Need Some Help From Stop Getting Cramps

[JWOA]

I was out Friday and got near a point...it drops off and I figured well let me throw crankbait. I decided to tie it on my 7.1:1 gear ratio reel. And man my hands were hurting after 4 to 8 cast. I decided to tie the same 10 foot deep diver to a 6.2:1 gear ratio and my hand thanked me for a while till I got to my 46 to 58 cast and my hand just cramped up. Do you know any Great cranking reels/rods for under $200 bucks?

[ripinthem]

Revo winch is a really good choice for that price cap.

[JWOA]

Revo winch is a really good choice for that price cap.

Under $200 bruh. I love the Revo Winch and the extra drag power. But I can't afford it.

[Loop_Dad]

You are saying your hand cramps from holding the rod with deep diving crank bait vibration, correct? So it is more about the rod than the reel, no?

[Bluebasser86]

Get a 5.1 or 4.8 Bass Pro Pro Qualifier during their spring sale for about $75. I got one for my deep cranking set up this summer and really like it so far. The combo of that reel and the long, powerful rod I got for deep crankbaits has made fishing even 6XD's much easier.

[Quillback]

I've got a Shimano Crucial CRC711 (7'11") that works real well for deep cranks. Might be a bit out of your price range, when the sales come around you could probably pick one up for $140-150. If that's too much, you might want to look at a Shimano Compre Crankbait, MH, 7'6" retails for $109, of course you can get them less at a sale. Pair that with the BPS reel recommended by BlueBasser and you've got a decent combo for < $200.

[gripnrip]

I contacted Brent Chapman thru Facebook. B.A.S.S. did a story on him after he won AOY. He stated in there that he was suffering on the water with the minor aches and pains. I shot him a PM and he replied with this article. I know it is kind of off topic but I plan on doing these this off season.

[JWOA]

On 12/24/2012 at 8:30 AM, gripnrip said:

I contacted Brent Chapman thru Facebook. B.A.S.S. did a story on him after he won AOY. He stated in there that he was suffering on the water with the minor aches and pains. I shot him a PM and he replied with this article. I know it is kind of off topic but I plan on doing these this off season.

not bad great article may have to try it some time

[Bankbeater]

Have you tried any exercises for your hand?

[Ima Bass Ninja]

Get a 5.1 or 4.8 Bass Pro Pro Qualifier during their spring sale for about $75. I got one for my deep cranking set up this summer and really like it so far. The combo of that reel and the long, powerful rod I got for deep crankbaits has made fishing even 6XD's much easier.

BAM! Nailed it. The pq is an excellent reel for 100 and on sale is even better.

[BassinLou]

Gripnrip, thank you for posting that website. I read the entire article and then some. I also looked into the methodology mentioned, in which it compelled me to order the book. I have found that as I gravitate to bass fishing more and more I also find I am developing pain in areas that were not effected before. For example, my elbows just to name a few. I have done pain meds and injections and the next option I was told by doc is surgery. I do not and cannot accept that. So as I read the article you recommended and reviewed the book, I had to order it. I receive it on the Dec 27th and I will report back after 30 days for a before and after review.

[retiredbosn]

Get a 5.1 or 4.8 Bass Pro Pro Qualifier during their spring sale for about $75. I got one for my deep cranking set up this summer and really like it so far. The combo of that reel and the long, powerful rod I got for deep crankbaits has made fishing even 6XD's much easier.

X3 deep diving cranks demand less ipt, somewhere around 20 ipt, with the pro qualifier its the ones mentioned. Pair it with a mh bps crackin stick and you are set. Both are on sale now and will be again during their spring sale

[Fishes in trees]

One reason for getting cramps is that you're not hydrated. Are you staying hydrated? Drinking a beer every so often isn't staying hydrated, that becomes pain meds - not the same thing.

I often eat a couple of Alieve gel caps on the way to the lake, that helps me ignore minor aches and pains. I started wearing a tennis elbow brace this season, and it helped quite a bit with elbow pain.

I invested in a much lighter, quality pitching rod this year and that helped the elbow pain more than I thought it would. I also found out that elbow pain was a signal that I was getting sloppy with my pitching technique, I was snapping my wrist too much and being sloppy about the follow through. I was trying to pitch at targets 60 feet away when I didn't have to, i.e. I could have moved the boat closer.

Anyway, I think that as you get older you are going to get some aches and pains and you just got to deal with it. I think that I am lucky in that I haven't had any serious back issues.

[JWOA]

One reason for getting cramps is that you're not hydrated. Are you staying hydrated? Drinking a beer every so often isn't staying hydrated, that becomes pain meds - not the same thing.

I often eat a couple of Alieve gel caps on the way to the lake, that helps me ignore minor aches and pains. I started wearing a tennis elbow brace this season, and it helped quite a bit with elbow pain.

I invested in a much lighter, quality pitching rod this year and that helped the elbow pain more than I thought it would. I also found out that elbow pain was a signal that I was getting sloppy with my pitching technique, I was snapping my wrist too much and being sloppy about the follow through. I was trying to pitch at targets 60 feet away when I didn't have to, i.e. I could have moved the boat closer.

Anyway, I think that as you get older you are going to get some aches and pains and you just got to deal with it. I think that I am lucky in that I haven't had any serious back issues.

I never had a beer in my life. but I understand what you are saying. And Im only 15 years old. But I think what had happened was I was squeezing the thumb throttle on my four wheeler to much.

[JWOA]

So everybody name that basspro shops reel. How bout that Lew's MG reel in 5.4:1?

[retiredbosn]

the lews seems to be a good choice, I've no personal experience with the reels, but from all reports I've seen they are well made reels. For my money I would drop the gear ratio down to the 5.1:1 found on the BB1 model. The reel you used the last time was a 6.2:1, do you happen to know the ipt of the reel? I'm guessing around 25 ipt, if so the MG 5.4:1 brings in 23 ipt, not much difference, you can simply reel slower with the 6.2 or get a crankbait reel. IMO that means nothing over 22 ipt, and I prefer 20 or 19ipt for working the deep divers.

[coak]

Under $200 bruh. I love the Revo Winch and the extra drag power. But I can't afford it.

TW has the winch for like $130 until the 31st I believe

[Bass Junkie]

They do, but only in the left hand model.

[JunkYard814]

Make sure you stay hydrated too. Fatigue and cramps can be attributed to long bouts of activity, but can also be side effects from dehydration.

[Arv]

Cramps could be a lot of things. Whenever I've had cramps, its been because of the reel seat, especially on moving applications. My guess is there is more torque on the rod, and consequently your hands, because of the resistance of the lure moving through the water. It would never be a big deal for a few casts, but eventually I would get cramps in my palm and my pinky finger. The shape of the trigger grip was not comfortable on my hand and eventually would make it hurt. I switched up my rods, kept the same reels, and no more cramps.

Deeper diving cranks will probably encounter more resistance due to the depth with which they dive. Also, a high speed reel could add to that resistance. This is all me thinking on my own, so it may not be accurate, but hey, makes sense to me. My suggestion would be to try a different set up, switch up your rod, reel, gear ratio, etc. and see if that helps. For deep diving cranks a 4-5._:1 ratio would definitely be the way to go IMO. Hopefully something works out. I know its a pain to have to battle hand cramps when you're out on the water.

[gripnrip]

Gripnrip, thank you for posting that website. I read the entire article and then some. I also looked into the methodology mentioned, in which it compelled me to order the book. I have found that as I gravitate to bass fishing more and more I also find I am developing pain in areas that were not effected before. For example, my elbows just to name a few. I have done pain meds and injections and the next option I was told by doc is surgery. I do not and cannot accept that. So as I read the article you recommended and reviewed the book, I had to order it. I receive it on the Dec 27th and I will report back after 30 days for a before and after review.

You're welcome. I was really impressed that he even replied. I have trouble with my lower back and shoulders. I plan on starting it this week. Let me know how you like it.

[Bluebasser86]

So everybody name that basspro shops reel. How bout that Lew's MG reel in 5.4:1?

Also a good reel but I don't feel a big difference between them and the Pro Qual. The BPS reel is a very popular reel and has been used by many for years but the Lew's are still fairly new. I have no doubt that the Lew's will last fine, just something to think about. During the spring sale you can get the Pro Qual with a long, powerful BPS cranking stick for about $150. I put mine on a 7' 8" Mojo "Big Crankster" and have been very impressed with how much easier it makes to fish a deep running crank. The combo set me back around $175.

[aavery2]

Potassium helps to prevent muscle cramps, an easy source is bananas.

[JWOA]

Name the crankbaits you guys like to throw and colors please!!!!!!

[retiredbosn]

To answer your question I throw SK square bills, Normans Deep N, Little N, Fat Boy, Bomber A's, Rapala Clackin Rap, Lipless mainly from Academy, Excaliber, SK, Academy H2O crrankbaits are a great value. Color wise any natural color, Black/Blue back Chrome sides, Red, Browns with an orange bottom. I'm gonna provide a couple of links to some posts and articles here on this site, there is a wealth of info.

http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/60793-best-of-bassresourcecom/ Go down to the crankbait section, Chris knows alot about crankin and shares some information

http://www.bassresource.com/fishing/iaconelli_crankbaits.html Iaconelli article

http://www.bassresource.com/fishing/crankbait_fishing.html

http://www.bassresource.com/fishing/crankbaiting.html

http://www.bassresource.com/fishing/crankbait1.html go to bottom of page and there is a list of crankbait articles to read

http://www.bassresource.com/fishing-lures-articles/ A bunch of crankbait articles, how to, color, etc