BassAssassin726 Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 Unless California resumes stocking rainbow trout into lakes that have FLMB populations, the possibility of a world record bass from California is a very low possibility. Butch Brown catches more giant bass each year than anyone and his PB is 19.3 lbs,. authenticated or officially weighed 20 lb largemouth bass are extremely rare. California is the only state to produce 20+ lb FLMB with the one exception of the Goerge Perry WR form Georgia in 1932. You never say never, look what came out of Japan, the probability is very, very, low that a new WR LMB will be caught. My PB is 19.3 lbs and believe I had 2 that were over 20 lbs that got away. I haven't seen a LMB that exceeded 30" and that is the magic number. The Karita WR bass 22.3 lbs., and Dottie were 29.75" long with girth exceeding 28". My 18.6 & 19.3 were both the same length; 28" with 28" girth......2" length could = 5 lbs with these giants, if they have the right food source! Tom You and Butch Brown have the same size PB? Cool. Quote
BassAssassin726 Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 Look at my PB. I caught one that was, but let it go. World records are in every state of this country. And apparently 8 pounders are as common as one pounders in a lot of the fishing reports i read. You caught a 26 pounder? It just so happen to be dying so it couldnt be certified? And this was in Virginia? I call bull. Lol Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted November 18, 2012 Super User Posted November 18, 2012 You and Butch Brown have the same size PB? Cool. What do think WRB stands for? Quote
craww Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 I'm talking atleast an acre or so.... If you take a Largemouth from a 4 acre pond and put it in a 300 acre pond that really isn't going to drastically change the size or growth rate of the fish if both areas have lots of bait... I get so tired of hearing that myth about a smaller pond not being able to sustain even big fish, much less a record. Its gotten so bad manufacturers make "pond" baits in smaller sizes, lol. Biologists recommend harvesting several hundred pounds of bass, blue gill, etc, per acre each year. If there's shad, lack of other predators, or even a management program that much better. People act like their goldfish in a freaking bowl lol. My PB is .2lbs shy of 12lbs, and I have an 11.4n (Northern Strain).True giants in VA. Both out of small ponds. 1 Quote
NEjitterbugger Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 I get so tired of hearing that myth about a smaller pond not being able to sustain even big fish, much less a record. Its gotten so bad manufacturers make "pond" baits in smaller sizes, lol. Biologists recommend harvesting several hundred pounds of bass, blue gill, etc, per acre each year. If there's shad, lack of other predators, or even a management program that much better. People act like their goldfish in a freaking bowl lol. My PB is .2lbs shy of 12lbs, and I have an 11.4n (Northern Strain).True giants in VA. Both out of small ponds. Thank You!!! My PB also comes from a very small pond, even though my PB is 5lbs 11oz not 12lbs LOL.... Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 18, 2012 Super User Posted November 18, 2012 Well, I suppose it depends on where you live. In the Mid South small ponds dry up every decade or so. I don't fish ponds less than five acres in general. Even though I don't know everything about a farm pond, anything that dries up occasionally is probably not going to support big bass. Quote
NEjitterbugger Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 Well, I suppose it depends on where you live. In the Mid South small ponds dry up every decade or so. I don't fish ponds less than five acres in general. Even though I don't know everything about a farm pond, anything that dries up occasionally is probably not going to support big bass. I agree, but where I live I don't have that problem, and the depth of any small pond is also a facor of holding large fish if there is a problem with water levels.... ~I actually prefer fishing ponds under 100 acres... But that's just me... Quote
tnriverluver Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 I don't know about the world record, but the Tenn state record was shocked up In Browns Creek Lake in Natchez Trace park by TWRA this spring. It is still there somewhere! Quote
Brian Needham Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 arkansas' record came from a "lake" less than 300 acres. and the record that caught this year(later DQed) came from a smaller lake as well. Quote
greyleg33 Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 I think several states could produce a world record and water size doesn't have a lot to do with it. Quote
craww Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 I cant help but think at some point a FREAK is gonna show up somewhere unexpectedly like the New england state had with the 15 or 16lbr that came up through the ice. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 19, 2012 Super User Posted November 19, 2012 There will NEVER be another World Record from ANY state that has NEVER produced a 20 pound fish, which includes Florida. NO state that hasn't produced a 10 lb smallmouth will EVER produce a World Record small jaw either. California is the only possibility in the Western Hemisphere for a largemouth record. Tennessee, Alabama and Kentucky are the only contenders for a World Record smallmouth. Quote
shimmy Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 You caught a 26 pounder? It just so happen to be dying so it couldnt be certified? And this was in Virginia? I call bull. Lol I fish at least once a month and when you start fishing this much, you start producing 8+ pound bass almost daily. It's no biggie, you should have seen the one that got away this spring. At least 5 pounds bigger than that PB. Had a friend verify it too, and had measurements. 1 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted November 19, 2012 Super User Posted November 19, 2012 I fish at least once a month and when you start fishing this much, you start producing 8+ pound bass almost daily. It's no biggie, you should have seen the one that got away this spring. At least 5 pounds bigger than that PB. Had a friend verify it too, and had measurements. So where are the pictures? I mean a world record bass is basically worth a million dollars. And once a month isn't fishing that much really..... 1 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 19, 2012 Super User Posted November 19, 2012 I fish at least once a month and when you start fishing this much, you start producing 8+ pound bass almost daily. It's no biggie, you should have seen the one that got away this spring. At least 5 pounds bigger than that PB. Had a friend verify it too, and had measurements. BS...On the other hand...It's amazing that you had measurements of the one that got away... 3 Quote
1234567 Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 "Small" is subjective. Dottie was caught from Dixon, small imo, Butch fishes the lagoon which is "small"?? No 23 pound bass will ever come from a 2 acre pond. Quote
ChrisAW Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 And once a month isn't fishing that much really..... x2, that is not much at all. Fishing a lot would be like my co-worker Dustin... Atleast 4 local tournaments a WEEK at the peak of the season. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted November 19, 2012 Super User Posted November 19, 2012 There will NEVER be another World Record from ANY state that has NEVER produced a 20 pound fish, which includes Florida. NO state that hasn't produced a 10 lb smallmouth will EVER produce a World Record small jaw either. California is the only possibility in the Western Hemisphere for a largemouth record. Tennessee, Alabama and Kentucky are the only contenders for a World Record smallmouth. Care to elaborate why? Quote
North Ga Hillbilly Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 I have had a great year that has allowed me to see a slew of decent fish. There is a MAJOR diff between a 10# and a 12#, and a new step into the teens. A random fish's ability to grow to 10# is decent I believe, to 12# I'm more skeptical, and the jump into the teens, much less 20#+ is dependent on genetics. You could force feed 10 randomly selected bass high protien pellets and I feel it is unlikely any of them would break 15#. I pull scales on all the big fish I catch, you'd be suprised at some of the ages. As far as small water goes, there have been several 15#-16# fish caught out of south georgia farm ponds >20 acers. That being said... those next 6 pounds are much harder to get than the first 16. NGaHB Quote
merc1997 Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 it takes a very special lake to produce bass of world record size. wrb has told us that. falcon is a great example. it has everything going for it. year round growing season, food, cover, but there are draw backs. fishing pressure is one. remember wrb stating the age of around 12 to reach maximum potential. the other problem with falcon is water levels. if the water could be left 35 to 40 feet higher than it is now for a 12 year period, you just might see a world record if you could get it out of the jungle. years ago, i know there were a few nlmb here in table rock lake pushing 20lbs. i have seen a picture of two bass that were gigged out of the roaring river arm during the winter that went 17lbs. and 19lbs. those bass were weighed, and i do know the person that gigged them. they went on the dinner table. table rock is lucky to produce a 9lb. bass anymore. the lmb virus virtually wiped out the lake, and polution and other things will prevent table rock from producing numbers of giant fish it use to. i am sure that wrb is right about cali. chances usless they start stocking trout again. bo Quote
NEjitterbugger Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 I fish at least once a month and when you start fishing this much, you start producing 8+ pound bass almost daily. It's no biggie, you should have seen the one that got away this spring. At least 5 pounds bigger than that PB. Had a friend verify it too, and had measurements. I fish more than that and my PB is 5lbs 11oz... Since you catch these 8 pounders so freqently why don't you post pics of them? Next spring post some pics, considering you catch an 8 pounder almost every outing... Im not even asking for a pic of your "world record catch" just an 8# that you catch so often.. Quote
shimmy Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 Man, been reeling them in left and right. Thought the whole 26 pound fish in VA was enough to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the claim was ridiculous. If we could only get this same skepticism with the fishing reports where people are constantly reporting 7 and 8 pounders left and right like it's nothing. Just proving my point. Road Warrior? Seriously, you were biting on this too? Come on man. Tried to make it as dumb as possible. It is funny though how people will give you measurements of the one that got away, forget the camera, or have it verified by "the friend" whatever that means. Until these ridiculous reports stop comin, my PB status remains! 4 Quote
merc1997 Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 Man, been reeling them in left and right. Thought the whole 26 pound fish in VA was enough to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the claim was ridiculous. If we could only get this same skepticism with the fishing reports where people are constantly reporting 7 and 8 pounders left and right like it's nothing. Just proving my point. Road Warrior? Seriously, you were biting on this too? Come on man. Tried to make it as dumb as possible. It is funny though how people will give you measurements of the one that got away, forget the camera, or have it verified by "the friend" whatever that means. Until these ridiculous reports stop comin, my PB status remains! i have to laugh. in my many years of fishing, there are many more 8's caught in the coffee shop than on the water. there are way too many people that catch a nice 8lber, and not weigh it, but in their eyes, it was 8lbs. i just have seen it way too many times. when you catch quite a few big ones every year since the 60's, you get pretty good at telling the weight of a bass just looking at it. but, most people do not have that experience. hence, there are lots of 8's caught. bo Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 19, 2012 Super User Posted November 19, 2012 Care to elaborate why? The pyramid is steep, but to reach the top there should be a pool of prospects. Even though I think the World Record fish are to some degree anomalies, in order for a smallmouth to get to 12 lbs, it had to weigh 10 at one time. For the Great Lakes to produce this fish, there should be at least a few 10+ on record, but there are none. Florida and Texas grow massive numbers of huge bass, but never 20 lbs. It's unlikely to get from there to 22-5 or 25-1 depending on your view of "the record". Unless there is some population of world class contenders, I don't think a new record can be expected. Quote
Quillback Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 Don't forget Texas, their mad scientists are working hard at using genetics to create a WRB. http://www.statesman.com/news/lifestyles/recreation/lunkers-landed-at-a-rapid-pace-this-season/nRrbf/ Quote
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