bmlum415 Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 So I'm planning on getting a third dobyns but this time upgrading to the champ extreme instead of a champion, I'd be using this for pitching on the delta and local lakes around my area. So i was thinking a 7'4 med heavy rod with a full cork grip or should I do a split grip, do the grips make much of a difference? As well as mh or heavy. Not too long ago I got a champion 766 flip but that ended up turning into a punching rod so I want something to replace my Allstar.also what do you think about a lews tournament pro speed spools, are they worth the 200 or should I just get another bb1 Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted January 31, 2013 Super User Posted January 31, 2013 Dx 744. I bought 2 of them. Fantastic rod and the most versitle. Quote
BradGuenette Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 I have both the 744/745. The 744 has got to be the most versatile rod in the DX line up. I use it for t-rigged plastics. Depending on cover you may want to make the step up to the 745. I use the 745 for jigs. The grip is usually personal preference, although I find the full grip balances better with my tourney pros. Favorite reels I've fished are the TP's, all I can ask for and more, the weight savings alone was enough for me to make the choice. DX744 with a tourney pro is a dream to fish! Quote
flippin and pitchin Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 I would lean toward the 745DX. I prefer full rear grip when ever it is an option. Mine has a Tournament Pro. This model is one of my favorites and gets alot of use. It has numerous applications from jigs to A-rigs. You are on the right track for sure. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 31, 2013 Super User Posted January 31, 2013 I have the 794, with a full rear grip. I prefer having a full rear grip for this. It's just what I'm used to. As far as the rod goes, it's probably one of the nicest in my collection. Quote
BradGuenette Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Do you mean the 795? There isn't a 7'9" 4 power rod in the dobyns line up. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 31, 2013 Super User Posted January 31, 2013 You're right, it's a 744. I have that and a 745. My swimbait rod (custom) is 7'9", and the Dobyns are a little shorter. Posting by the seat of my pants, lol. Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted February 1, 2013 Super User Posted February 1, 2013 The extremes are great rods! To be honest I think they are sexiest rods on the market. You did not note the size of baits you will be tossing but You did mention the Delta which is a big fish lake and some nasty cover. I think you are spot on having your radar set on 744 and 745. Frankily I think the 745 would be close to your 766 rod. If it was me I would get the 744. It has a nice tip on it and plenty of power. It will be a really good rod baits between 1/4 - 5/8 oz baits. It can go higher but it excels there. If you think you will be tossing baits that are 1/2 oz on up the 745 would likely be the better choice. I don't know if you have a shimano curado 200 E series reel but they balance well and match the rod nicely. I prefer the split grips for bottom contact baits, plus the extremes use a checkered pattern on the split grip section of the blank which is pretty cool. If it was me I would get 744 split grip with a curado 200 E (off of eBay or wherever). Add your line of choice and you are set! Quote
bmlum415 Posted February 1, 2013 Author Posted February 1, 2013 The size bait I'd throw is 1/4-1/2 Quote
mnvp31 Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 Good info! I am also looking into buying a Dobyns Champion Extreme here in the next week. Been debating on either the 703 n 704 or 743 n 744. I understand that one rod doesn't cut out to do everything, but i am looking for this rod to be my main go-to rod, whether if i'm fishing from boat, canoe, or shore. I also plan to throw 1/4-1/2 oz jigs and trigs with this rod. So from reading some of the posts, i'm thinking the 744 would be the most versatile and be the one? There's no stores where i am that carries Dobyns, so any more info would help greatly help before i purchase. Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted March 15, 2013 Super User Posted March 15, 2013 Good info! I am also looking into buying a Dobyns Champion Extreme here in the next week. Been debating on either the 703 n 704 or 743 n 744. I understand that one rod doesn't cut out to do everything, but i am looking for this rod to be my main go-to rod, whether if i'm fishing from boat, canoe, or shore. I also plan to throw 1/4-1/2 oz jigs and trigs with this rod. So from reading some of the posts, i'm thinking the 744 would be the most versatile and be the one? There's no stores where i am that carries Dobyns, so any more info would help greatly help before i purchase. How heavy of cover are you typically fishing? Also you mention jigs and Texas rigs from 1/4 to 1/2 oz but do you need the rod to handle weightless plastics like fluke or senko style baits? I would steer you in the direction of 703, 743, or 744 depending upon cover. The 743 and 703 fish a bit different despite having the same power rating of 3. Typically the 743 is thought of as the ideal weightless plastic in the dobyns line up. The 703 is killer worm and jig rod under a 1/2 oz. This is what I use my 703 for. You may question the casting distance of a 7 foot rod but I tell you with xf tip it really sends jigs a good distance. The 744 is a good choice if the cover is heavier and if you think most baits will be closer to a 1/2 oz. All 3 would handle what you want just fine. I would match a rod like this up with curado 50e if you would like a reel suggestion. I tried several and settled on this reel for my 703. It would be hard to go wrong with the 744 for an "all purpose stick". The decision will likely depend upon type of cover fished, size of fish, and any personal preferences you have. Quote
mnvp31 Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 How heavy of cover are you typically fishing? Also you mention jigs and Texas rigs from 1/4 to 1/2 oz but do you need the rod to handle weightless plastics like fluke or senko style baits? I would steer you in the direction of 703, 743, or 744 depending upon cover. The 743 and 703 fish a bit different despite having the same power rating of 3. Typically the 743 is thought of as the ideal weightless plastic in the dobyns line up. The 703 is killer worm and jig rod under a 1/2 oz. This is what I use my 703 for. You may question the casting distance of a 7 foot rod but I tell you with xf tip it really sends jigs a good distance. The 744 is a good choice if the cover is heavier and if you think most baits will be closer to a 1/2 oz. All 3 would handle what you want just fine. I would match a rod like this up with curado 50e if you would like a reel suggestion. I tried several and settled on this reel for my 703. It would be hard to go wrong with the 744 for an "all purpose stick". The decision will likely depend upon type of cover fished, size of fish, and any personal preferences you have. Kickerfish1...i'm from the midwest, minnesota to be exact, so most of the lakes i fish are vegetated. I was debating on the Champion Extreme or the Cumara (7'2 MH/XF), but i heard so many good things about the Champion Extreme, so decided i'm gonna go with Dobyns. I have a Core 51mg7 that i would like to pair it up with, and plan to pick up another reel later this spring that i could match it with too. However, i never held a Dobyns, so i'm not too sure on how they feel, and if the 744 would be to stout or not. But looking at the lure weight, thats the one i been eyeing. So i'm just hoping the info i get on here would save me the time from buying and having to send the rod back to swap. Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted March 15, 2013 Super User Posted March 15, 2013 Both the cumara and champion extreme rods you considered are excellent. I have both and fish both very regularly. The core would look nicer on the cumara but it won't be an eyesoar on the dx series rods. I am quite familiar with Minnesota waters... cabbage weed, bull rushes, lilly pads, etc. I would say with 99% certainty that the 744 would be the best choice. The need to turn the fish from the cover or move them out of it would be the deciding factor for me. The balance, fit and finish, and sensitivity of the rod line is as good or better in its price point. The 744 would be my pick... now to determine full or split grip... Maybe a few others will weigh in but based upon the info given I would defidently go this way for the Minnesota 'football' shaped bass. Quote
bmlum415 Posted March 15, 2013 Author Posted March 15, 2013 Kickerfish1...i'm from the midwest, minnesota to be exact, so most of the lakes i fish are vegetated. I was debating on the Champion Extreme or the Cumara (7'2 MH/XF), but i heard so many good things about the Champion Extreme, so decided i'm gonna go with Dobyns. I have a Core 51mg7 that i would like to pair it up with, and plan to pick up another reel later this spring that i could match it with too. However, i never held a Dobyns, so i'm not too sure on how they feel, and if the 744 would be to stout or not. But looking at the lure weight, thats the one i been eyeing. So i'm just hoping the info i get on here would save me the time from buying and having to send the rod back to swap. hold a dobyns they're amazing, I have bought 3 champions, a champ extreme and a savvy this year, I like them significantly better than shimano crucial, st croix ltb, loomis rods besides the nrx,phenix rods and pretty much everything out there, I have a serious addiction to buying those rods and I have 5 of them and I'm only 15 Quote
mnvp31 Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 Both the cumara and champion extreme rods you considered are excellent. I have both and fish both very regularly. The core would look nicer on the cumara but it won't be an eyesoar on the dx series rods. I am quite familiar with Minnesota waters... cabbage weed, bull rushes, lilly pads, etc. I would say with 99% certainty that the 744 would be the best choice. The need to turn the fish from the cover or move them out of it would be the deciding factor for me. The balance, fit and finish, and sensitivity of the rod line is as good or better in its price point. The 744 would be my pick... now to determine full or split grip... Maybe a few others will weigh in but based upon the info given I would defidently go this way for the Minnesota 'football' shaped bass. Im thinking about split grip, but thanks for the info. I think the 744 might be the one. I just got a Powell Endurance 723 last month, and although its listed as a MH/XF, feels more like MH/F to me. So the Dobyns Champion Extreme 744 would probably best. However, maybe i might trade the Endurance in for the new Cumara 7'2 MH/F instead, and also get the Dobyns 744 to complete my arsenal. Quote
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