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I recently got a crankbait specific rod and reel. I was leaning toward seagaur invisx but am hearing nothin but good about the yozuri hybrid for 10 bucks cheaper. Anyone use either or both and have an opinion?

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I have used YZH a bunch and it is great line. I used the 10lb on my CB rod and loved it.

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I too really like the yozuri hybrid...I have the 10 lb spooled on several rods. very good line, especially for the price.

 

I have never fished with the invisx so I can not comment on it.

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YoZuri is ok for me. I like it on Baitcaster but not on Spinning gear but maybe my test was to high.

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I recently got a crankbait specific rod and reel. I was leaning toward seagaur invisx but am hearing nothin but good about the yozuri hybrid for 10 bucks cheaper. Anyone use either or both and have an opinion?

 

I was in the same boat as you on these two, but the overwhelming positive reviews from members on this site made me go with the Yozuri Hybrid.  I was also able to find a 1lb (5800 yards) spool of 10# in smoke color for about $30, so that pretty much sealed the deal for me.

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I would get the invisix personally... unless you have interests in throwing topwaters with this outfit.

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Yo Zuri is one of my favorite lines. I have reels with 8 lb and some with 10 or 12 lb test. It's a great line and even have it as a leader to by braided line. I've tried others but this is my favorite by far!

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^^ SD jam and ordinary clinch both work well for me with most lines, including the Y-Z hybrid. I use the 15 lb for small swimbaits.

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I vote for 6# on spinning gear and 12# on baitcasting. Anything higher than the 6# on spinning gear and I don't care for it. I've only been using it maybe 6 months but I like it so far. I'm going to spool up almost all my reels with only hybrid when spring comes around because I think it's a good all around line for most applications and it's inexpensive too.

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Tie your favorite knot, Hybrid doesn't require anything special

I generally tie single hooks with a Palomar Knot; treble hook

lures with a Pitzen Knot.

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Yo-Zuri with a palomar knot.  I've never had any issues.

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I have used both the Seaguar and the Yozuri Hybrid on crankbait techniques.  I like both of them.

 

The Invisix was 15# and I found it supple, cast well, and was great for fishing in stump/log ridden areas that I fish. 

 

I bought the Yozuri Hybrid in 10# because of great reviews and could get 600yds for $10 shipped.  I spooled several reels with this and am well pleased.  It performed well in the wood also.

 

All in all, I think for cranking, I didn't need the "invisible" factor of the Seaguar.  On a worm or jig perhaps, yes.  But not on the crank.  And the price on the Yozuri was unbeatable!

 

    The ONLY critical remark on the Yozuri was that it was a little "stiff" at times and had a bit of "memory."  Both those issues did not bother the crankbait technique.

As I write this, I'll be ordering a 600 yard spool of 8# Yozuri for $9.95 shipped.  Can't beat that!

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I wouldn't reccomend Seaguar Line any more. I've had too many bad spools, and it has longevity issues. For around the same price Shooter Sniper is a far superior line, not quite as supple (limp), but much stronger.

 

Yo-Zuri I feel for the price is decent line, unless you're fishing gin clear water with jigs or soft plastics then I would use a 100% fluoro line. IMO avoid the Yo-Zuri soft it is terrible.

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I wouldn't reccomend Seaguar Line any more. I've had too many bad spools, and it has longevity issues. For around the same price Shooter Sniper is a far superior line, not quite as supple (limp), but much stronger.

Yo-Zuri I feel for the price is decent line, unless you're fishing gin clear water with jigs or soft plastics then I would use a 100% fluoro line. IMO avoid the Yo-Zuri soft it is terrible.

I have been fishing seaguar floro lines for going on 3 years. I have NEVER had issues of longevity with any of their lines. I log many hours and fish with their products and have yet to get a bad spool of line. Last year I almost exclusively fished their lines for 80% of what I do. The reels were spooled in the spring and the line was still in perfect shape prior to me removing the line to have the reels sent in for their annual cleaning.

I will agree than sunline's premium floro lines are more sensitive but are no where near as manageable or long lasting.

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I wouldn't reccomend Seaguar Line any more. I've had too many bad spools, and it has longevity issues. For around the same price Shooter Sniper is a far superior line, not quite as supple (limp), but much stronger.

 

Yo-Zuri I feel for the price is decent line, unless you're fishing gin clear water with jigs or soft plastics then I would use a 100% fluoro line. IMO avoid the Yo-Zuri soft it is terrible.

May I ask why you find Yo-Zuri soft  terrible. I just got a 600 yd. spool of it.

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May I ask why you find Yo-Zuri soft  terrible. I just got a 600 yd. spool of it.

It's weak and doesn't have good abrasion resistance or tensile strength. You can basically go to any website that sells it and read the reviews 3/4's of them will be very negative. T*ckle warehouse use to sell it, and there were approx 12 reviews and I think all but one were negative.

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I have been fishing seaguar floro lines for going on 3 years. I have NEVER had issues of longevity with any of their lines. I log many hours and fish with their products and have yet to get a bad spool of line. Last year I almost exclusively fished their lines for 80% of what I do. The reels were spooled in the spring and the line was still in perfect shape prior to me removing the line to have the reels sent in for their annual cleaning.

I will agree than sunline's premium floro lines are more sensitive but are no where near as manageable or long lasting.

That's cool you've had good luck...I have purchased multiple spools that would break on every hookset regardless of knot used, and I've fished spools that were good. BTW I sent in three of the "bad" spools and Seaguar called me back, don't remember the guy's name but he is a manager in there, and admitted that every batch was defective. fwiw believe me or not I don't care that's up to you.

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Seems like line is one area that there is never agreement. However, many of the folks on this board give good marks to YZ.  Is it the best line for all applications. Nope.  But it's a good jack-of-all-trades line that works good enough to suit most uses. AND, as mentioned, it is very cost effective.  Some of us on the board took advantage of the deal on YZ Ultrasoft from The Longfin. - $25 for 1lb spools.

 

I am committed to Ultrasoft for the next few years, having purchased 15 MILES of line:

 

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Does UltraSoft work?  Well, I fish mostly open water, some rock ledges, a little slop, not much timber.  It works well enough to bring in 1407 fish in the last couple seasons - up to 9.5 pound bass and 48 pound carp.  Strong enough for my purposes...

 

YMMV

 

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I have purchased all of my seaguar line spools from TW and THUT and never had a bad one. Have set hooks into thousands of fish from a wide range of techniques and have had a VERY high hook up ratio. I have NEVER broke a seagar floro line on a hookset. When I get my reels back from cleaning the designated floro reels will be getting the appropriate line in either 8, 10, 12, or 15# line.

If you are breaking line off on hooksets you may want to inspect your knot quality or rod guides. If any your guides are rough this will fray the line and may be the culprit. If it is a line issue then it is what it is. No manufacturer has perfect manufacturing processes and bad spools will be sent on for sale from time to time. To think sunline or any company for that matter is immune from creating poor or incorrect diameter lines is wrong.

Sorry about your experience with the seaguar line. I wouldn't give up on it!

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Actually seaguar is one of the only companies that controls every aspect in the manufacturing process of their FC's. They produce line diameters with deviations far exceeding any company out there for FC.

Invizx is known for its manageability and knot strength. If you are having issues with breakoffs its most likely something to do with your knots or guides.

Yozuri is an extremely well priced line that performs well. I have a 600 yard spool of it and found that it was not for me. I much rather preferred the performance of higher grade fluoros. Yozuri is probably the highest recommended line on this forum and to be honest, at its price, you really aren't taking a huge risk giving it a shot. I would not buy into or make your decision on the invizx poor quality spew, its just farce.

Make your decision on what you want out of the line. Do you need the benefits of the faster sinking less visible invizx? Or do you want the extra strength and well priced yozuri? Its all about your needs.

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Actually seaguar is one of the only companies that controls every aspect in the manufacturing process of their FC's. They produce line diameters with deviations far exceeding any company out there for FC.

Invizx is known for its manageability and knot strength. If you are having issues with breakoffs its most likely something to do with your knots or guides.

Yozuri is an extremely well priced line that performs well. I have a 600 yard spool of it and found that it was not for me. I much rather preferred the performance of higher grade fluoros. Yozuri is probably the highest recommended line on this forum and to be honest, at its price, you really aren't taking a huge risk giving it a shot. I would not buy into or make your decision on the invizx poor quality spew, its just farce.

Make your decision on what you want out of the line. Do you need the benefits of the faster sinking less visible invizx? Or do you want the extra strength and well priced yozuri? Its all about your needs.

I can guarantee that it isn't knots or guides. All of rods are factory GLX Loomis less than one year old or Custom built NFC rods using ONLY SiC and Recoil guides in combo with titanium Sic Fuji Tops. And it isn't knots, because as I stated I've had entire spools of seaguar that fish fine and don't suffer breaks, and then I've had BAD spools.

 

And there is no debate, when the North American Manager personally calls you and admits to the line being faulty, and even sends three spools of line to make up for the bad spool. btw this happened on three different occassions over a two year period. Nothing printed in my posts is "spewing farce"...especially not when the company personally apologized 3 different times. And if you think they have the strictest standards in the industry you are flat out wrong...that would be Toray and Sunline's high end lines. Period and that's not debatable.

 

If you get a good spool of Invizx it will work fine...I gave my experience, which is a fact not an opinion, period. This is a forum and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but don't come on here acting like you have the final say. The only thing "farce" I've seen is your opinion. BTW in a fluorocarbon review done by ta*kle tour.com Toray Superhard Upgrade and Sunline Shooter were head and shoulders above the rest.

 

Yo-Zuri is great, Yo-Zuri ultra soft is not...and that's a view shared by many who have used it.

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