Broke bass fisherman Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 Was wondering if anyone had any experience with hi point firearms, specifically the 9 mm, looking into investing in one for home defense and hoping some of you have used them. I know they are inexpensive but are the cheap? Also I don't really want to get into the caliber discussion and home defense. I know a lot of opinions are out there and they are all good points but, I am looking at a 9mm specifically for the recoil and the fact that this would be the weapon both me and the wife would fire. I would much rather her, and me for that matter, be able to have confidence in hitting the target. Quote
Super User Hi Salenity Posted January 6, 2013 Super User Posted January 6, 2013 They are the Zebco 33 of guns 1 Quote
Broke bass fisherman Posted January 6, 2013 Author Posted January 6, 2013 They are the Zebco 33 of guns So they will work for a good bit, as long as you care for them, then you upgrade to something better? Or they are cheap crap that will break quickly and you have to replace them all the time. Because depending who you ask about the 33's the answer will drastically change. Quote
Super User Hi Salenity Posted January 6, 2013 Super User Posted January 6, 2013 ^^^ yep^^^ LOL Â Â It shouldn't break on you but I'd want to put a lot of rounds through it to make sure it's 100% reliable . NOTHING else is acceptable! And make sure it cycles your preferred home defense ammo and not just your cheep target ammo. Quote
Super User Teal Posted January 6, 2013 Super User Posted January 6, 2013 Broke bass, save your money. I have seen too many failures from those firearms. What is the cost of the firearm that you are looking at? There are some quality pistols out there in the 400+ range. Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted January 6, 2013 Super User Posted January 6, 2013 Don't trust the lives of your wife and yourself to a firearm of questionable reliability. Hi-Point guns are good for going to the range and shooting holes in paper. But when you need to trust your life to something make sure it is something that is reliable.  I suggest either Glock or Sig Sauer. Quote
Super User Teal Posted January 6, 2013 Super User Posted January 6, 2013 Springfield Armory, Smith & Wesson, Ruger, Glock, Sig, Beretta and Taurus are all trusted weapons. I'm really impartial to the Springfield xd's and the smith and Wesson M&P. they are really dependable pistols that you can obtain for less than 500. The rest of the makers are listed are all awesome. Quote
nick76 Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 If you are looking for home defense there are more reliable guns on the market. You could look at a kel-tec if you still want cheap and a little more reliable. I would probably spend the extra $100-200 and upgrade to something a whole lot more reliable. I love my Ruger SR9c. Both the wife and I each carry one. I also am a fan of the LC9, though it kicks a little harder. If you are looking for a home defense and are open, look at a wheel gun, plenty on the market and very reliable. On a side note, I know people who have had problems with Hi-Point, Taurus, and Kel-tec when getting factory service done. I had an issue with a cam block pin for my SR9c.7 days including shipping and it was as good as new. Ruger paid for everything and an American answered the phone at 8pm. Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted January 6, 2013 Super User Posted January 6, 2013 I had one. It was the first pistol I bought when I turned 21. Â I had quite a few instances of stove piping and FTF using both practice ammo and the "real" stuff. As others have mentioned, save up for something more reliable. Â I've had good experiences with my Taurus pistols. I have a PT140 (wife's), a PT145 (mine) and a TCP PT 738 (pocket gun). They really like to eat up the WInchester PDX1 Defender rounds which are a great protection option. Quote
Crappiebasser Posted January 6, 2013 Posted January 6, 2013 They aren't horrible but I wouldn't bet my life on one firing twice. As mentioned the stove piping issue is common. If you want a cheap, reliable home defense go with a revolver or shotgun. Quote
Broke bass fisherman Posted January 7, 2013 Author Posted January 7, 2013 Thanks for the feedback guys. Looks like I will be saving up a little longer than thought. Quote
Super User Bassn Blvd Posted January 7, 2013 Super User Posted January 7, 2013 Let's go over this. You want something cheap/inexpensive to PROTECT you and your family's LIFE? You want to buy CHEAP and later upgrade?  If my gun is the ONLY thing standing between living and dying, then I dont think I would want to settle on the Zebco 33 of guns. Quote
Broke bass fisherman Posted January 7, 2013 Author Posted January 7, 2013 Let's go over this. You want something cheap/inexpensive to PROTECT you and your family's LIFE? You want to buy CHEAP and later upgrade?If my gun is the ONLY thing standing between living and dying, then I dont think I would want to settle on the Zebco 33 of guns. That I understand. The problem is what I can afford at the moment. Which is why I am asking if they are any good. I have spent the last 5-6 weeks researching firearms and I have heard good and bad about Hi-Point. I came here to try and see if I could get any more clarification and guidance. I am simply trying to find as much information as I can about this specific line of firearms so I can make the right decision for my family and me. Quote
nick76 Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 Just a suggestion, ask around.....you may find a friend or family member who is willing to part ways with a pistol that would do you just fine for less money. A used gun is no less for defense than a new gun. Just ask questions about it before you buy it. They should be honest about how well it shoots. Quote
Broke bass fisherman Posted January 7, 2013 Author Posted January 7, 2013 Just a suggestion, ask around.....you may find a friend or family member who is willing to part ways with a pistol that would do you just fine for less money. A used gun is no less for defense than a new gun. Just ask questions about it before you buy it. They should be honest about how well it shoots. Thanks, unfortunately other than a brother in law, not a lot of gun owners in our families. The reason I am asking about the Hi-point is because it is what my brother in law has an I have had a chance to fire it. Put 40 some rounds on target with no issues but, the concerns I have seen are enough to make me second guess them. I will keep digging. Thank you all for your help. Quote
Super User SPEEDBEAD. Posted January 7, 2013 Super User Posted January 7, 2013 Confidence in the firearm you are shooting cannot be understated. Â Same as fishing equipment/lures, but with much more important consequences. Quote
nick76 Posted January 7, 2013 Posted January 7, 2013 Let's look at this from a different perspective. Not everyone on here is in the financial situation to afford a $1000 gun and the difference of a few hundred dollars may be a lot. If the Hi-Point is what you can afford now and you have been saving to get such a weapon at that price point for quite a while, then why not. If you think that adding a couple of hundred dollars to that purchase price may put you out another year or two from purchasing then it might be a great investment at this time. Who knows, your financial situation could change tomorrow and you may be able to add another weapon of even nicer quality. I do however want you to consider the cost of purchasing practice rounds and a small supply of defense rounds. For practice rounds you can get the cheap stuff if you can find it and if your gun will shoot it. You should put a 1000 rounds each through that gun between your wife and you as a minimum. You need to understand how that feels and how you react to it. You need to find the limit for your wife and yourself and get very comfortable with it. Between the courses you should take, the rounds you will need and the weapon itself you can easily rack up a $500-$750 bill. Right now is an expensive time to purchase, demand is high and supply is dwindling. Just another perspective. Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted January 7, 2013 Super User Posted January 7, 2013 To hell with the gun. Drop 200 on a chainsaw!!! I used to keep one by my bed, until my wife made me stop before my son was born. Nothing will scare the bejesus out of a intruder more then that ominous crank, crank, Rrrrrrrrrnnnnnnn. Id sooner face down a gun than a chainsaw. Cause you can bet, that chainsaws gonna hurt a heck of a lot more than a bullet. Its a psychological defense system. Quote
preach4bass Posted January 8, 2013 Posted January 8, 2013 I have a different oppinion of Hi-Point than most here. I've actually owned one (a .45). It was accurate and reliable. I've shot a lot of the "nicer" guns, and they are smoother, but the Hi-Point will fire when you pull the trigger and it was more accurate than some of the high-dollar fancy name brands I've shot.  Here are the negatives: It's big, heavy, and ugly. It's so big and heavy that if you got in a bad situation and you ran out of ammunition or the gun jammed, you could just throw it and it would still be a deadly weapon!  I bought the Hi-Point a few years ago because it was what I could afford.  I figured a cheap gun had a better chance of protecting my famly than no gun. Since then, I traded it in (for about the same price I paid for it) and bought a Kel-Tec .380 that fits nicely into my pocket. I didn't have anything against the Hi-Point other than the fact that it was too big to fit into my pocket.  Good luck, and good shooting! Quote
RyneB Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 I have fired a hi point .380 and 9mm. The 9mm and the .380 had no problems at all. And have seen friends and other people at the range shooting the .40 and .45 and they have nothing but troubles. A friend of a friend purchased a .40 and has sent it back 2 different times. My brother in law bought his wife a Hi-Point 9mm to practice with before getting her a Colt 1911. I have not seen it jam once. It isnt the best feeling, looking, or mechanically smooth gun, but it always went bang. Would i trust my families safety on a High Point? only if it was my ONLY option. But id take a chainsaw lol Quote
BassResource.com Advertiser FD. Posted January 20, 2013 BassResource.com Advertiser Posted January 20, 2013 I fired a Hi Point 9 out of a rental fleet while I was on a similar search to yours a few months ago. I eventually decided against the Hi Point but  I put about 100 rounds through one and thought it shot OK.  I would say this about it.  It is a basic, no frills, close range, personal defense weapon, and nothing else.  It is not fun to shoot, it is not overly accurate, it is not light or sleek looking.  But if you need something to go BANG in the dark for not a lot of money, it will do.  That being said, I offer this advice:  1)  As with most things, you usually get what you pay for.  I would suggest that if you can, wait and upgrade to the  Ruger P95 or Smith SD9 VE.  These are both much higher quality handguns for under $400.  2)  If you can't wait, buy a 20 gauge pump shot gun.  The pumping action says everything that needs to be said in the dark.  Your wife will be more accurate with it in a crisis situation.  And it is harder to shoot yourself by accident with it. Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted January 22, 2013 Super User Posted January 22, 2013 I have fired a hi point .380 and 9mm. The 9mm and the .380 had no problems at all. And have seen friends and other people at the range shooting the .40 and .45 and they have nothing but troubles. A friend of a friend purchased a .40 and has sent it back 2 different times. My brother in law bought his wife a Hi-Point 9mm to practice with before getting her a Colt 1911. I have not seen it jam once. It isnt the best feeling, looking, or mechanically smooth gun, but it always went bang. Would i trust my families safety on a High Point? only if it was my ONLY option. But id take a chainsaw lol Finally someone with some good taste in home defense. Im telling you nothing says "wrong house buddy" quite like a motorized tree destroyer. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted January 22, 2013 Super User Posted January 22, 2013 My Father-in-law has one that has worked fine in limited use with both ball and HP ammo. it doesn't shoot too bad. It is heavy and ugly and I would buy one in a minute if I didn't have the money for something better. My local guy has sold a bunch of them, with very few issues. HI-point will repair or replace them for life-a better warranty than any other as far as I know.  I considered buying one a few years ago, but ended up buying a Ruger SR9c instead. The Ruger was about double the price, but I do not regret spending the extra. A Hi-Point pistol is like a cheap baitcast reel, it won't be as fun to use as a good quality one but it will get the job done and is a lot better than nothing.  Good luck. Quote
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