TriCityBassin' Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 I fish a lake that has a lot of cypress, grass, blowdowns and just generally nasty cover. In this lake, i have never.....ever......EVER caught a bass on a jig. I have hooked pickerel and bowfin but never a bass. Could the impoundment possibly not have crayfish? (I seriously doubt it...not possible) i have not been able to easily find crayfish to check the colors as this is text book swamp. Have any of you run across lakes where the bass won't bite jigs? Do you think i can make a change to make jigs work? I know the lake has HUGE bass in it. 1 Quote
Super User Sam Posted January 29, 2013 Super User Posted January 29, 2013 TriCity, where you fishing???? The Vulcan ponds outside of Colonial Heights??? If you PM the name of the lake you are fishing I may be of some help. We fish the big lakes and rivers with jigs and do well. The fishing can be slow and you need rocky points to have the most success, but flipping and pitching jigs is a staple in Virginia waters. You may also be correct in stating that there may not be any crawfish in the pond. However, bass will still hit a jig even if there are no crawfish in the waters. Have you tried a swimming jig that mimics a bluegill? This summer try those jigs again. You may be surprised what you can catch on them. 4 Quote
Shewillbemine Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Important question: do you catch bass using jigs at OTHER lakes? 5 Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted January 29, 2013 Super User Posted January 29, 2013 A jig is going to catch just about anything, I wouldn't give up on using it, I've caught bass with or without trailers. Sometimes ya just gotta think out of the box, I don't always have a bass jig, I don't stampede out to my local tackle shop, I improvise. I may use a bucktail with a creature trailer or worm, maybe no trailer at all. I've taken a kingfish skirt (I put a 1/8 or 1/4 egg weight, the skirt covers it) then tie on a hook and used a trailer, works just fine. Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted January 29, 2013 Super User Posted January 29, 2013 Don't give up. It sounds like you are not working it the way the fish want to see it. Keep working on it and change your presentation. When I started fishing jigs it took me eight months to catch my first bass. Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted January 29, 2013 Super User Posted January 29, 2013 I fish a lake that has a lot of cypress, grass, blowdowns and just generally nasty cover. In this lake, i have never.....ever......EVER caught a bass on a jig. I have hooked pickerel and bowfin but never a bass. Could the impoundment possibly not have crayfish? (I seriously doubt it...not possible) i have not been able to easily find crayfish to check the colors as this is text book swamp. Have any of you run across lakes where the bass won't bite jigs? Do you think i can make a change to make jigs work? I know the lake has HUGE bass in it. Generally you won't find bass where the Pickerel are, they are much more aggressive and more dominate fish than the Bass, location of where you are using the Jig may be of some fault, however the presentation you are using must be working if other species are picking the jig up, you may just need to keep looking for other areas the Bass actually dominate. The structure of this lake will be better to search than the shallow cover if Pickerel are abundant. Quote
aharris Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 ever tried a football head in deeper water? Fish some ledges and creek channels and you'll probably break that streak. 1 Quote
Jig Meister Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Crayfish or not, bass will eat jigs. I have a little little local pond where I live that I will fish when I do not have time to get out the kayak. There is nothing but mud on the bottom, some vegetation and zero crayfish. But guess what, those bass love jigs! I would guess you are either fishing them in a way that is not productive for your waters, the colors are off, or you are not locating the bass. I have always been of the school that slower is better when you are fishing a jig, if you dont get hit on the drop, then shake and move it along slowly, sometimes I just dead stick it and let the skirt do the job, even on the hardest of fishing days jigs will produce. 1 Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted January 29, 2013 Super User Posted January 29, 2013 At my family's lake house in Wisconsin I have caught bass on jigs for years. Up until August of last year, I was under the impression that there were no crayfish in the lake.......until I hooked up a bass on a frog and when I landed it, it spit up a whole crayfish, freshly eaten. Nice bright red one too. Either someone was using crayfish as bait or they are there, always have been, but I just have never seen them. Regardless of their presence, the jig isn't just to mimic a crayfish. It can be anything. Try using a swim jig...slow roll it through weeds. You're bound to hook up on a bass at some point. Or you can use an arkie style jig and skip it under some docks or fallen timber if you have it. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted January 29, 2013 Global Moderator Posted January 29, 2013 You may try a finesse jig or play with the colors more. Jigs will catch bass anywhere they swim, crawdads or not. I've seen times where you had to drag a football jig really slowly and basically it couldn't lose contact with the bottom or they wouldn't touch it. One lake I fish they love jigs, but you have to have a mismatched jig and trailer, usually a craw color jig with a black and blue trailer. No idea why, just the way they are. Another lake it has to be a finesse jig and it has to be hopped fairly quickly along the bottom. Jigs will catch fish in your lake, just going to have to put all the pieces of the puzzle together and figure them out. I'm willing to bet it will be very worth it when you do! Quote
TriCityBassin' Posted January 29, 2013 Author Posted January 29, 2013 Important question: do you catch bass using jigs at OTHER lakes? Yes, all the time. They are a staple of mine when fishing the bigger tidal rivers here and lakes like John H. Kerr. I consider myself skilled with them (not a pro, but i hold my own). I am fishing in a lake, not a pond. Roughly 700 surface acres (i think). I have used swim jigs in Sexy Shad....only caught pike on those as well. Typically I do very well on Bass in this lake and my staple is a 7.5" Culprit, finesse worm, spinnerbait or topwater. I am trying to get a bigger bite with the jig. The lake is basically swamp, some deep areas but not a lot of structure..sharp breaks into creek channels, etc. Absolutely no rock as it is on the eastern coastal plain, all sand and mud. Points are looong..and slow tapering not what you see in bigger impoundments. I have used them on brush on deep drop banks, cypress bases, laydowns and docks (which are few on this lake.) One thing i have not tried is red. I don't see many red crayfish around here. I mostly stay with black/blue or pumpkin/pb&J. None of you have had a body of water that they would not hit a jig in? That is shocking. Here is a link for info. http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/fishing/waterbodies/display.asp?id=36 Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted January 29, 2013 Super User Posted January 29, 2013 It's getting to be that time of year, why have you not tried red? Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 29, 2013 Super User Posted January 29, 2013 What size and type of jig are you fishing with and what size and type of trailer? What color worm works best at this small lake? Jigs are not my first choice in areas that have shallow sloping mud bottoms, unless there is some isolated breaks with cover. What is the water color and depth of light? Are you casting the jig or pitching? Tom 1 Quote
keith71 Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Yes, all the time. They are a staple of mine when fishing the bigger tidal rivers here and lakes like John H. Kerr. I consider myself skilled with them (not a pro, but i hold my own). I am fishing in a lake, not a pond. Roughly 700 surface acres (i think). I have used swim jigs in Sexy Shad....only caught pike on those as well. Typically I do very well on Bass in this lake and my staple is a 7.5" Culprit, finesse worm, spinnerbait or topwater. I am trying to get a bigger bite with the jig. The lake is basically swamp, some deep areas but not a lot of structure..sharp breaks into creek channels, etc. Absolutely no rock as it is on the eastern coastal plain, all sand and mud. Points are looong..and slow tapering not what you see in bigger impoundments. I have used them on brush on deep drop banks, cypress bases, laydowns and docks (which are few on this lake.) One thing i have not tried is red. I don't see many red crayfish around here. I mostly stay with black/blue or pumpkin/pb&J. None of you have had a body of water that they would not hit a jig in? That is shocking. Here is a link for info. http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/fishing/waterbodies/display.asp?id=36 I grew up fishing Cahoon and the surrounding Suffolk lakes.Im not an expert but I have caught them on Black and Blue jigs there.Junebug colored jigs work great there as well.I havent fished there in awhile but I remember using light jigs 1/4 ounce 5/16.Keep on jiggin brother.PM me for more info if you like. Quote
RODNEY Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 While I'm no expert I would think that jigs work everywhere. Have you tried different retrieves, different weights and colors. If you're moving it slowly, try speeding it up, try crawling the jig instead of hopping it or the other way around. Do different things with it until you find what works. Rodney Quote
Super User Teal Posted January 29, 2013 Super User Posted January 29, 2013 TriCityBassin, the next your are down here on Kerr or Gaston, give me a shout. Ill show you how to work a jig. J/k buddy. Just keep focused on on finding the fish. Sounds like you may need to change ssomething. Just keep hammering away at it until something happens. You keep finding the fish and they will eventually bite the jig. And no, ive never fished a lake or pond that i couldnt get a jig bite. Alot of times its the only thing i can get bit on. But seriously, next time u fish gaston or kerr, pm me ahead of time and i can give you a heads up on what the deal is down here. Good luck to ya bro 2 Quote
11justin22 Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 I have a local lake that I have caught very few bass on a jig and I fish a jig a lot. Have caught a few swimming it though. Quote
merc1997 Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 jigs catch bass anywhere. you might just need to change the profile and size of the jig you are using. if you are using a rubber skirted jig, you might need to use one with more or even less rubber in the skirt. skirt length can make a difference too. hair jigs still catch bass even though they have fell out of favor with most bassers. a bucktail jig with a pork trailer is still deadly. i think tom mentioned that bodies of water with smooth mud bottoms are not to condusive to jig fishing. that has been my experience also. i will say that an 1/8oz jig with white bucktail will catch a bass in about any environment. bo 1 Quote
Clash City Rocker Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Main bass forage in my favorite lake is bluegill and I caught my PB swimming a bluegill colored jig w/craw trailer. Jigs can immitate baitfish too! Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 29, 2013 Super User Posted January 29, 2013 jigs catch bass anywhere. you might just need to change the profile and size of the jig you are using. if you are using a rubber skirted jig, you might need to use one with more or even less rubber in the skirt. skirt length can make a difference too. hair jigs still catch bass even though they have fell out of favor with most bassers. a bucktail jig with a pork trailer is still deadly. i think tom mentioned that bodies of water with smooth mud bottoms are not to condusive to jig fishing. that has been my experience also. i will say that an 1/8oz jig with white bucktail will catch a bass in about any environment.boBo, just waiting to get a few questions answered before guessing what hasn't worked. Lighter weight jigs are a good suggestion, unless he is already using them?I did read his attachment and this lake has a lot of predators competing for baitfish; pickerel, crappie, some walleyes, red ears and LMB, it didn't mention what bait fish are in the lake? My guess this angler may relate to the shore cover and needs to look outside and fish the deeper breaks during the day and fish at night more. Tom 2 Quote
panda_slicks86 Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 i think bass are just wired to hit certian baits regardless of how much they have the oppertunity to see em...... craws,lizards....ect.... some times when jigs with craw trailers dont work i just use a jig head ( football ) and a craw trailer some times they dont like the skirt. Quote
TriCityBassin' Posted January 30, 2013 Author Posted January 30, 2013 It's getting to be that time of year, why have you not tried red? Hahahaha....I haven't been out yet. LOL VaBass official Tournaments start in March. I have been committing my time to rigging up, taking inventory, buying E21 Flipping sticks and trying to get that new Skeeter!!!! I will be using it on Gaston, no worries! 1 Quote
TriCityBassin' Posted January 30, 2013 Author Posted January 30, 2013 What size and type of jig are you fishing with and what size and type of trailer?What color worm works best at this small lake? Jigs are not my first choice in areas that have shallow sloping mud bottoms, unless there is some isolated breaks with cover. What is the water color and depth of light? Are you casting the jig or pitching? Tom I am using a 3/8 and a finesse 5/16 with one of the Zoom chunks (speed craw, flappin' craw or chunk) on the 3/8 and a split tail zipper grub on the finesse jig. Best worm in this lake is a Grape slider or a Red Shad 7.5" Culprit. I don't usually factor in structure breaks as there is no lack of "crawfish" cover/habitat in the Va. waterways. Hurricane debris, sunken quarry barges, cypress, tidal debris and it is the east coast so you have to fish TRASH (tires, blocks, old cars, lawn mowers, etc lol). Water is what is known as "tannic". It is a common occurrence in swamps, makes it look somewhat tea colored. Odd as it has "color" but is still great visibility. Light penetraion is good imo. I am predominantly pitching with some flippin' mixed in when in heavy cypress. Thanks Tom Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted January 30, 2013 Super User Posted January 30, 2013 Hahahaha....I haven't been out yet. LOLVaBass official Tournaments start in March. I have been committing my time to rigging up, taking inventory, buying E21 Flipping sticks and trying to get that new Skeeter!!!! I will be using it on Gaston, no worries! LOL !! Glad to see you caught the humor in that post. Have you tried any of the structure in that body of water, in my original post I thought you may have been tossing the jig where the more prodominate species were taking up house, if you know there are big bass in there and I know that you do, I was wondering if you tried targeting some of the more prodominate structure the bass like to be around, I know you know how to fish a jig, but do you think you may be simply using it in the wrong areas? 1 Quote
Shaky Head Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 I fish a small lake in north Alabama that is the same way. This is a clear lake with depths to 56 ft. Its only about 200 acres. I have fished jigs for years with not a bite. This winter, I decided to try it again and I am consistently taking fish in tree tops that are 6-12 ft deep, and some way up under docks. I love jig fishing and sometimes you just gotta put the jig in almost impossible places to get bit. Good luck, they are there if you can just coax them into eating your jig. 1 Quote
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