29JMP29 Posted January 18, 2013 Posted January 18, 2013 I've been looking for a rod to throw shaky heads, drop shots, and mainly tubes with. I fish a lot of shallow rivers for smallmouth and dont know whether to go with a medium or medium-light rod. I will probably be throwing mostly 1/8 oz. stuff for all three, anybody have any idea what I should go with? Know any good finesse rods around $100? Thanks for the help. Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted January 18, 2013 Super User Posted January 18, 2013 For mostly 1/8 oz, I'd be using ML, and perhaps even L, especially if you were talking about a spinning rod. If you were talking baitcasting, then the lightest power BC rod you can find along with a BC reel capable of tossing that light of weight. There have been lots of threads about $100 rods - search a bit and you'll find them. There are lots of very nice rods available for $100 nowadays. Quote
endless Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 I use a spinning 6'8 M-XF Carbonlite for shaky heads. But I don't know anything about the Johnny Morris series of Carbonlite? Quote
Super User Darren. Posted January 19, 2013 Super User Posted January 19, 2013 Shimano compre, current model stops at M, but the warranty is tops. I finesse with previous gen compres in M/XF and love em for weightless plastics down to a Zoom Tiny Fluke, a #4 Gammy finesse wide gap hook... Works great. Buddy has a 6'6" St. Croix Premier in ML that he absolutely loves. You could go either way and be fine.... Quote
29JMP29 Posted January 19, 2013 Author Posted January 19, 2013 Shimano compre, current model stops at M, but the warranty is tops.I finesse with previous gen compres in M/XF and love em for weightless plastics down to a Zoom Tiny Fluke, a #4 Gammy finesse wide gap hook... Works great. Buddy has a 6'6" St. Croix Premier in ML that he absolutely loves. You could go either way and be fine.... Yeah I've been looking at the St. Croix. I have a Triumph that I use for crappie and I really like it. Ill look at the compre. Thanks for the ideas. Quote
Super User Darren. Posted January 19, 2013 Super User Posted January 19, 2013 I need to correct myself. The models of Compre that BPS carries stops at M power. The "Bass" series goes down to M. http://fish.shimano.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/index/products/rods/Compre_Family/Compre_Bass_Spinning_Worm.html But the standard "spinning" drops down to ML. http://fish.shimano.com/publish/content/global_fish/en/us/index/products/rods/Compre_Family/Compre_Spinning.html Either way, I still say you're good-to-go with a M or ML. Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 19, 2013 Super User Posted January 19, 2013 The simple truth is; no standard for rod strength or action exists. Rod makers that rate strength in numbers are a little more accurate between brands. Are you looking for a spinning or bait casting rod? Tom Quote
29JMP29 Posted January 19, 2013 Author Posted January 19, 2013 The simple truth is; no standard for rod strength or action exists. Rod makers that rate strength in numbers are a little more accurate between brands. Are you looking for a spinning or bait casting rod?Tom Finesse, so definitely spinning. Quote
Super User Raul Posted January 19, 2013 Super User Posted January 19, 2013 I own both, for that weight ( 1/8 oz ) both are fine, but which one I choose for that weight depends a lot on what type and density of cover I´m going to fish, little weed cover and no wood ---> ML & 6 lb test, some wood and more weed cover ---> M & 8-10 lb test. For less than a 100 dollars Shimano Clarus would be my choice. Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 19, 2013 Super User Posted January 19, 2013 Finesse, so definitely spinning.2 power is generally close to medium light, 3 power for medium. Most bass rods are fast action and appropriate. I fish with 3 power spinning rods for general use application with 6 to 8 line and lures from 3/32 to 1/4 pz. 2 power bass rod is marginal for most presentations, good for drop shot.The $100 budget limits quality guides, reel seats and warranty. The Shimao rods are a good choice, as they tend to be a little slower action and under powered; there medium is usually about 2 1/2 power, which maybe ideal for what you are looking for. Tom . Quote
29JMP29 Posted January 19, 2013 Author Posted January 19, 2013 Thanks for your help everybody. Leaning towards a medium light Quote
ClackerBuzz Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 i bought a 6'8" ML for those purposes and wish I had bought a 7'2-7'6" from the start. You can achieve such a greater distance with less effort. And can throw 1/16th oz or even lighter if needed. Now i'm going thru the process of selling it and buy a 7'6". Just some food for thought Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted January 19, 2013 Super User Posted January 19, 2013 The simple truth is; no standard for rod strength or action exists. Rod makers that rate strength in numbers are a little more accurate between brands. Are you looking for a spinning or bait casting rod?Tom Once again I think WRB is ahead of the pack. Just have to find a manufacturer that makes what you like, I do not give specific brand recommendations. I personally would be looking for a rod that fishes best in the waters I mostly frequent, I'd be leaning to a weak med, or strong ml, depending on how the manufacturer made it. Quote
skeletor6 Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 The simple truth is; no standard for rod strength or action exists. Rod makers that rate strength in numbers are a little more accurate between brands. Are you looking for a spinning or bait casting rod?Tom Yes, each company arbitrarily assigns power and action ratings at their own will. There are deviances even within a companies own rod lineups as to what to what a medium power or fast action is. So if you can its always best to get your hands on a rod and test it for yourself or gather as much information as possible from peoples experiences to get an idea of how a rod fishes. Don't just look at medium or medium light in terms of absolutes. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted January 19, 2013 Super User Posted January 19, 2013 I purchased a ML Villain for duty as a panfish rod. Rating is 1/8-1/2 oz. To me the 1/8 is the only thing making it a ML as my Medium Falcons run 1/4-1/2 oz. I figured being a spinning rod that 1/16 oz. would be no problem. Wrong! Not even with 10 lb. braid. Rod just won't load at that light. I wound up getting a Fenwick 7'2" River Runner rated for 1/32-5/16 oz. This puts your 1/8 lure right in the middle. It does a decent job casting lighter lures (How far do you think you should be able to cast a 1/16 oz. lure? Haha.). I can't comment on its power once a fish is hooked because I went fishless both times I had it out last year. Going fishless locally is a too often occurrence for me. Florida is looking better all the time! Quote
skeletor6 Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 I 2nd those fenwick rods for finesse fishing. I think the elite tech smallmouths are a great value, very light and sensitive. The ML/F and M/XF spinning versions. Quote
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