F150 Eco Boost, Any Feedback?

[backwater4]

My truck was turned into a submarine from Hurricane Sandy, so I'm in the market for a new one. (hopefully) I was wondering if anyone has any experience with the Ford F150 w/ Eco boost. I'm towing a Ranger 461vs. Thanks.

[1234567]

Well they say theres no replacement for displacement but a turbo six is close enough. Sorry I ha have not driven one but it looks good on paper.

[retiredbosn]

The eco boost better work Ford is putting them in every product except the Mustang. I bought a new truck last year, I wanted the eco boost, but there wasn't enough on the road or sold at that time to see how reliable they are. The idea is great, the little V6 makes as much torque as a diesel at lower rpm's. Here is my concern, a naturally aspirated engine has roughly 2psi of air pressure going in the intake, a typical turbo has 4-6psi, the eco boost has 12 psi! The twin turbo engine is running at max performance at all times. For me it is to soon to be able to make an informed decision on the motor. If u know a reputable Ford mechanic ask them how many are coming in for warranty work. There are several forums dedicated to the engine, but I don't know how much stock I put in them. An unhappy customer tells everyone and a happy one seldom tell anyone. I did drive one and liked it allot, just couldn't pull the trigger. I don't want to pay 30+ thousand just to test the engine.

[backwater4]

Thanks for the info. It does sound good, but like you I'm leary. Decisions, decisions.

[aavery2]

I bought a new F150 about three months ago, when everything else was decided I had to choose between the V8 and ECO V6, I drove both, but liked the V8 better, so that is what I went with. I have a buddy in Mo. he has the same truck with the V6, he pulls a 21 FT Triton, and says that he loves it. His gas milelage is better also.

[backwater4]

Great, thanks for the info. I have a couple if months, so I want to be as informed as possible.

[Jake P]

Not trying to jack the thread but are the gains significant in the 6 vs 8?

[clayton86]

The eco boost better work Ford is putting them in every product except the Mustang. I bought a new truck last year, I wanted the eco boost, but there wasn't enough on the road or sold at that time to see how reliable they are. The idea is great, the little V6 makes as much torque as a diesel at lower rpm's. Here is my concern, a naturally aspirated engine has roughly 2psi of air pressure going in the intake, a typical turbo has 4-6psi, the eco boost has 12 psi! The twin turbo engine is running at max performance at all times. For me it is to soon to be able to make an informed decision on the motor. If u know a reputable Ford mechanic ask them how many are coming in for warranty work. There are several forums dedicated to the engine, but I don't know how much stock I put in them. An unhappy customer tells everyone and a happy one seldom tell anyone. I did drive one and liked it allot, just couldn't pull the trigger. I don't want to pay 30+ thousand just to test the engine.

depending on the school of thought NA engines are actually under 14.7psi or 1 bar. Yes most typical turbos in the older mid 90's late 80's jap cars and some dodges ranged from 4-7psi some engine builders/tuners add natural pressure of 14.7psi to come up with 18-21psi total but for ease of what ever ya wanna call it comprehension I guess most people just state the boost created by turbo's or super chargers. Most modern turbo gas engines can handle the higher boost created heck my old 92' Nissan 240sx was running 15psi just fine stock till I tried to go for more with out upgrading injectors oopsie melted a hole in my piston. Diesel engines that are turbo charged its not uncommon to see 30-40psi with some of the hot rodded ones up near 80-100psi.

I don't know much about the eco boost but its probably like 99% of the twin turbo V style engines out there. Its really a "Bi turbo" or "staged" theres a million slang words for it but basically one bank runs a smaller turbo thats quick to spool giving you that low end torque your towing abilities. While that first turbo is spooled up running hot the second larger one is just getting warmed up and spools up later as the smaller one is at its peak and then "shut off" with the bigger one giving you a constant steady boost at your higher cruising RPMs.

Turbo's are nice when all is well you get a good clean burn of your fuel steady pressures better economy less waste. How ever there is the big down side to turbos. They require rebuilds especially if your towing and beating on it, you have to be spot on with your oil changes turbo's are oil cooled for the most part so you get some nasty oil you haven't changed in a while guess what kiss that turbo goodbye also being oil cooled and at extreme heat your oil goes to hell quicker. With that heat its not wise also to just shut the engine down and go inside turbo timers are worth every penny and invaluable in my opinion they keep the engine running at idle allowing the oil to circulate and turbos to cool to a good level and turns the engine off for you I have smoked a few turbos by not having one and have had a few friends as well. Once running timers we haven't had issues other then ones caused else where.

Nothing beats in line engines though in terms of torque yeah some V style engines may put up numbers but they take more to get there its just the simple design of the engine everything in line less resistance more torque hands down.

Personally id buy a dodge with a cummins in it

[backwater4]

Excellent info. Diesel might be a pissiblility also

[retiredbosn]

Nothing beats in line engines though in terms of torque yeah some V style engines may put up numbers but they take more to get there its just the simple design of the engine everything in line less resistance more torque hands down.

Personally id buy a dodge with a cummins in it

Forgot you were a mechanic thanks for the great info.

. A question please. Ford describes this as a parallel turbo, that the turbos work simultaneously and equally providing the required boost. Each turbo has its own exhaust line one for each side, in other words there is a right and left side turbo. One turbo for cylinders on the right (1,3&5?) Another for the left (2,4&6? I have no idea how cylinders are numbered). Would this set up work the same as u previously described?

[clayton86]

I think for numbers there's 123 and 456 and chevy and dodge does the 135 246 but it doesn't mater really. I don't know about the ecoboost specifically but I think the parallel turbo system is the same as I described that's how there new power jokes are uh I mean power choke dang it power stroke there we go lol. If the turbos are two different sizes they work how described. Now if there truely for each bank then that would mean each bank would need its own intake manifold which is odd iv never seen that before. Not saying its impossible but just different I would think it would be bad down the road though if the right turbo goes now the left side of the engine is under pressure and not the right or vice versa.

[retiredbosn]

Powerchoke lol, the trouble Ford had with the second generation powerstroke is one of the reasons I shied away from ecoboost. I really hope it is the real deal though, Ford is betting their future on it. Knowing that Ford was the only American car company that didn't take the bail out money. That fact made me want to buy the Ford, but GM (government motors) have me such a deal.

[clayton86]

I have a Ford though I like Dodge the best when it comes to trucks and suv's with the exception of the Toyota tundra now if I could slap a cummins in a tundra that would be sweet. My sister works at Ford though so we get good deals and Dodge trucks as with the Toyotas are pricey.

[backwater4]

I had the ford, so fiqured I'd look at another. I'm open to all suggestions. My 99 f150 was great. Had the 5.4 tow package etc. Seemed to have lost some pulling power lately though.

[clayton86]

I had the ford, so fiqured I'd look at another. I'm open to all suggestions. My 99 f150 was great. Had the 5.4 tow package etc. Seemed to have lost some pulling power lately though.

probably the #5 plug its a very very very common problem with the 5.4 tritons no joking I probably did 7 or 8 a week when I wrenched. Something bout them 5.4's nd towing the blow the spark plug right out of the head or worse we had a fleet of maybe 10 lumber yard trucks all had that engine or the 7.3 power choke I dont think a day went by i want under the hood of one of them fords.

[Glenn]

I have 2 Ford trucks.

A '99 F-250 with 220,000 miles on it. Bought her new. She runs like a champ and I've had zero problems with her. That said, it just blows me away the new V6 Eco Boost has more HP, more torque, and much better gas mileage than my V-10! That's very impressive. I'm thinking the Eco Boost just might be my next truck.

A 2009 F-450 dually diesel. That baby just flat out hauls! It has the twin turbos, and aside from an initial problem with the wrong factory torque settings on the intake tubes (which caused them to blow off under high pressure), I've had no problems with it whatsoever.

When I'm in the market for a new truck, I'll definitely be checking out the new Fords.

[backwater4]

Glenn, that's exactly what started me on thinking about the Eco boost. I like The F150, so I thought why not another. Then I saw the Eco boost engine and started looking into it. It tows more than my F150 with the 5.4.

Blue, I had just had a tune up and changed a bad coil, but still pulling struggled a bit, not like before. Those back plugs were a pain in the ass. I think the dealer even ripped me off on the first tube up. There was no way that back plug was changed.

[moguy1973]

Watch the Mike Rowe videos on the ecoboost v6. They take an F150 with one and put it through all sorts of tests. Pulling, distance, etc and they even remove the engine and put it in a baja truck and race it in the baja 1000 and it wins its class. Then after all the tests they break down the engine including the turbos and it looks darn near brand new inside. I think they put something like 500k miles on it or something through the tests.

Made my mind up on what I want for a vehicle next.

[clayton86]

Watch the Mike Rowe videos on the ecoboost v6. They take an F150 with one and put it through all sorts of tests. Pulling, distance, etc and they even remove the engine and put it in a baja truck and race it in the baja 1000 and it wins its class. Then after all the tests they break down the engine including the turbos and it looks darn near brand new inside. I think they put something like 500k miles on it or something through the tests.

Made my mind up on what I want for a vehicle next.

Im sure there was a lot of editing and cleaning done to "sell" it you break stuff doing them tests and beating on it. Our pulling engines barely get a mile put on them in a year and there top dollar machines every season get torn down and the look like they have been threw hell and back. Even engines the students run in the shop never see the road maybe get 4 hrs of run time they still get carboned up and need a cleaning.