basslover12345 Posted December 8, 2012 Posted December 8, 2012 Anyone ever catch bass on walleye lures? Which ones and what colors? What lake were you on? Why do bass like walleye lures? Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted December 8, 2012 Global Moderator Posted December 8, 2012 Used to fish a Cotton Cordell Wally Diver crankbait for bass a lot and did pretty well. I fish 3" Berkley Power minnows for walleye most of the time and sometimes we catch more bass than walleye. They love spinner rigs with nightcrawlers, minnows, or leeches too. Usually using some kind of baitfish color or pearl and chartruese. Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 8, 2012 Super User Posted December 8, 2012 Walleyes and smallmouth or largemouth bas are both predators that sometimes share the same feeding aras and prey. You can catch both species on the same lures; jigs, worms, jerk baits, crankbaits, spoons, nearly any lure that represents minnows, worms, aquatic creatures. Walleyes prefer slender baitfish verses wide body bait fish and avoid bluegills, crappie. My first experience with walleyes was at Lake of the Woods, Ontario Canada and caught a lot of walleyes on the my bass lures. The bass lure that walleyes liked the best was a ball head jig with a straight tail grub in motoroil with red flakes, today known as green pumpkin. I picked up a few walleye lures for that trip; Cicada jigging spoon that looked like a Silver Buddy and Rapala ice jigs that both worked very good for bass at home during the winter periods. Tom Quote
BradH Posted December 8, 2012 Posted December 8, 2012 #7 Flicker shads and #7 & #9 Shad Raps are 'eye lures that catch bass pretty regular. Casting or trolling. They don't cast so great because they are really meant to be more of a trolling lure but on a spinning rod or a ML casting rod they work well. A typical bass cranking setup can handle the #9 sizes well if you don't want to drop all the way down the the #7. Those wally cranks shine in cold water or tough bite conditions. I also catch walleyes on bass lures. I've caught quite a few walleyes on drop shots and other finesse rigged soft plastic setups. I often catch SMB, LMB, walleyes, pike, drum, rock bass, etc. off the same spots with the same lures. Until I get it to the boat I don't know what I have most of the time, unless it's a drum or a pike, they like to bend the rod. A jighead with a grub body or a minnow will catch about anything. Quote
basslover12345 Posted December 8, 2012 Author Posted December 8, 2012 How's does the action of walleye baits compare to bass baits? How does the color section of walleye baits compare to the colors of bass baits? How do the designs of walleye baits compare to bass baits? Why do bass eat walleye baits? Do bass and walleye school together? What's the biggest difference between bass and walleye baits? Is one more durable than the other? Are walleye baits better for cold water? What types of cover are walleye baits designed to go through? In terms of size, how do walleye baits compare to bass baits? Do brighter color baits work as well on bass as they do on walleye? Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted December 8, 2012 Super User Posted December 8, 2012 A good sized drum on light tackle will give the fight of a lake record smallie but is always a disappointment when we get it close enough see... I'm still baffled why that is! oe Quote
BirdNestBen Posted December 8, 2012 Posted December 8, 2012 Bass will hammer Storm Wiggle warts !!!!!!!! all the colors are good... but I love the chrome colors... I'm sure no walleye expert... living down south and all... but I have caught a few... Quote
Super User WRB Posted December 8, 2012 Super User Posted December 8, 2012 Walleye are palegic predators with sharp teeth and have smaller mouth and gullet than a bass, preferring slender shaped baitfish. Bass are generally dermasil predators with a large mouth to engulf a wider variety of prey types. Bass are not a school fish wihen adult size, walleyes are school fish. Abundance of prey will bring these predators to the same feeding zones, walleyes prefer night, bass day light if the areas is off shore. Tom Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted December 8, 2012 Super User Posted December 8, 2012 Basslover... you are missing the points expressed by the previous posters. Artificial baits are designed to mimic natural prey. Within the same water most gamefish share the available prey. The gamefish will be attracted to the same artificial baits whether LABELED as walleye baits or bass baits. oe Quote
basslover12345 Posted December 8, 2012 Author Posted December 8, 2012 I'm doing an article series on cross over baits/techniques. In the winter issue I had musky baits for bass, the next one is walleye baits for bass Quote
jkarol24 Posted December 8, 2012 Posted December 8, 2012 Up here on Oneida, I catch a lot of walleye pitching jigs and beavers on deeper grass beds Quote
Super User Marty Posted December 9, 2012 Super User Posted December 9, 2012 For years I used to fish near locks on the Erie Canal in areas that held bass, walleye and pike and everything hits anything. Walleye hit bass lures and bass hit walleye lures. As a broad generality, lures labeled as walleye are longer and slimmer than many of the bass lures that might be shorter, fatter and rounder. Couple of examples that come to mind are Wally Diver and Wally Demon. I often thought that the first of those could just as well have been named Smally Diver. 1 Quote
Super User Raul Posted December 9, 2012 Super User Posted December 9, 2012 There´s one thing called lures and they are meant for catching predatory fish regardless of the species you are after. I´ve caught tons of bass with saltwater lures ( Rapala Magnum is a favorite ), "musky lures" ( my personal favorite is the musky size Jitterbug ), in the same way I´ve caught a bunch of trout with "bass lures", bass & trout with "panfish lures" ( ´gill & crappie ), same applies to saltwater fish caught with freshwater lures. So, there´s no such thing as "walleye lures". 1 Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted December 10, 2012 Super User Posted December 10, 2012 How's does the action of walleye baits compare to bass baits? How does the color section of walleye baits compare to the colors of bass baits? How do the designs of walleye baits compare to bass baits? Why do bass eat walleye baits? Do bass and walleye school together? What's the biggest difference between bass and walleye baits? Is one more durable than the other? Are walleye baits better for cold water? What types of cover are walleye baits designed to go through? In terms of size, how do walleye baits compare to bass baits? Do brighter color baits work as well on bass as they do on walleye? If I could pitch jigs/plastics for walleye/sauger everyday I would but it's really limited towards early spring/fall/early winter up to ice up. I love jig fishing walleye on the mississippi. This bait is called a "super doo" http://bfishntackle.com/4inch_superdoo.html It's profile is the same as your normal bass tube except the diameter of the body is that of a pencil rather than a large marker like a bass tube. These baits are meant to be vertical jigged in tailwaters and held perfect still a few inches off the bottom rather than dragged of hopped like a bass tube. These next baits are ringworms/moxis/paddletails. http://bfishntackle.com/4inch_ringworm.html http://bfishntackle.com/pulser_paddletail.html http://bfishntackle.com/pulser_paddletail2.45.html http://bfishntackle.com/4inch_moxi.html Each of these baits is used during certain times of low flow/high flow depending on basically what the fish want. The ringworm was originally a bass bait until somebody started pitching them to wingdams for walleye and they have been basically the "go to" bait for finding large walleye with plastics during the spring/fall. The paddletail i'm sure you recognize as a bass bait but it's just been altered a bit with it's profile and color options are what favor walleye bites. The Moxi was introduced a couple years ago and has basically replaced most walleye fishermans ringworm obsession. These baits are KILLER. The tail action on it will thump when it is barely moved. The moxi/pulse-r are dynamite trailers for spinnerbaits and swim jigs as you don't have to move the bait very fast at all and the tail will thump. I throw moxis for walleye pitching wingdams and rip rap/sand areas probably 75% of the time and the rest is pulse-r's or paddletails depending on the action the fish want. Jig heads are used for these baits every time. With bass, lots of times you will use a heavier jig to get the bait to the bottom. With walleye jig/plastic pitching the idea is to use the lightest weight possible to get the bait to "flow" with the current as close to the bottom as you can. There is that fine line between being snagged and getting that bite that takes practice to master. I don't believe walleye a bass school together that frequently but there are times during the year where the "feed" is on and there you will catch crappie/bass/walleye/even catfish if you find bait boiling. Walleye only "prefer" night to feed shallow which is when most people pitch jigs during the cold months of the year as your biggest fish is often caught in 8 feet of water up to inches of water when the water temp is as low as 30 degrees. They will bite during the day but the bite will be deeper during a sunny high sky day and not quite as deep but not night time shallow during low light/cloudy days. Color selection of walleye baits really boils down like bass baits. Confidence. However, my favorite walleye colors are Chart. pepper/purple /w chart. tail/pro blue/oystershell/motor oil (not green pumpkin) /w chart tail, firecracker and white. Of all those colors the only oneI would use for bass would be white. Color selection is something that can change hour to hour and day to day. a basic rule is cloudy days-dark colors like pro blue and sunny days colors like chart. pepper. this rule doesn't apply at night as that's a whole different thing. These plastics are basically as durable as any other soft plastic worm. you do catch a lot more fish on walleye baits before it's beat up though. Bait size is often more "slender" but the length is usually the same aside from the 10in plastic worms for bass. 3"-5" soft plastic baits are the norm for walleye. Action of a walleye bait is more dictated by the tail than anything. How is transmits vibration whether it be a lot or a little dictates the bite. Crankbaits/live bait like leeches/night crawlers are a post spawn up to early fall around the 55 degree mark. Jigs/plastics or hairjig/minnow is used during the color season from 55 degree water temp up to ice up and ice out up to spawn (around 40-47 degrees). Almost forgot blade baits. http://bfishntackle.com/b3_bladebaits.html These are great vertical jigging walleye/sauger of pitching for them in shallow water. the action used for this however is very subtle and only meant to be felt vibration 3-4 times when retrieving (somtimes less, sometimes more) these are also used for smallmouth but the action imposed is often times much more of a 1-2 ft' lift/drop. let me know if you got any more questions. Quote
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