0119 Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 The worst thing about a split grip casting rod is different makers give you differing length rear grip. I love St Croix but they dont put enough grip there for me to comfortably cast. Shimano has also shortened the eva on the new Crucial, just not enough for me to comfortably cast. Quote
Super User Jigfishn10 Posted January 30, 2013 Super User Posted January 30, 2013 Early 90s. Here's a split grip from Berkley from then: I should have known you had a picture...you got a pic for everything...LOL Man, I hope we don't have a thread about Proctology...LMAO Thanks JF. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 30, 2013 Super User Posted January 30, 2013 I have a few "potty" shots. 3 Quote
Super User LgMouthGambler Posted January 30, 2013 Super User Posted January 30, 2013 Cork is way more expensive than EVA. Split vs Full, is all preference to each person. I like the split, I tend to grab the back grip upon long casts to help whip the rod. Quote
Maico1 Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 I was trying to keep brand names out of the question. Reason being I'malready battling the voices inside my noggin. I will tell you this tho. They will be used for cranking. I will purchase 2 rods. So in essence I'll save 80 to 100 bucks if I choose not to buy the split grip. I have been using S G for a couple of years now for my Jig and Worming and just nosed over for a couple of CrankBait rods myself. Only problem is there is still ice on the water so they have not been field tested, however I do like the feel of them. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 30, 2013 Super User Posted January 30, 2013 I have a few "potty" shots. Is this going to be your new Avatar ? If not, then can I use it ? A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User Hi Salenity Posted January 30, 2013 Super User Posted January 30, 2013 I have a few "potty" shots. My youngest used to call those "Mingos". LOL Do I see a new Avatar? By the way I sent Dobyns a message asking what grip was more expensive for them to make if they answer I'll post the reply 1 Quote
Maico1 Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 I have a few "potty" shots. You my friend have gone into the Hard Deck and to think of Wild Bill with his SeaGull thing....... Quote
Super User Jigfishn10 Posted January 30, 2013 Super User Posted January 30, 2013 I have a few "potty" shots. Yeah, and I'm not well...LOL...most peeps have rubber duckys, where the H3LL did you get that! Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 What do you get for your $40-50? Is it truely just another grip? You'll want to look at the Blank, reel seat & guides. A lot of the rods with one pice grips are built heavier as in 1 pice reel seats and several double footed large size guides that add bulk and weight to the rod X2 - There are undoutedly other differences between the rods being compared. As for performance difference is negligible if any - totally a preference in the end. Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted January 30, 2013 Super User Posted January 30, 2013 The worst thing about a split grip casting rod is different makers give you differing length rear grip. I love St Croix but they dont put enough grip there for me to comfortably cast. Shimano has also shortened the eva on the new Crucial, just not enough for me to comfortably cast. You think the front grip on the new Crucial and Compre models is short? Divide that length in half and you have the new Cumara "A". This might be the only Cumara A that I buy...because of the grip. Not only the short front grip, but the overall grip length (front to rear) is too long (for me). Quote
mnbassman23 Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 The butt effects balance and comes into play when casting and leveraged retrieve, like when you havea fish on. However, since your hand(s) is always on or near the reel, there is no correlation with sensitivity. I have a few split grips and the main attribute is "bling". Split grips look modern and cool! Exactly! I really think most people buy them because its the new "Fad".. Somewhat similar to whats happening with micro guides in the past few years, they are becoming more in demand as people hear about them and pro's push them.. These day's it seems harder to come buy a full grip rod than a split grip.. Companies are flooding the market with split grip rods, and therefor people buy them and they become more popular..I am not to hyped up on split grips, to me there is no real benefit. That said I have split grip rods and enjoy fishing them, but they are nothing special. Just my .2 cents Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 I would pay an extra $40 or $50 for a full grip, which are becoming harder and harder to find. It is just a personal preference. Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted January 30, 2013 Super User Posted January 30, 2013 IMO, split grip rods should cost less than identical full grip rods. They do when I build them. Quote
Super User .RM. Posted January 30, 2013 Super User Posted January 30, 2013 Can you elaborate on how having an exposed blank behind the reel adds to an increase in sensitivity? I just can't figure out how that would work. As I stated on my custom spinning rods because I also use a split seat configuration. I also stated.. these are on custom rods, in the rack rod world (store bought) I would say the only thing you are getting for the extra $$$ is the weight reduction.... No rod mfg takes the time to build in the sensativity like custom... Tight Lines! Quote
PondBoss Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Ill never buy another rod thats not a split grip +1 Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted January 31, 2013 Super User Posted January 31, 2013 Not sure if a sg costs significantly more or less to manufacture when materials are bought in volume at wholesale, then massed produced. I don't think my local rod builder could build an identical rod for the same cost as a major manufacturer. The MSRP is not always based on cost but sometimes on popularity and may work on a higher margin if the public is thirsty for an item. Quote
0119 Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 I doubt the cost of the few extra inches of cork out weighs the cost of the 2 extra winding checks, the epoxy finish to cover the now exposed blank and any thread used. Its just fashion like having a 11bb, 8:1to1 ratio, 24lb drag reel to walk the dog and catch a 3lb fish. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 31, 2013 Super User Posted January 31, 2013 Aluminum winding checks are $1-5. AAAA Grade cork is $2.50/inch. Quote
BradGuenette Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 The main reason I went with Dobyns extremes over Loomis GLX's. I'm not a fan of split grip at all, I find they do not balanced correctly. I believe Dobyns is the only company that gives you the choice of either split/full grip. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted January 31, 2013 Super User Posted January 31, 2013 John... Didn't Mitchell have a spit-grip rod that pre-dates the Berkley rod? Why not save the 80.00 and remove the cork yourself? oe Quote
0119 Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Your not finding AAAA grade cork on 90+% of the rods on the market. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 31, 2013 Super User Posted January 31, 2013 0119, it's a $10 difference between the split and full grip on a Dobyns. They use quality cork - no graining or divits - and all things being equal, the full grip costs more. Three custom rod builders said it costs more. Even cheap cork is a buck an inch - check the prices on Mudhole: http://www.mudhole.com/Rod-Building/Cork-Rings. Those little winding checks are cheap. So, you can form your opinion based on the facts, or not. Sometimes I think you just like to say the opposite for the sake of debate. OE, you might be right. I know that there were several split grips before my Accuflex. Many mid-level rods went to EVA. At the time, a disease was the blame for the cork shortage, and considering that a "high end" rod at the time was about $120-150, adding $20 to the bottom line was a big chunk out of profit margins. I know I struggled to find good rods with cork grips, under $100. I think that's about the time I started fishing Fenwicks, and later Team All Stars. Quote
thehooligan Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 When i got back into serious fishing a few years back my first rod i bought was a st croix triumph with the full cork grip. I really dont mind the full grip, but i fell for the light weight/aesthetics thing and have only bought split grips since. Shimano cumulus/cumara are still my favorite grips though..... Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted January 31, 2013 Super User Posted January 31, 2013 Wish i could get good cork for $2.50/inch! Last CG-1 cork i bought was over $5/inch.......and that was 3 years ago. Haven't been able to find any that nice since. Quote
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