Super User Dwight Hottle Posted November 15, 2012 Super User Posted November 15, 2012 This spring I thought it would be interesting to keep a log of all smallies caught out of my boat between 5 & 6lbs and between 6 & 7lbs. I hopefully wanted to record a third category of 7 to 8lbs but that didn't happen. The log data only included three months, April, May & October, prime months for me. The total of five to six lbers was 60 smallies. The total of six to seven lbers was 8 smallies. Biggest fish went 6-15. That makes for roughly a one out of eight ratio or put another way you have to catch eight 5lbers before you are going to catch one over six pounds. And unless your lucky you won't break seven. Since I started fishing lake erie for smallies about 2005 I have noticed a yearly change regarding the numbers of quality fish. Some years the number of six to seven lbers sky rocketed while others years we barely saw a true six. The numbers of legit five pounders bodes well for the future. Total time spent fishing out of those three months was about 7 weeks. All 68 smallies were caught on jerk baits. Now if we just get Steve Parks to spill the beans about his numbers. 2 Quote
Super User scaleface Posted November 15, 2012 Super User Posted November 15, 2012 man, I need to fish Lake Erie. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 15, 2012 Super User Posted November 15, 2012 Jerkbaits? I'm shocked. Seriously, this is my favorite technique, but I thought the vast majority of your fish were caught on a swim jig, specificlly this Jensen: http://jensenjigs.com/frame.html Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted November 15, 2012 Author Super User Posted November 15, 2012 Jerkbaits? I'm shocked. Seriously, this is my favorite technique, but I thought the vast majority of your fish were caught on a swim jig, specificlly this Jensen: http://jensenjigs.com/frame.html Honestly all on jerk baits. I love using jigs but the last few years I have targeted suspending fish using jerks. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted November 15, 2012 Super User Posted November 15, 2012 Some mind boggling numbers right there Dwight; and all in 7 Weeks ~ I'm betting there are more that a few guides from all over, who would be very happy to be able to advertise those statistics. Thanks to you, I can claim a few from each catagory. A-Jay Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 Wow, that is definitely some great stats. Quote
HookSetDon Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 Thats really something, you have that bait dialed in! Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted November 15, 2012 Super User Posted November 15, 2012 Outstanding results. But the real question is how many smallies did you catch to get those 5's and 6's? Jeff 1 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted November 15, 2012 Author Super User Posted November 15, 2012 Outstanding results. But the real question is how many smallies did you catch to get those 5's and 6's? Jeff Not as many as you would think. We get a lot of 3-4lbers but not twice as many as 5+ Maybe A-Jay, Speedbead or CWB will chime in with their own observations. Quote
PABASS Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 Wasn't there a mass die off this year, I believe my wife told me about it? Maybe it wasn't even smallies? Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted November 16, 2012 Super User Posted November 16, 2012 Outstanding results. But the real question is how many smallies did you catch to get those 5's and 6's? Jeff Not as many as you would think. We get a lot of 3-4lbers but not twice as many as 5+ Maybe A-Jay, Speedbead or CWB will chime in with their own observations. The first thing BR members should know, is that Dwight is a total Stickler when it comes to weighting fish. He uses 2 different scales - a certified Boga grip and a very high speed digital model (sorry I don't remember the brand name) My point here is - these are not "guesstimates" but are about as accurate a weight as one can get while on the water. OK - So I went back through my notes from the week I spent on Lake Erie this past April. And for that week, I'd have to agree with Dwight's perspective. Here's the numbers from that 7 days of smb fishing - all on jerkbaits ~ you can draw your own conclusion. Each day we fished between 9:30am – 6:30pm. Each day we had between 15-25 fish. Most days every 5th smb was over 5lbs. For two days every 4th smb was over 5lbs. The 5th day, I took a 5 lb 9 oz smb – a new PB. The 6th day, Dwight’s first fish was a 6 lb 1 oz smb – not a PB for Dwight. The last day, my first fish was a 6lb 4oz smb – Definitely a New PB ! A-Jay Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted November 16, 2012 Super User Posted November 16, 2012 So basically give Dwight 7 days and he will put you on a lunker or two......noted Jeff 1 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 16, 2012 Super User Posted November 16, 2012 The first thing BR members should know, is that Dwight is a total Stickler when it comes to weighting fish. He uses 2 different scales - a certified Boga grip and a very high speed digital model (sorry I don't remember the brand name) My point here is - these are not "guesstimates" but are about as accurate a weight as one can get while on the water. OK - So I went back through my notes from the week I spent on Lake Erie this past April. And for that week, I'd have to agree with Dwight's perspective. Here's the numbers from that 7 days of smb fishing - all on jerkbaits ~ you can draw your own conclusion. Each day we fished between 9:30am – 6:30pm. Each day we had between 15-25 fish. Most days every 5th smb was over 5lbs. For two days every 4th smb was over 5lbs. The 5th day, I took a 5 lb 9 oz smb – a new PB. The 6th day, Dwight’s first fish was a 6 lb 1 oz smb – not a PB for Dwight. The last day, my first fish was a 6lb 4oz smb – Definitely a New PB ! A-Jay Well, I have been fishing the Tennessee River for 13 years and have had a day like that! It's really hard for me to imagine fishing with that kind of production and consistency. Kudos to you Mr. Hottle! :respect-040: 1 Quote
Super User CWB Posted November 16, 2012 Super User Posted November 16, 2012 Not as many as you would think. We get a lot of 3-4lbers but not twice as many as 5+ Maybe A-Jay, Speedbead or CWB will chime in with their own observations. I can honestly say that in the 4 days I was there, out of the 50 or so fish I caught, (I lost track) maybe 5 were under 4-4.5 lbs. My PB of 6-4 came on a Berkley Flicker Shad 2 minutes into the day on my birthday. I ended up with best 5 that went over 26 lb. I actually got dissappointed reeling one up and seeing it wasn't a 5. Phenomenal fishery to say the least. Maybe fall is less numbers and better avg. size and spring is better numbers and mixed size? Only Dwight could confirm this. Or maybe I need to come out in the spring and assist in the research. (hint hint) 1 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted November 18, 2012 Author Super User Posted November 18, 2012 I can honestly say that in the 4 days I was there, out of the 50 or so fish I caught, (I lost track) maybe 5 were under 4-4.5 lbs. My PB of 6-4 came on a Berkley Flicker Shad 2 minutes into the day on my birthday. I ended up with best 5 that went over 26 lb. I actually got dissappointed reeling one up and seeing it wasn't a 5. Phenomenal fishery to say the least. Maybe fall is less numbers and better avg. size and spring is better numbers and mixed size? Only Dwight could confirm this. Or maybe I need to come out in the spring and assist in the research. (hint hint) Ken I didn't know you were such a researcher. Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted November 18, 2012 Author Super User Posted November 18, 2012 Well, I have been fishing the Tennessee River for 13 years and have had a day like that! It's really hard for me to imagine fishing with that kind of production and consistency. Kudos to you Mr. Hottle! :respect-040: Thank you sir. It really is the fishery that makes those numbers possible. Quote
Big-O Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 Great Stats Dwight! Just another example of catching the most - of what you target the MOST. Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted November 19, 2012 Super User Posted November 19, 2012 Utterly amazing!! Wow Quote
PABASS Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 Thank you sir. It really is the fishery that makes those numbers possible. Yeah for the gobbies!! 1 Quote
SAC2 Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 all i can really say is thats amazing. my ratio of 5 pounders is probably about 1 in 600. Quote
11justin22 Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 Wow that is mind boggling. Especially for smallmouth. Guess its probably because we don't have smallmouth that get that big around here. But I can't even imagine getting on a largemouth bite like that. I'm guessing reading between the lines that u are a guide? Quote
PABASS Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 Wow that is mind boggling. Especially for smallmouth. Guess its probably because we don't have smallmouth that get that big around here. But I can't even imagine getting on a largemouth bite like that. I'm guessing reading between the lines that u are a guide? Erie PA is known for BIG small mouths, I have read that one reason and probably the main reason is that gobbies were introduced and the smallies took advantage of this in a BIG way. Its been the last 10 or so years from my understanding. Around here if you want a trophy small mouth head to Erie and then apparently to Dwight lol.. Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted December 2, 2012 Author Super User Posted December 2, 2012 Wow that is mind boggling. Especially for smallmouth. Guess its probably because we don't have smallmouth that get that big around here. But I can't even imagine getting on a largemouth bite like that. I'm guessing reading between the lines that u are a guide? No to the guide. Just retired & fish for fun. Quote
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