KVD's winning bait

[Tin]

Yup, now that you say it, that was it. Love it, it is a great perch/sunfish imitation.

[promax200]

So what color pattern and size Redeye Shad did KVD win the classic on? Gotta get me some of them!!

Gold Sexy Shad for one, won't be available for at least a month, probably closer to 2-3 months.

Is bought maybe last gold sexy shad in NE Florida.  Is catch many bass now!!

[burleytog]

Yup, now that you say it, that was it. Love it, it is a great perch/sunfish imitation.

I can still get them.

[burleytog]

So what color pattern and size Redeye Shad did KVD win the classic on? Gotta get me some of them!!

Gold Sexy Shad for one, won't be available for at least a month, probably closer to 2-3 months.

Is bought maybe last gold sexy shad in NE Florida. Is catch many bass now!!

Say what? :-?

Gold Sexy Shad is a new pattern that SK released/announced on the Monday after the Classic.

[Tin]

LOL

[promax200]

So what color pattern and size Redeye Shad did KVD win the classic on? Gotta get me some of them!!

Gold Sexy Shad for one, won't be available for at least a month, probably closer to 2-3 months.

Is bought maybe last gold sexy shad in NE Florida. Is catch many bass now!!

Say what? :-?

Gold Sexy Shad is a new pattern that SK released/announced on the Monday after the Classic.

figured that would get a rise outta someone

[burleytog]

So what color pattern and size Redeye Shad did KVD win the classic on? Gotta get me some of them!!

Gold Sexy Shad for one, won't be available for at least a month, probably closer to 2-3 months.

Is bought maybe last gold sexy shad in NE Florida. Is catch many bass now!!

Say what? :-?

Gold Sexy Shad is a new pattern that SK released/announced on the Monday after the Classic.

figured that would get a rise outta someone

Rise?  :

[promax200]

I did, though, recently pick up the 18 karat tennessee shad which is pretty similar, only with a black back instead of blue.

[Goose52]

So, I already had quite a few lipless cranks (Spots, Traps, some BPS) but on my last Cabela's order I think of this thread and add a couple genuine Strike King Red Eye Shads (Cabela's web site stated: The bait that won the Bassmaster Classic).

We had snow here last week and some ice on the lake but have a warm spell right now and water temps have come up from 42 degrees a few days ago to 50 degrees today. Time to go fishing. I had a Husky Jerk tied on one of my rods and grab that...then think about it, cut it off and tie on the Red Eye. Hit the lake, 4th cast, bam - nice little 2 pounder - my first fish of 2010.

Magic bait...or coincidence ....................................... probably coincidence ! ;D

[barroncooper]

I work for Academy and have been monitering our sales on these hourly.....its unbelievable! Thing is we've had these baits for well over a year or two with fairly moderate sales....but now since KVD mentioned them everyones got to have one. They are good baits and I have caught some nice fish on them, but they are nothing but just another lipless crank. Nothing but pure buisness marketing right there.....they are catching fisherman by the boatloads ;D

I love ya'lls  h20 express lipless cranks

[=Matt 5.0=]

All your shad are belong to us.

[Carrington]

ya i dont understand what makes this bait sell more then others besides that he won with it.  tbh though ive never had much luck with a lipless crank so i just dont use them.

[bmadd]

Saturday, three rednecks in a jon boat creep into the small cut I'm fishing. I'm throwing a spot and catching fish in front of them. They start casting all around talking about how they were throwing the Kevin Van Dam bait and were gonna catch the fish :

[Coonedawg]

Saturday, three rednecks in a jon boat creep into the small cut I'm fishing. I'm throwing a spot and catching fish in front of them. They start casting all around talking about how they were throwing the Kevin Van Dam bait and were gonna catch the fish :

haha thats pretty funny.

[SlateTundra]

It amazes me how people actually believe because of one man's success with a product...they actually believe their success rate will sky rocket if they use the very same product.  (face palm)

[burleytog]

It amazes me how people actually believe because of one man's success with a product...they actually believe their success rate will sky rocket if they use the very same product. (face palm)

Why is confidence a bad thing?

[Sam]

I have have the red-eyed shad but I still like throwing the Rat-L-Traps.

I have confidence in those old Rats. 

[Primus]

There are people who believe that by having a "magic bait" they will all  of a sudden become good fisherman without considering the most important part being location, depth and presentation. That said some baits will give you an edge with the Red Eye Sad being one of the best lipless baits available. I've been fishing this bait for a few years and I didn't need to see KVD winning the classic to tell me what I already knew.

[rubba bubba]

I was at a KVD seminar today, and was told BPS is moving 8,000 Red Eye Shads per day since last weekend.

He told us how it was fished and the hook modifications that were made.

What did he say about how he fished it?  That's got me curious.

[kadas]

I have have the red-eyed shad but I still like throwing the Rat-L-Traps.

I have confidence in those old Rats.

I agree--like the red eye shad but have been throwing "traps" a long time and I think it is the confidence thing

[Hot Rod]

Dang it if I can't catch a thing on those red eye shad.  Been throwin' em under appropriate conditions for a couple years now without a fish to show for it.

I've caught the fire out of fish on a half dozen other brands of lipless baits during that time period.

Like my ol' grand daddy use to say, "I must not be holding my mouth right!" 

[Bass_Akwards]

It amazes me how people actually believe because of one man's success with a product...they actually believe their success rate will sky rocket if they use the very same product. (face palm)

I'm confused. First off, it's not "One Man" it's the guy who's widely known as the single best tourney bass fisherman in the universe.

Secondly, why are you so amazed that people buy a product and have confidence in it, when they see it actually doing something real, like winning the biggest bass fishing tourney there is?

What amazes me is that people buy things like cars because they see some pro driver on a closed track in a commercial, making amazing turns and slides and spins. That's not REAL. These people are never going to get in their new car and do what the pro driver did in the comercial.

Conversely, KVD winning the Bassmasters Classic is REAL. It happened. He beat other guys who were using different lures the "other" companies make and weekend anglers everywhere will be doing the same thing KVD did in the Classic. Fishing.

Not only that, some people got to, and get to fish Bees Wax Creek the day after KVD. I'd say that's incentive enough to go out and buy a couple red eyed Shad. (even though I'm not buying any)

If Skeete Reese had won the BMC on a Lucky Craft lure, and kicked KVD's butt while KVD was using the Red Eyed Shad, why isn't it logical for me, or any other bass fishermen to go out and buy some Lucky Craft lures and throw them with confidence, all the while thinking my success rate will skyrocket?

[D4u2s0t]

It amazes me how people actually believe because of one man's success with a product...they actually believe their success rate will sky rocket if they use the very same product. (face palm)

I'm confused. First off, it's not "One Man" it's the guy who's widely known as the single best tourney bass fisherman in the universe.

Secondly, why are you so amazed that people buy a product and have confidence in it, when they see it actually doing something real, like winning the biggest bass fishing tourney there is?

What amazes me is that people buy things like cars because they see some pro driver on a closed track in a commercial, making amazing turns and slides and spins. That's not REAL. These people are never going to get in their new car and do what the pro driver did in the comercial.

Conversely, KVD winning the Bassmasters Classic is REAL. It happened. He beat other guys who were using different lures the "other" companies make and weekend anglers everywhere will be doing the same thing KVD did in the Classic. Fishing.

Not only that, some people got to, and get to fish Bees Wax Creek the day after KVD. I'd say that's incentive enough to go out and buy a couple red eyed Shad. (even though I'm not buying any)

If Skeete Reese had won the BMC on a Lucky Craft lure, and kicked KVD's butt while KVD was using the Red Eyed Shad, why isn't it logical for me, or any other bass fishermen to go out and buy some Lucky Craft lures and throw them with confidence, all the while thinking my success rate will skyrocket?

the enthusiasts will, and do.

For the 2nd highlighted part, I see no problem with confidence, this is more about gullibility, and people put too much thought into their bait selections, and not enough into location.  Why did KVD go to the same spot?  Because it was a dang good spot.  I don't care what bait you're throwing, if there's no fish, you won't catch them.  That puts the priority on location.  Then you have to factor in what the fish are doing, and pick the appropriate presentation.  That's the next big priority.  Location, presentation, THEN choose the bait.

I don't care who wins what, who throws what, or anything else.  But people that went out and spent a ton of money on a bait that has been out for a long time, because they saw the best angler in the world win a tournament (do you think if he used a different bait he would of lost?  Doubt it.)  when conditions made the bait selection perfect is plain out gullibility.  Certain baits are great in certain locations, and bad in others.  But anyone that thinks that KVD wouldn't have done just as well with a rat-l-trap or other similar bait is putting too much importance on the type of bait, instead of simply understanding that he's the best, and would have most likely won anyway.

[roadwarrior]

Although I generally agree with the premise,

"location, location ,location"; we have all had

days when it was about choosing the "right"

lure.

Occasionally, the exact shade of a color

comes into play. To say lure selection was not

an important factor in KVD's win seems preposterous

to me!

:-?

[D4u2s0t]

Although I generally agree with the premise,

"location, location ,location"; we have all had

days when it was about choosing the "right"

lure.

Occasionally, the exact shade of a color

comes into play. To say lure selection was not

an important factor in KVD's win seems preposterous

to me!

:-?

if you're responding to me, what I simply meant was that if he was not in a location that held fish, it wouldn't matter what he tied on, because there was no fish to catch. If there's no fish, you can't catch them, regardless of bait. I don't think anyone can argue that statement in any way, shape or form... That's why location is more important than bait selection in my eyes.  If you're scouring the bottom in  20 feet of water, and the fish are suspended 5 feet down, you're again not going to catch them.  That's why presentation follows location.   You pick the location, you pick the presentation based on what the fish are doing, and THEN you pick the appropriate bait.