World Record Largemouth

[craww]

There will NEVER be another World Record from ANY state that has NEVER produced

a 20 pound fish, which includes Florida. NO state that hasn't produced a 10 lb smallmouth

will EVER produce a World Record small jaw either.

California is the only possibility in the Western Hemisphere for a largemouth record.

Tennessee, Alabama and Kentucky are the only contenders for a World Record

smallmouth.

I think your underestimating nature. Fish within 4-5lbs (several not even full of eggs mind you) of the WR are caught fairly often even in texas.There are fish shocked up of all species in bodies of water all over the world all the time that blow conventional wisdom out of the water.

Its very possible theres several wr's swimming around who knows where. At the end of the day neither of us can say with certainty but I think its very possible. Now being in the right place and time and catching it is a different story.

[flyfisher]

Man, been reeling them in left and right. Thought the whole 26 pound fish in VA was enough to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the claim was ridiculous. If we could only get this same skepticism with the fishing reports where people are constantly reporting 7 and 8 pounders left and right like it's nothing. Just proving my point. Road Warrior? Seriously, you were biting on this too? Come on man. Tried to make it as dumb as possible.

It is funny though how people will give you measurements of the one that got away, forget the camera, or have it verified by "the friend" whatever that means.

Until these ridiculous reports stop comin, my PB status remains!

You know i thought this was troll post but after i saw you had many posts on here i figured you were legit.....well played well played

[roadwarrior]

Man, been reeling them in left and right. Thought the whole 26 pound fish in VA was enough to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the claim was ridiculous. If we could only get this same skepticism with the fishing reports where people are constantly reporting 7 and 8 pounders left and right like it's nothing. Just proving my point. Road Warrior? Seriously, you were biting on this too? Come on man. Tried to make it as dumb as possible.

It is funny though how people will give you measurements of the one that got away, forget the camera, or have it verified by "the friend" whatever that means.

Until these ridiculous reports stop comin, my PB status remains!

Good one! You got me...

-Kent

[WRB]

There isn't 1 northern strain largemouth bass from any state that exceeds 17 lbs! Any LMB that exceed 17 lbs has Florida LMB genes.

California's state record for NLMB, before FLMB were introduced was 15 1 oz., after FLMB were stocked in 1959 that record fell until it reached 22.01 lbs (Crupi). It's all about genes, available food source with ideal growing conditions and sanctuary areas to escape fishing pressure.

Tom

[SPEEDBEAD.]

I think your underestimating nature. Fish within 4-5lbs (several not even full of eggs mind you) of the WR are caught fairly often even in texas

That's the thing, right there. Texas' record is 18 and change. Yeah, big fish but NOWHERE near the record. Those fish are topped out around there and I dont know that "fairly often" accurately describes how often 17-18lb fish are caught in that state or anywhere for that matter. A review of the Share-a-lunker program would tell you "not very often at all." Choke Canyon, Fork and Falcon all have CRAZY numbers of DD's in them, but they are lacking the upper echelon genetics to produce a true giant fish.

I also kinda disagree with RW in where a smallmouth record could come from. I think Berryessa in CA has the forage base and genetics to kick out a record.

[A-Jay]

The pyramid is steep, but to reach the top there should be a pool of prospects. Even though I think the

World Record fish are to some degree anomalies, in order for a smallmouth to get to 12 lbs, it had to weigh

10 at one time. For the Great Lakes to produce this fish, there should be at least a few 10+ on record, but

there are none.

^^^^^^^^^^^^

X2 - I would have to agree with the this premise.

A-Jay

[roadwarrior]

We have no chance of a record breaking largemouth in this part of the country,

but we have documentation for The World Record Smallmouth in TN or KY (there

has always been a dispute as to the exact location the fish was caught at on Dale

Hollow). Number two was also caught on Dale Hollow and considered the World

Record for many years. http://worldrecordsmallmouth.com/

#3 Is the current ALabama State Record, 10-8

 

I have heard rumors of a few 10+ on Pickwick, but no record broken so no certified documentation. One of

these fish I had the privilege of holding. My fishing partner, Speedy Madewell, caught the monster which I

netted and weighed.

[Mattlures]

Socal has continued to get trout stocks. The problem is alot of lakes like to stock bigger trout for the trout fisherman. Small trout are much better as the smaller bass can eat them and get growing at an earlier age. I have only seen 2 fish I thought were 20+. I lost one and never caught the other but I think Mike Long caught her and she went 19 something.But both of those fish were 6-7years ago

http://www.mikelongoutdoors.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/nightbassing1.jpg

Mike also caught this 19.3 a couple years ago but even then its still along ways away from 22.4

http://www.mikelongoutdoors.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/19-3-Lake-Morena-bass-on-scale.jpg

I dont know if we currently have any contenders but its possible

[SPEEDBEAD.]

I believe that people underestimate the difficulty of a 3-5lb weight jump.

Think about a three pound fish. Great tournament fish and 5 of them all the time will win you money in a lot of places.

Now think about a 8lb fish. For anyone not in Cali or the south, that is a fish of a lifetime. Hell, there are plenty of guys in Cali or the south that would love to claim an 8lb fish as their PB. Putting 5lbs on is no joke, nor is it an easy feat. The fact is that there is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference in a 18lb fish and one weighing 5lbs more that would break the record.

I'll go and agree with Kent on the Largemouth that if the state hasn't produced a 20, it is a "hit the Powerball twice" lottery shot to produce a record.

[NEjitterbugger]

Man, been reeling them in left and right. Thought the whole 26 pound fish in VA was enough to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the claim was ridiculous. If we could only get this same skepticism with the fishing reports where people are constantly reporting 7 and 8 pounders left and right like it's nothing. Just proving my point. Road Warrior? Seriously, you were biting on this too? Come on man. Tried to make it as dumb as possible.

It is funny though how people will give you measurements of the one that got away, forget the camera, or have it verified by "the friend" whatever that means.

Until these ridiculous reports stop comin, my PB status remains!

You know i thought this was troll post but after i saw you had many posts on here i figured you were legit.....well played well played

Initially thought you were a troll aswell, then I thought you were being serioous wiht all of your other posts....

~Im accepting defeat... lol

[WRB]

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/fish/Resources/BlackBass/history.asp

These are the California official state bass records, bass that were weighed and authenticated by the DFG.

Dottie the bass reported to weigh 25.1 was never officially weighed or examined at that weight.

Bob Crupi's 22.01 falls into the same unofficial category, both bass released before officially weighed and examined.

Bass anglers have a long history of fudging weights by adding items inside the bass or the scales are not accurate.

The bottom line is giant bass over 15 lbs are extremely rare fish and over 20 lbs, all we're caught in California and 1 from Japan....22 lbs 5 oz, the current world record largemouth bass. If you don't have FLMB strains in your lakes you have 0 chance of catching a world record LMB!

Tom

[3bd4]

Thanks for everyones reply on the topic. I have really enjoyed reading everything that was sad. IMO the only place that could potentially produce a record largemouth in the U.S. would be a lake 75+ acres in California.

[PABASS]

http://www.dfg.ca.go...ass/history.asp

These are the California official state bass records, bass that were weighed and authenticated by the DFG.

Dottie the bass reported to weigh 25.1 was never officially weighed or examined at that weight.

Bob Crupi's 22.01 falls into the same unofficial category, both bass released before officially weighed and examined.

Bass anglers have a long history of fudging weights by adding items inside the bass or the scales are not accurate.

The bottom line is giant bass over 15 lbs are extremely rare fish and over 20 lbs, all we're caught in California and 1 from Japan....22 lbs 5 oz, the current world record largemouth bass. If you don't have FLMB strains in your lakes you have 0 chance of catching a world record LMB!

Tom

I thought that Japan had the world record bass, I believe there is a youtube video of it.

Something to think about in Japan Bass are to be killed or at least most people consider them an invasive and destructive species, while yes they are invasive I am not sure on the destructive part. With this said they are an apex predator and because of this Bass took total control of its environment, plenty to eat, long growing season, apex predator, could happen in a small private lake and or pond here in the US. They grew to this length while constantly being caught and killed by man, imagine as Bass fishing becomes more like here in the US with catch and release I think Japan may be tough to beat.

[bass1980]

People need to stop it about record bass in a pond. Three things needed for record size bass. Food, warm water, and size of water. Your fish tank bass will never get 10 pounds no matter how much you feed it. It's just goes against science. PB pond bass may be big but not even close to 20 lbs. A 20+ lb bass doesn't even look normal anymore. Like hogzilla in the hog world. I don't believe it's normal for a bass to have a belly like that. If record bass was longer and more proportioned then yes it's normal. Think about Yao Ming, that guy is not normal lol.

[WRB]

I thought that Japan had the world record bass, I believe there is a youtube video of it.

Something to think about in Japan Bass are to be killed or at least most people consider them an invasive and destructive species, while yes they are invasive I am not sure on the destructive part. With this said they are an apex predator and because of this Bass took total control of its environment, plenty to eat, long growing season, apex predator, could happen in a small private lake and or pond here in the US. They grew to this length while constantly being caught and killed by man, imagine as Bass fishing becomes more like here in the US with catch and release I think Japan may be tough to beat.

1 from Japan...22 lbs 5 oz is the world record!

Tom

[jeremyt]

There will NEVER be another World Record from ANY state that has NEVER produced

a 20 pound fish, which includes Florida. NO state that hasn't produced a 10 lb smallmouth

will EVER produce a World Record small jaw either.

California is the only possibility in the Western Hemisphere for a largemouth record.

Tennessee, Alabama and Kentucky are the only contenders for a World Record

smallmouth.

You can include NC for the smallie, as the state records is 10.02, but you may also consider that where it was caught was far eastern TN. LOL

[NorcalBassin]

We're blessed with some giant bass in the Norcal foothill lakes I fish due to all the trout and kokanee plants. Melones is in my backyard and in the last couple years the lake records have been dropping like flies. LMB 18.11 and hypothetically still swimming and a 8.6 spot. Trout records also fell in the last 2 years... brown 13.4 and rainbow 8.2 lbs. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a 20 pound LMB in there. Don Pedro (across the highway) has a LMB record of 18.9 and nearby Lake Pardee has a SM record of 9.13 (5 years ago) and the guy that caught her said he hooked and lost one by the boat that was even bigger. Time to start chasing some giants!

[merc1997]

People need to stop it about record bass in a pond. Three things needed for record size bass. Food, warm water, and size of water. Your fish tank bass will never get 10 pounds no matter how much you feed it. It's just goes against science. PB pond bass may be big but not even close to 20 lbs. A 20+ lb bass doesn't even look normal anymore. Like hogzilla in the hog world. I don't believe it's normal for a bass to have a belly like that. If record bass was longer and more proportioned then yes it's normal. Think about Yao Ming, that guy is not normal lol.

perhaps you are not familar with ethyl that was in the bass pro shop aquarium. ethyl came from lake fork. ethyl grew to quite a very big size before she died. i do not recall the exact weight, but it was considerably bigger than her original weigh when first caught from fork. so, i think you might want to rethink your statement about smaller bodies of water. just as ethyl grew in bass pro shops aquarium, a bass in the right small body of water, that is managed correctly, and has the right food supply, could reach a weight of 20lbs. plus. of course, it would have to be a flmb.

bo

[wisconsin heat]

I think its just a matter of time before manabu pulls another one out of lake biwa in Japan

[0119]

I dont know where a new record will come from and actually hope it never gets broken. If it does though, I hope some old timer in over-alls using a old outfit and a no name lure catches it in a out of the way hole. Only he would be smart enough not to blab its location.

[bass1980]

perhaps you are not familar with ethyl that was in the bass pro shop aquarium. ethyl came from lake fork. ethyl grew to quite a very big size before she died. i do not recall the exact weight, but it was considerably bigger than her original weigh when first caught from fork. so, i think you might want to rethink your statement about smaller bodies of water. just as ethyl grew in bass pro shops aquarium, a bass in the right small body of water, that is managed correctly, and has the right food supply, could reach a weight of 20lbs. plus. of course, it would have to be a flmb.

bo

Yes I'm familiar with the story of Ethel. She was breed in a hatchery but was caught in Lake Fork. That lake is massive. When she was caught she was already 17+ lbs. So to me this has no relations to raising record bass in a tank or pond. Most fish get stunted when they are young and will never recover. Not saying they are stunted but determined growth will be when they are young.

[merc1997]

bo

Yes I'm familiar with the story of Ethel. She was breed in a hatchery but was caught in Lake Fork. That lake is massive. When she was caught she was already 17+ lbs. So to me this has no relations to raising record bass in a tank or pond. Most fish get stunted when they are young and will never recover. Not saying they are stunted but determined growth will be when they are young.

amazing that ethel continued to grow at a normal rate even though she was in an aquarium. fish are animals just as cattle, chickens or anything else. growth has nothing to do with free roaming space. if that was so, why do they raise chickens in a closed environment? genetics of course is going to play a major factor in the size of any bass. i will state again that you would have to have a well managed pond, small lake, tank or what ever. managing would include trimming the population down to the ones with the best growing genes. they do the same thing now on deer farms. they keep bucks in a contained environment, where all the feeding is controlled to grow a bigger, better buck

bo.

[bass1980]

Chicken raised to be slaughter are fed differently and injected with hormones/roids whatever you call it. It is nothing typical to the wild. Look at a Tyson chicken vs a all natural chicken.

One of my passion growin up is fish keeping. Not little tetras but expensive discus, monster predator fish, and even native game fish. The question always pop up as how big can they get. The enthusiast always answer that they can only get xxx big is that size tank. I believe fish and water is deifferent than air breathing mammals. A fish in cold climate will usually never be bigger than fish in warm climate...on average.... Due to them trying to save energy and live off the fat.

There's always that rare out of the norm fish. But there will always be that rare out of the norm fish in a southern massive lake that's bigger. Unless its fished so much to the point they don't even get that chance. Key word is record so my bet would be that.

[WRB]

The IGFA could open the door to a new world record largemouth bass by simply recognizing that FACT that northern (M.s. salomides) and Florida strain (M.s.Florides) LMB are TWO different fish and establish a record for each species. The easiest field identifier is the lateral line pour scale count: NLMB have 68 ot fewer pour scales, FLMB have 69 or greater number of pour scales. You can count lateral line pour scales while the bass is alive and laying on a wet towel and I have done this many times! IGFA has already established the FLMB records, both the Kurita and Perry bass are FLMB, leaving open the world record for NLMB.

Tom