Quillback Posted January 24, 2013 Posted January 24, 2013 I'm a little surprised Martens did not join in on the dock dinkfest. I would think he could have done well fishing a shaky head or a Senko around the docks. Quote
PondBoss Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 I don't think Denny was breaking his rods on purpose. True they do get their gear for free, but you could plainly see that he was trying to not let the fish hit the carpet. That is the second person I have seen break a rod because of that rule. As for stepping on his rods, well he's got 10 on the deck and he's not exactly a primed athlete. Quote
grampa1114 Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 And for 63 years old, he's still doing pretty well.....Go old man. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted January 25, 2013 Super User Posted January 25, 2013 Kills me how rough Pros are on their gear, Brauer was breaking rods, and stomping all over them. Must be nice to get that stuff for free. Makes you want to run right out and by one of there used boats don't it............LOL. Quote
gripnrip Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 I'm a little surprised Martens did not join in on the dock dinkfest. I would think he could have done well fishing a shaky head or a Senko around the docks. He was trying a dropshot in the first round. It didn't work. Then he went to a shaky head I think and started catching fish. In the second round, If I heard him rite, he said he wanted to go to the pilings for something different. That didn't work out and the sudden death killed him. Quote
gripnrip Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 Makes you want to run right out and by one of there used boats don't it............LOL. The ol' saying comes to mind. If you buy a used boat it just means throw another thousand at it! Well in that case it would be throw a few more thousand! I do know that guys in the lower ranks of tournaments have to purchase a boat out of their own pockets. Skeeter for example, requires them to purchase a new boat every 2 or 3 years. Those guys take care of them so that way they can get more out of the resale. I would still be leery tho! Quote
lizardcaster Posted January 25, 2013 Posted January 25, 2013 A Jay , you probably right.......I had one that look just like it (cant remember brand) and it was horrible, you could weigh a fish twice and be 1/2 pound difference ,LOL, and it was much cheaper than those.. I bet the guys griped about the "guessing" that went on with the bogas. The more I watch, the more GOOOD $$$$$ I would pay Ike to teach me to skip like that, I swear that man HAS TO BE the best skipper known to man. totally amazing(to me at least) I Second that. Amazing. Love to watch this on tv and even the EXTENDED CAST. I got money off by entering BSSN because I am a subscriber. Even without the discount the EXTENDED CAST is amazing coverage and more tips than you can remember! Quote
Comfortably Numb Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 I will have to check out the Extended Cast. Does it tell more about what they are throwing? Saw Denny do a flipping/pitching demo years ago. It was pretty amazing. Quote
PondBoss Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 Total shocker that someone advances without meeting the cut weight. Pretty bummed though that it was more of the same with pitching docks. A couple of guys tried to fish out, but couldn't make it work enough. Now that the table is set who do you like to win? Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 I didn't see it yet, but I heard that Hackney caught a monster smallmouth off one of the docks. Is this true? Quote
38 Super Fan Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 I didn't see it yet, but I heard that Hackney caught a monster smallmouth off one of the docks. Is this true? Yep.... 6lb 14oz I think? Quote
PondBoss Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 it was a toad, and he flipped it in the boat. No carpet on the landing. lol Quote
prjavelin Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 I ignored the last couple posts because I think they are talking about the latest episode and I wont see it until friday. So far a couple of you have been bummed that they are only fishing one kind of thing. say docks in this one, in the first cup it was mostly jerk bait fishing that won the tournament. I see it this way, I need to learn everything in bass fishing so I got the chance to learn a lot of different things about jerkbaits and the alabama rig and they also talked a lot about locating fish in open water. It was and awesome learning experience and Ive watched a couple of the episodes two and even 3 times just to watch where and how they retrieve the lures. This time around we have a bunch of the best pitch/flip fishermans in the world. You get to see their techniques, where they put the baits, how they retrieve them, their presentation, adjustments, everything!!! everything!!!!! If this cup is not a dock fishing seminar for you guys, you need to rewatch and rewatch again and youll find the info you need. BTW there are no docks in PR so I wont be able to try those techniques. maybe when the levels rise I can skip under trees. Im hooked with jerkbaits I even ordered a MCStick LOL Quote
SudburyBasser Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 He was trying a dropshot in the first round. It didn't work. Then he went to a shaky head I think and started catching fish. In the second round, If I heard him rite, he said he wanted to go to the pilings for something different. That didn't work out and the sudden death killed him. As much as Aaron Martins annoyed me with the whining, I do have to give him credit for trying something different with the pilings. Unfortunately it didn't work out so good for him though on the face of it it was a reasonably sound strategy. Heck, I might have done the same. Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Yep.... 6lb 14oz I think? Well, I just watched it and it just didn't look like a 6 lb. 14 oz. Smallmouth. It was big, no doubt, but almost a 7 pounder is hard to believe (though, they never did show a good angle on the fish). Quote
PondBoss Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Well, I just watched it and it just didn't look like a 6 lb. 14 oz. Smallmouth. It was big, no doubt, but almost a 7 pounder is hard to believe (though, they never did show a good angle on the fish). Did I just hear conspiracy? Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Did I just hear conspiracy? Haha...no, but when that episode comes out in the extended cast, I will be analyzing that fish pretty closely. I also have that exact same scale they are using and if you don't hold it perfectly vertical before it zero's, you can add an easy 6 or 7 ounces to the weight. Again, I am not saying that is what happened here, but for someone to catch a 6 lb. 14 oz. Smallmouth on a body of water that is not the Great Lakes or in Tennessee to me is a HUGE fish and they didn't seem to make too much of a big deal about it, except for Greg Hackney's little spastic move of excitement (I have a feeling Greg wanted to go Ike at that moment, but since he criticized Mike in episode 1 for acting like an idiot, I think Greg restrained himself). Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted January 30, 2013 Super User Posted January 30, 2013 Well, I just watched it and it just didn't look like a 6 lb. 14 oz. Smallmouth. It was big, no doubt, but almost a 7 pounder is hard to believe (though, they never did show a good angle on the fish). Thats the way WNY grows them. Short and thick. A good portion of my 5-6 lb fish barely crack 20 inches in length, but are as big around as they are long, and they are usually stuffed to the gills with some kind of forage. What suprised me more, is the low weights on some of the fish that just made the 12" keeper mark. In my lake, it's not uncommen to see 12"-13" fish that are pushing 2lbs, we don't get many "keepers" that are under a pound. Quote
gripnrip Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Thats the way WNY grows them. Short and thick. A good portion of my 5-6 lb fish barely crack 20 inches in length, but are as big around as they are long, and they are usually stuffed to the gills with some kind of forage. What suprised me more, is the low weights on some of the fish that just made the 12" keeper mark. In my lake, it's not uncommen to see 12"-13" fish that are pushing 2lbs, we don't get many "keepers" that are under a pound.IMO there have been fish that should have been measured that weren't. Seems like being close doesn't only count in horse shoes and hand grenades in MLF. Quote
PondBoss Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Through out the whole show they have been talking about that lake being a huge small mouth lake. The few that have been caught have all been big. I think the smallest one that has been weighed was just over 2lbs. Would have been nuts if someone had found a school and cracked the wright limit in 10 casts. Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Thats the way WNY grows them. Short and thick. A good portion of my 5-6 lb fish barely crack 20 inches in length, but are as big around as they are long, and they are usually stuffed to the gills with some kind of forage. What suprised me more, is the low weights on some of the fish that just made the 12" keeper mark. In my lake, it's not uncommen to see 12"-13" fish that are pushing 2lbs, we don't get many "keepers" that are under a pound. I fish Chautauqua several times a year and many more times on Erie as well, and there are some fat stout fish out of those places. I guess that was my point. From the side view of the fish, he didn't seem to have that "thick" stout look I am used to seing out of an Erie fish. Again, I am sure that was the true weight, but those fish are pretty rare. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted January 30, 2013 Super User Posted January 30, 2013 I fish Chautauqua several times a year and many more times on Erie as well, and there are some fat stout fish out of those places. I guess that was my point. From the side view of the fish, he didn't seem to have that "thick" stout look I am used to seing out of an Erie fish. Again, I am sure that was the true weight, but those fish are pretty rare. Whats even more rare.........maybe not to Chautauqua........but on the lakes I fish, is to yank a big smallmouth out from under a dock in the middle of summer in pea soup water. I can count on one hand the number of smallies I have caught under docks in those conditions, and still have a finger or two free. Now out off the bank in the grass it's a different matter, or under a dock with some moderate depth under them, but even Hackney said that fish was in a foot of water. That is something I don't see too often, not counting the spring. Those big alge blooms cause major oxygen issues out in deep water, and it's pretty normal to see fish, even in the warmest water of the year, at a time when water levels are low, to be hugging the bank, or suspend high up in the water collum over deep water, near the surface, where the wind and waves oxygenate the water. I have seen thick,lush, bass holding milfoil beds in 7-12 FOW completely die off in the middle of summer due to lack of light penitration from a bloom. Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted January 30, 2013 Posted January 30, 2013 Whats even more rare.........maybe not to Chautauqua........but on the lakes I fish, is to yank a big smallmouth out from under a dock in the middle of summer in pea soup water. I can count on one hand the number of smallies I have caught under docks in those conditions, and still have a finger or two free. Now out off the bank in the grass it's a different matter, or under a dock with some moderate depth under them, but even Hackney said that fish was in a foot of water. That is something I don't see too often, not counting the spring. Those big alge blooms cause major oxygen issues out in deep water, and it's pretty normal to see fish, even in the warmest water of the year, at a time when water levels are low, to be hugging the bank, or suspend high up in the water collum over deep water, near the surface, where the wind and waves oxygenate the water. I have seen thick,lush, bass holding milfoil beds in 7-12 FOW completely die off in the middle of summer due to lack of light penitration from a bloom. And for it to be almost a 7 pounder is just unheard of. I bet he would have a better chance of winning the lottery than doing that again. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 30, 2013 Super User Posted January 30, 2013 And for it to be almost a 7 pounder is just unheard of. I bet he would have a better chance of winning the lottery than doing that again. Yup - there's only one way to put it - That fish was really lost . . . . A-Jay Quote
grampa1114 Posted January 31, 2013 Posted January 31, 2013 IMO there have been fish that should have been measured that weren't. Seems like being close doesn't only count in horse shoes and hand grenades in MLF. I tend to agree...some of those 'eyeball' keepers that weighed in at 11-12 oz were suspect...I thought that the refs might have asked for a remeasure on some of them. JMHO Quote
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