Line Size..braid On Spinning Gear

[War Eagle 44]

@ War Eagle to put it tactfully the fish was lost due to user error.  I do like that lip propulsion feature, however my freshwater reels don't have it.  Any spinning reel will handle braid, it's how the line is loaded up, braid ready reels is a selling feature, it doesn't really matter if the reel is " ready" or not.  I always put tape on the spool before putting the line on, this alleviates any problem.  It's ok to have your drag on the tight side, especially with plastics.  Tight doesn't mean locked down it means slightly tight, after a few fish you'll have the right feeling on how to set it where it's best for you.  I probably do this more for bass fishing than any other species because I'm pulling them out of cover, I do not tighten the drag instead I grab the spool and just pull the fish out, that way I always have a tight line and pressure on the fish.

 

I've been fishing for 12 years so I know how to properly set my drag and spool my reels. I wish I were close to you so I could show you that this particular reel is horrible with braid. It doesn't matter how you spool it on it still gets wind knots. Some people might think the propulsion lip is just a gimmick but it's not, it works. I'm also not saying that all reels have to have this feature in order to handle braid well, but the reel I'm referring to isn't one of them.

 

I already admitted that it was more than likely my fault for the breakage. I know you've probably been fishing many more years than me and know more about it than I do, I just wanted to say I didn't start fishing last week, I know a little. It seems like you are just dismissing any info that I've given on the grounds that I must be a moron and don't know what I'm talking about.

 

No disrespect meant to you at all, like I said I'm sure you know more about fishing than me, I just wanted to make the point that I'm not a beginner and I do know a little about what I'm doing.      

[new2BC4bass]

I don't use a superline that has a smaller diameter than the lighest nylon mono I would use. I don't buy superlines based on their rated strength for spinning gear.

 

The very small diameter superlines have no shock strength so the 6# mono diameter equivelent superlines are what I use of ulta light and light rigs and the 8# mono diameter equivelent superlines for med to med heavy rigs.

 

Most of my spinning rigs have 40# Daiwa Samurai or Saltiga. A couple have 30# Dawia Samurai.

 

 

Never really stopped to think about superlines not having shock strength.  I have straightened out a jig hook with the 30# Fireline I have on a MH spinning rod with a steady pull.  However, I have also snapped off a new 1/2 oz. jig on a cast with the same setup when the line caught around the tip.  I have 10# 832 (4# dia) on a 7'2" Light Fast designated for 4-8# line and 1/32-5/16 oz. lures.  I went 832 instead of PP because PP has a 2# dim equivalent....kind of small for my old eyes.  Only got to use it a couple times last year after getting the rod/reel.  A person wouldn't think that it is possible to snap a lure off on this rod.  Seems like it would be too limber to snap off a lure.  I'd be interested in knowing if anyone else has ever done so on this or a comparable rod/line combination.

 

Currently have only 3 baitcasters with braid, 55# Samurai, 40# Sufix Performance and an unknown braid on the 3rd, tho I'm guessing it might be 65# PP.  That will be coming off so I can try 20# on this particular reel since it was designed for braid.  My brother-in-law uses nothing but 40# PP on all his reels which happen to all be spinning reels.  His reels are all in the 2500/3000 size.  I've never really noticed a disadvantage with the 40#.  Just the opposite since we are almost always fishing in some pretty heavy slop.

[Loop_Dad]

Like I said it was more than likely my fault because the line had gone through a bunch of wind knots prior to breaking. The spinning reel I was using at the time didn't handle braid well at all. I've since switched to a spinning reel with the propulsion lip design and I've not had another wind knot. I also had the drag pretty tight because there's some ok size bass in this pond and I've had trouble getting good hooksets on them in the past.

I caught this one on a spinning reel as you can see with 20# PP and a 15# P-Line fluoro leader on a NetBait T-Mac.

 

BTW, War Eagle 44, Kudos for you for having your fish on your lap to take the picture, in stead of putting it on the dirt. I bring a net with me even when I fish from bank to land bigger fish easier / safer and have some place to put a fish while unhooking, picture taking etc.

[War Eagle 44]

LDad2, thank you for that. I should probably give your idea some thought and look into better ways to handle the fish I catch. I never want to injure them or stress them anymore than I have to, I like to watch them swim away just like I did with the fish in the pic.

[Wayne P.]

Never really stopped to think about superlines not having shock strength.  I have straightened out a jig hook with the 30# Fireline I have on a MH spinning rod with a steady pull.  However, I have also snapped off a new 1/2 oz. jig on a cast with the same setup when the line caught around the tip.  I have 10# 832 (4# dia) on a 7'2" Light Fast designated for 4-8# line and 1/32-5/16 oz. lures.  I went 832 instead of PP because PP has a 2# dim equivalent....kind of small for my old eyes.  Only got to use it a couple times last year after getting the rod/reel.  A person wouldn't think that it is possible to snap a lure off on this rod.  Seems like it would be too limber to snap off a lure.  I'd be interested in knowing if anyone else has ever done so on this or a comparable rod/line combination.

 

Currently have only 3 baitcasters with braid, 55# Samurai, 40# Sufix Performance and an unknown braid on the 3rd, tho I'm guessing it might be 65# PP.  That will be coming off so I can try 20# on this particular reel since it was designed for braid.  My brother-in-law uses nothing but 40# PP on all his reels which happen to all be spinning reels.  His reels are all in the 2500/3000 size.  I've never really noticed a disadvantage with the 40#.  Just the opposite since we are almost always fishing in some pretty heavy slop.

 

If you want to experience what shock strength is all about, use an umbrella rig on a baitcaster with any superline less than 65# test and get a backlash. I use 80# superline for that presentation--been-there-done-that.

[JigMe]

20lb PowerPro for spinning gears, and I will use leader if fishing clear water. But mostly, just straight braid and never seem to have any issues. 

[craww]

Never had any issues w/15 or 20lb and feel anything beyond that's overkill on a spinning rig.  Ive never had much issue with breaking due to lack of stretch as I let the drag do its job and don't get cute with big fish up close.  Braid does have poor abrasion Ive found with certain types of cover, but when it comes to the wood, soft vegetation, smooth river rock that I fish... it does great.