Guide Wraps - Color Preserve

[Jigfishn10]

Hey guys,

It's been a while since I built a rod, but I have a question on color preserve. Would you need it for metallic thread? I want to give the metallic thread a whirl and can't remember if I needed to apply a preserve or not.

PacBay has a Stay True Thread that indicates that no color preserve is not required, what are your experiences? Back when NCP thread first came out, it really didn't live up to the expectation. I'm sure since then there have been more advances to NCP thread technology, I just ahven't tried it yet.

I'm not sure which thread I'll be using yet, but I was looking for your opinions.

Thanks.

JF10

[Crookedneck]

You will not need CP for either.

[Jigfishn10]

Thanks CN.

[S Hovanec]

CP is not required for metallics, but it does help with bubbles.  Finish applied to metallics where CP is not used will release bubbles that can be trapped when the epoxy cures.

[Jigfishn10]

Thanks S Hovanec.

 

I went with metalic thread and got color preserve just in case. I will try it on a broken section of rod I have to see how it comes out.

 

Just applied a new finish on the rod and insatled the new tip top. I laid out the guides  and will start the underwraps this week.

 

 

Thanks for your help guys!

[Hollisray]

I myself build custom rods as a hobbie .

when you use metalic or nylon thread the color preserver has

to be applied to the wrap prior to the appoxy.

let the preserver cure for 1 hour on the rod dryer before

applying the finish per the manufacturers instructions.

the color preservers job is exactley what it says it is used

to prevent the wrap color from fading offer time when exposed to the suns uv rays.

[Jigfishn10]

I went with Fish Hawk Metallic thread...gold underwrap and sapphire blue guide wrap...Man, I like that thread, it wraps and lays down very nice and looks sweet after a burnish.

[Crookedneck]

Fish Hawk makes some very good thread.  I am watching football and doing a feather inlay on a custom switch rod.  The thread I used on this build was Fish Hawk varigated thread.

 

Make sure to post some pictures.

[Jigfishn10]

Thread art is something I have to get into, it looks like it would be fun to do and really looks sweet on a rod. I split a grip on my crankstick, which is now a striper rod and had done a simple fish net design, but man, there's nothing like a good decorative wrap. 

 

Post up the inlay, Crookedneck, I would love to see it.

[Jigfishn10]

This is actually a rebuild of an old rod that I love for topwater fishing. It was originally a maroon blank that really needed a new finish so now it's black. My daughter picked out the thread colors, so I gotta hand it to her, she did a nice job with her color selection.

 

Here's one of the guide wraps unburnished and not epoxied in yet:

[Crookedneck]

Looks Good!  Wrap looks nice.  My first build was done in simular colors.   Cross wraps add alot of visual effect to a rod.  I haven't done too many cross wraps lately.  Maybe my next build I will do one. 

 

I'll take some pictures of  the inlay after it gets done turning, it got it's first coat of epoxy this morning.  Here is a picture of the reel seat that I turned.  I turned the insert out of stabilized box elder burl.

 

[Jigfishn10]

Very nice Crokkedneck! You do really nice work. Can't wait to see the inlay.

 

Just finished the last 3 guides and hook keeper, just have to adjust 2 guildes and get a finish on it. So far so good...Now I need soft water...LOL

[Jigfishn10]

I was finally able to get back to my build today and decided to use a color preserve on my wraps. I did a test on a broken blank I had and like the way the guide wrap epoxy went on the wrap with preserve better than the one without. Maybe it was the way the preserve seals the thread, IDK, but I like it.

 

I'm using U-40 Color Lock 2 and Flex Coat High Build. Just finished putting on the color preserve and will let that turn over night (probably not needed, but what the heck) and hopefully tomorrow I can finish this rod up.

[Jigfishn10]

1 of 2 coats:
 

[S Hovanec]

1 of 2 coats

 

One tip I'll give.  Pour your finish from the cup on to a piece of foil.  It will spread out the finish and allow it to remain cooler, thus extending the pot life.  Also it makes bubble removal easier.

[Jigfishn10]

Many thanks S Hovanec, I appreciate the tip.