The next "big thing"

[Garry2Rs]

What if you could fish with braided line, and attach a leader of mono or Fluoro without a knot?

Would it look something like this?

Supposing that you tied a nail knot on top of the splice for safety's sake, could it still be smaller than any line to line knot?

Suppose that you could make a loop at the end of your line...without a knot

Now if you also made a knotless leader, that also had a loop on the rod end,

could you join them together loop-to-loop for quick changes out on the water?

What if under tension the connection almost disappeared?

What if after a break-off etc. your line could have a new section spliced on?

Now what if all of these these connections were at 100% line strength?

Is this just science-fiction or could it really be the next "Big Thing"

[A-Jay]

I'm guessing reality. Is that Power Pro's new Hollow Ace line spliced with the needle (from the guy on the West Coast) that could put 12 to 15 pound fluoro inside this PP 40# test ?

I'm not sure if this is going to be the next big thing, but I am very interested and would certainly appreciate any and all information you'd be willing to share.

A-Jay

[kikstand454]

ive been back on here for twenty four hours and this is the 3rd "post" that was actually a marketer trying to stir up hype.

its shady and it makes me sick.

great idea though!!! lol

[fourbizz]

Theyve been doing it in the salt out here for years. I'm not interested.

[Stasher1]

I don't see anything new there. That kind of stuff has been done for quite a while now in the fly fishing world.

[Garry2Rs]

There was no commercial intent here. I wrote my post as a series of questions because I thought you might enjoy a change of pace from the usual, Police Report..."Just the facts Mame"

Yes AJ that's exactly what it is.

I bought the yellow Hollow Ace in 40 pound and a threading needle. I sealed the knot with Jerry Brown's glue, BUT according to the directions it is only for undyed white Spectra...we will see.

The fluoro is 15 pound Seaguar. It's been too windy for me to fish, but I was out in the yard tossing it around and it goes through the guides without a sound!

I know this is all old hat to Saltwater guys, but I just found out about it last year. However, at that time people told me that it was only for line of 80 pound and up...

This year I ran across Brett from Northwest Topshots and he told me about the new Hollow Ace and supplied me with a super small threading needle. This Power Pro line is still hard to find, but I got a spool from a shop in San Diego. It threads easily.

Brett kept talking about loop-to-loop leaders, and it does make sense to be able to change leaders quickly on the water. But L-2-L meant thick joints banging through the guides to me...So my heart was set on just top-shoting a leader straight into my main line. That was until I tried one of these knotless loop-to-loops! I will be using L-2-L on musky this summer and will use both styles for bass.

I will keep you posted...grin.

The white line used for the loop is Hollow Tuff-Line, the greenish blue is Jerry Brown Hollow one.

Garry2rs

[J Francho]

This stuff is great, but really its no great gain over a simple Alberto knot that can be easily tied on the water.

[b.Lee]

Yeah I saw a video of this, the idea is like a Chinese Finger Trap thing.

[SDoolittle]

I don't see anything new there. That kind of stuff has been done for quite a while now in the fly fishing world.

That's what I was thinking.

[roadwarrior]

I can't tell whether this thread is meant

to be promotional or not, but either way

it doesn't seem effective based on member

response.

We'll leave it up with a reminder: Advertising

is not allowed unless you are a BR sponsor.

-Kent  a.k.a. roadwarrior

Global Moderator

[A-Jay]

Different strokes for different folks.

I would at least like to try it out. Unless something new comes out, I will Never go back to fishing with reels full of anything but some kind of braid. The days of fishing with a elastic band are gone. With few exceptions, I'm throwing some kind of leader. I am not a fan of having the leader knot clicking it's way through the guides. I like trying new stuff. If nothing else, it gives me another option.

I did this type of spice on a larger scale years ago while offshore trolling with high test Dacron line and mono top shot. I'm confident that it does have an effective application, at least for me. Getting the line seems easy enough but location one of those little needles to splice with sounds challenging.

A-Jay

[A-Jay]

I was incorrect. Took ten minutes and I found what I'll need to give it a go.

Thanks again Garry2Rs

A-Jay

[Paul Roberts]

I was introduced to a knot-less splice in fly-fishing a while back that simply used a pointed and roughened leader butt inserted into the end of a fly-line using Krazy Glue -the only glue strong enough at the time apparently. This was used for saltwater fishing.

I tried it and caught some stripers and blues and freshwater LMs doing it but didn't really trust it for the long haul. And it was nearly as labor intensive as tying a nail knot -once you got used to tying them.

The loop-to-loop is not new, and you still have to tie at least a surgeon's loop in your mono or FC leader.

So...what's the advantage? Not a challenge, just wondering.

[Bobby Uhrig]

Listen for the last time-DOZER AND I are the only ones allowed to cause havok on this site

[Big Bait Fishing]

i was put off by this because , as many remember , Bantam 1 toted this as power pro coming out with a 16 strand braid but in fact it was this , a hollow braid used for knotless leaders . well i for one wouldn't like to have to do this in a boat or even from the shore while on a day of fishing , this is more of a salt water application that is trying to be touted as good for freshwater applications , seems like power pro is pushing it , yeah literally  :

[Deleted account]

This stuff is great, but really its no great gain over a simple Alberto knot that can be easily tied on the water.

Please tell me that's not a "crazy" knot.

[kikstand454]

i appologize if this was not a marketing attempt.

meanwhile... im not sure of wheather i even NEED a leader on my braid.

i mean... if im worried about clarity, im throwing hybrid or flouro anyway.... so........

[Big Bait Fishing]

This stuff is great, but really its no great gain over a simple Alberto knot that can be easily tied on the water.

Please tell me that's not a "crazy" knot.

yes , it was named after "crazy" Alberto Knie ...