Super User Gatorbassman Posted January 29, 2013 Super User Posted January 29, 2013 No disrespect but I checked and at least one is sponsored by Seaguar so have to take it as pimp of the product to some degree. It would be nice if a person connected with a product would acknowledge the fact in their post. Please note that it has never been against the policies of Bass Resource for a sponsored angler to answer questions about their sponsors product. We have always allowed it. If they would have come here and started a thread about Seaguar then we would have to have a talk with them. Thanks for your response guys. I have been looking for a new braid and was wondering about Kazen. 3 Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted January 29, 2013 Super User Posted January 29, 2013 Ihave been looking for a new braid and was wondering about Kazen. I'm going to buy some next week to try. Id love hearing what you have to say about it Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted January 29, 2013 Super User Posted January 29, 2013 JF with Kanzen, specifically, Ive noticed that it is helpful to bump up in diameter, although not completely necessary. It does perform a little more one would expect in those diameters, which will help with casting and presentations. I am currently fishing it in 60, 40, and 30. Though I am not an elite series angler, so you may find a differing opinion. Quote
thehooligan Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 I love the 10/2 power pro, but ill give the seaguar a shot next time im at dicks. The seaguar is 8/2, 10/3, 15/4, ill have to figure out what size to try... Quote
Super User Sam Posted January 29, 2013 Super User Posted January 29, 2013 First time I ever heard of Mark Menendez was at a Bassmaster University program in 2003 in Richmond, Virginia. He was FANTASTIC! An outstanding ambassador for bass fishing and B.A.S.S. Ever since then I have followed his career; while he was ill; and his dog, Barkley. To say the least, I was very glad to see him back on the trail once again. I have some DVDs featuring Mark and it is a pleasure to watch and listen to what he has to say. I am thinking of taking my grandog fishing with me like Mark takes Barkley. However, with my grandog being an Austrailan Shepard he has the tendency of jumping out of the boat. If Mark says Kazan is the best braid then I would try Kazan. And yes, some guys will love it and others will not. That is what makes this Forum a great place to share ideas and opinions. I usually don't use braid but may try my luck with it in the Virginia waters this year. Wonderful having Mark and the other Elite pros with us. We can learn a lot from them and I sincerely hope they continue to post. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 29, 2013 Super User Posted January 29, 2013 JF with Kanzen, specifically, Ive noticed that it is helpful to bump up in diameter, although not completely necessary. It does perform a little more one would expect in those diameters, which will help with casting and presentations. I am currently fishing it in 60, 40, and 30. Though I am not an elite series angler, so you may find a differing opinion. I suspect our fishing is similar. Thanks for the info, man. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 29, 2013 Super User Posted January 29, 2013 No disrespect but I checked and at least one is sponsored by Seaguar so have to take it as pimp of the product to some degree. It would be nice if a person connected with a product would acknowledge the fact in their post. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth. Where else can you have access to several Elite series pros? Instead of immediately bashing them, why not try giving them the benefit of the doubt, and take the opportunity to gain some of their knowledge by asking questions. 8 Quote
Topwaterspook Posted January 29, 2013 Author Posted January 29, 2013 After hearing from fellas much more knowlegeable than myself, I'm going to give Kazen a try. Thanks, Mark and Carson. I got to thinking about what J Franco said about negative posts. There's nothing to stop someone from bashing a product if they've an axe to grind. My wife told me that she has heard of this type behavior on the internet. Thanks to all for your input. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 29, 2013 Super User Posted January 29, 2013 My wife told me that she has heard of this type behavior on the internet. What? How can this be? I have never heard of such a thing! Quote
TriCityBassin' Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 I read this post and just have to say....this is the BEST site for bass fishing! I love Bassresource!!! Quote
scrutch Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 Thanks to the pros for chiming in. Your input is very welcome and carries a lot of weight. And ya never know, the pros just might pick something up here that they have never heard of. Nobody knows everything. And think, some of you guys just might indirectly contribute to an elite series win! Quote
K Hawk Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 I've been using Seaguar's Kanzen 40lb braid this winter on Guntersville fishing lipless crankbaits in the grass and have been really impressed with it. It's smooth and supple, so it casts extremely well. Definitely one of the better braided lines I've used. Kevin Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted January 31, 2013 Super User Posted January 31, 2013 I've been using Seaguar's Kanzen 40lb braid this winter on Guntersville fishing lipless crankbaits in the grass and have been really impressed with it. It's smooth and supple, so it casts extremely well. Definitely one of the better braided lines I've used. Kevin I use Spiderwire a lot, mostly 30# for that 8# diameter, the trouble that I have is fade, I think it's actually the coating that starts to wear but the line itself remains strong, if you were to compare how would the Spiderwire differ from Kanzen in your opinion. Quote
K Hawk Posted February 1, 2013 Posted February 1, 2013 I use Spiderwire a lot, mostly 30# for that 8# diameter, the trouble that I have is fade, I think it's actually the coating that starts to wear but the line itself remains strong, if you were to compare how would the Spiderwire differ from Kanzen in your opinion. Every brand of braid I've fished with over the years fades to some degree over time. As a habit, I take a sharpie and color alternating sections of line (spaced out every few inches) up the line about 5 feet to help camouflage the fading and the line. That way you can retie a few times before having to break out the sharpie again. Not sure if this actually helps, but I have confidence doing it. Both Spiderwire Ultracast and Kanzen are super high quality braids. I like the fact that Kanzen comes in 80lb test where Ultracast maxes out at 65lb I believe. I haven't had an opportunity to fish Kanzen in anything other than 40 lb test so far, but will be using them all shortly. As I get some more water time with the other sizes I'll check back in with my thoughts. 2 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted February 1, 2013 Super User Posted February 1, 2013 Thanks. we look forward to hearing from you soon. Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted February 1, 2013 Super User Posted February 1, 2013 Every brand of braid I've fished with over the years fades to some degree over time. As a habit, I take a sharpie and color alternating sections of line (spaced out every few inches) up the line about 5 feet to help camouflage the fading and the line. That way you can retie a few times before having to break out the sharpie again. Not sure if this actually helps, but I have confidence doing it. Both Spiderwire Ultracast and Kanzen are super high quality braids. I like the fact that Kanzen comes in 80lb test where Ultracast maxes out at 65lb I believe. I haven't had an opportunity to fish Kanzen in anything other than 40 lb test so far, but will be using them all shortly. As I get some more water time with the other sizes I'll check back in with my thoughts. I have not seen it in anything higher than 65# so I think your assumption is correct, I have not tried coloring the line yet, I have heard that it helps, but the smell of the sharpie I think has been in the back of my mind as to why I have not attempted to try such a thing, your confidence in doing so will help me give it a try, but it's like other things as well, you just have to get past the smell, LOL !!! I really appreciate the time you have taken to answer my question, welcome to the forum and I look forward to hearing more of what you have to offer in the future. Good luck and be safe !!! Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted February 5, 2013 Super User Posted February 5, 2013 Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth. Where else can you have access to several Elite series pros? Instead of immediately bashing them, why not try giving them the benefit of the doubt, and take the opportunity to gain some of their knowledge by asking questions. No bashing at all. Just 4-5 posts read like ads for Seaguar, its their 1st post, so checked some them out and sure enough they are in association with Seaguar. They state just what I would expect them to state about a product they are in partnership with. I dont know any of them, dont follow the tournament scene, I have nothing against the brand/product at all. Im interested in the product thats why I read the thread to begin with. Just not influenced buy sponsored recommendations. I see this no differently than going into BPS hearing KVD say how great BPS Fluoro is give it a try. He is doing what is expected. Same view as the OP in this thread http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/112698-pro-credibility/ 1 Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted February 5, 2013 Super User Posted February 5, 2013 No disrespect but I checked and at least one is sponsored by Seaguar so have to take it as pimp of the product to some degree. It would be nice if a person connected with a product would acknowledge the fact in their post. This was your post, I mean no disrespect to you either, but it seems that you were to quick to judge imo, if you were to go back and look at the posts that, Menendez, Carson, Hawk, and Green, put out for us, every one of them said they have used it for some time, imo, they have offered advise on the line from their perspective, not one of them said you need to go out and purchace this product, there was a lot of insite from people who use and abuse this product on a daily basis and other lines as well that they are not affiliated with and mearly offered and informed opinion on what they know to be true when comparing different lines, I saw no pimping as you put it. Quote
Shoop05 Posted February 6, 2013 Posted February 6, 2013 Welcome to BR! Im looking forward to your guidance and knowledge!!! I am relatively new to BR myself, but I love being able to talk about anything pertaining to bass fishing at any time of the day! Quote
ClackerBuzz Posted February 7, 2013 Posted February 7, 2013 Quake is spot on. But I don’t blame these guys one bit. Every man needs to do a job to put food on the table. I do think it is disrespectful to come down on quake for voicing his opinion. Acting like 5 guys aren’t suddenly showing up to do product damage control is insulting. They are grown men doing their job. They aren’t made of glass…there is no need to defend them or require members to treat them with kid gloves. Let the conversation run its course. Maybe they will address some of the reviews. I’ve read the ink in the line bleeds. Guys ended up with it in their gear and boat carpet. Maybe that was the 1 or 2nd generation? Also that the heavier line is superior but the 10lb has a tendency to snap in a backlash—so maybe keep it off ur baitcaster’s and on spinning gear only? And yes, welcome to the forums guys. Glad to have ya. 1 Quote
Super User Teal Posted February 7, 2013 Super User Posted February 7, 2013 Super cool to have those guys on here! I love hearing their input and i dont take into account who they are sponsered by because IM GONNA DO MY HOMEWORK AND USE MY OWN GOOD JUDGEMENT ALSO. Id rather hear their input (sponser motivated or not) than most of the guys that hang out at my tackle shop all day. Im really happy to have Mark, Kevin and all the elite guys here. Their experience on the water can be very valueable in this forum. I appreciate them for posting their opinions. As to the original post, seaguar has won my trsut so far with their fluoros, so the next time i see some on sale, im will probably try some. Quote
K Hawk Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 I've been fishing the Kanzen braid a lot since my last post in late Jan and wanted to give you some more feedback on it. I use 15lb and 20lb on all my spinning reels with a fluoro leader for all my drop shot, shaky head and wacky rig presentations. I like the thin diameter and the way it lays and comes off the spool. Knot strength is great too...make sure to use the modified albright knot when joining your leader. I pitched and flipped a Texas rigged Senko around all week on 60lb at Falcon Lake in March and it performed flawlessly. I was fishing in everything from brush to large diameter hardwood trees and it held up great. I used the same spool all week. I throw my topwater (buzzbaits and walking baits) on 50lb. I attach a short mono leader when fishing walking baits. Like the smaller tests it casts great. Love the no stretch factor when topwater fishing. All in all the Kanzen braid is super solid based on my experience with it and I personally wouldn't use it or recommend it to any of you if I didn't feel like it was a high quality braid that you'd like fishing with. 2 Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted April 12, 2013 Super User Posted April 12, 2013 Thanks for the updated review Kevin, and please continue to poke your head in here sometimes! Jeff Quote
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