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I would STRONGLY advise against a Mojo, had a couple gladly no longer have them, one word junk. Save yourself 30-40 bucks get a Shimano Convergence, life time over the counter guarantee, decent rod. A huge improvement over the Mojo. Never had a Veritas can't comment

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thanks for all the responses......looks like i need to look deeper into the bps carbonlite as an option too.........heard mostly posititve things about it on this thread........any negatives?

IMO, I would go to a sporting goods/fishing store and handle both and see which one you like more because I feel like most people's recommendations between these two rods (Mojo and Veritas) will be personal preference. If I was to pick between the two though, I would pick the Mojo. Negatives on the Mojo, it is a bit tip heavy but other than that, for the price, it is a nice rod. Why I would pick it over the Veritas, I don't like the metal screwing component of the reel seat as I feel like it is a little rough on the reel when securing it. Its not going to ruin your reel by any means, but may show a little where its been. Also, I find the trigger to be a little uncomfortable on my fingers after fishing it a while. I have no experience with the Carbonlite but I feel like I have read enough positive reviews about it to say that it would be worth a look. The good thing, from my point of view, is you won't go wrong with any of them.

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I have owned both rods in the past, I prefered the Veritas, I found it more sensitive, and was built with better componets, The Mojo made a good moving baits rod, but for me was tip heavy and lacked sensitivity to fish bottom baits. If you are open to suggestions, I would say look at the Falcon Bucoo, made in the USA and a very good rod in terms of weight, build quality and sensitivity.

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I have owned both rods in the past, I prefered the Veritas, I found it more sensitive, and was built with better componets, The Mojo made a good moving baits rod, but for me was tip heavy and lacked sensitivity to fish bottom baits.

I agree with the sensitivity aspect aavery mentioned. I neglected to mention that I use mine for spinnerbaits and chatterbaits. If I was to get a bottom contact rod between the two, I would go with the Veritas.

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I would STRONGLY advise against a Mojo, had a couple gladly no longer have them, one word junk. Save yourself 30-40 bucks get a Shimano Convergence, life time over the counter guarantee, decent rod. A huge improvement over the Mojo. Never had a Veritas can't comment

LMAO You forgot to put IMO. Because thats all that is. An opinoin. And the only reason you give is a four letter word? Wow. Way to be descriptive. Just another shimano groupie trying to spread the disease.(relax shimanomaniacs...) The last Shimano rod I owned (which was waaaaaay overpriced) was actually "decent". Thats it, just decent. My ugly sticks are decent too. I sold it for less than half the actual cost because I felt thats what it was worth. For $99 you can be the proud owner of a St. Croix rod with a proud American made product (yes I know the mojos are made in Mexico but its better than Asia). Their HQ is in the U.S and ALL St. Croix's are designed in America by American rodmakers. Im not really a one brand guy I just like the American history behind St. Croixs. Too many companies send their manufacturing abroad to increase profits at the cost of quality. All too common and a major problem in this fine country.

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St. Croix Premier 6' M/F I own. Love it! $100 +/- retail

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Wow taking a shot over my bow for a opinion. I'm feeling pretty onery this evening so think I will respond. Thanks :eyebrows:

Best rods Ive even owned/used.

I would suggest getting your hands on a few more rods then.

LMAO You forgot to put IMO. Because thats all that is. An opinoin. And the only reason you give is a four letter word? Wow. Way to be descriptive. Just another shimano groupie trying to spread the disease.(relax shimanomaniacs...) The last Shimano rod I owned (which was waaaaaay overpriced) was actually "decent". Thats it, just decent. My ugly sticks are decent too. I sold it for less than half the actual cost because I felt thats what it was worth. For $99 you can be the proud owner of a St. Croix rod with a proud American made product (yes I know the mojos are made in Mexico but its better than Asia). Their HQ is in the U.S and ALL St. Croix's are designed in America by American rodmakers. Im not really a one brand guy I just like the American history behind St. Croixs. Too many companies send their manufacturing abroad to increase profits at the cost of quality. All too common and a major problem in this fine country.

I'm not a Shimano groupie :punch-2: , them's fightin words lol. Just ask Gambler don't think he issued me a card for the possee. In my boat I carry rod wise Quantum Tour PT's , KVD PT, BPS Crankin Stick, Diawa Procyon, Shimano Convergence and a Dick's Field and Stream Tech Spec.As far as the Mojo, St Croix should drop that line IMO as they do nothing positive for the brand. They are dead sticks, tip heavy, craftsmanship leaves a lot to be desired, hardly get the guides on straight or inline, the finish is sloppy, the reel seat doesn't even touch the blank until it is at the opening where you can lay your finger on it, additionally the glue used to affix it looks likes and feels likes silicone glue, which is typically offcenter. Reel wise I have more BPS PQ's than anything. I recommended the Convergence as it is in the price range, something goes wrong you take it back to the dealer no shipping it anywhere and absorbing that cost, it is much more sensitive than the Mojo and is balanced better. St Croix's are assembled in America, with parts that are mainly if not entirely made in Asia, no more American made than the Chevy Malibu or Ford Focus made in Canada and Mexico respectively. Ask Bass Pro what blanks are used for the Extreme Rods, the same as St. Croix Premier. I do agree you should buy American trouble is in today's global market its nearly impossible.

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Wow taking a shot over my bow for a opinion. I'm feeling pretty onery this evening so think I will respond. Thanks :eyebrows:

I would suggest getting your hands on a few more rods then.

I'm not a Shimano groupie :punch-2: , them's fightin words lol. Just ask Gambler don't think he issued me a card for the possee. In my boat I carry rod wise Quantum Tour PT's , KVD PT, BPS Crankin Stick, Diawa Procyon, Shimano Convergence and a Dick's Field and Stream Tech Spec.As far as the Mojo, St Croix should drop that line IMO as they do nothing positive for the brand. They are dead sticks, tip heavy, craftsmanship leaves a lot to be desired, hardly get the guides on straight or inline, the finish is sloppy, the reel seat doesn't even touch the blank until it is at the opening where you can lay your finger on it, additionally the glue used to affix it looks likes and feels likes silicone glue, which is typically offcenter. Reel wise I have more BPS PQ's than anything. I recommended the Convergence as it is in the price range, something goes wrong you take it back to the dealer no shipping it anywhere and absorbing that cost, it is much more sensitive than the Mojo and is balanced better. St Croix's are assembled in America, with parts that are mainly if not entirely made in Asia, no more American made than the Chevy Malibu or Ford Focus made in Canada and Mexico respectively. Ask Bass Pro what blanks are used for the Extreme Rods, the same as St. Croix Premier. I do agree you should buy American trouble is in today's global market its nearly impossible.

I literally just examined my rod closely for everything you just mentioned. Not sure what you mean by dead stick...but I dont notice any tip imbalance AT ALL. I have a Quantum Tour Edition on it that works like a dream. The eyes are ALL perfectly straight and centered (if you read on St. Croixs site how they are affixted to the rod you would know its nearly impossible to get it wrong) and the black cherry finish is absolutely flawless and awesome when the sun hits it! Im not sure (again) what your problem is with the fuji reel seat but mine has NONE of the issues you mentioned. Silicone??? Where??? Again, perfectly centered and inline with eyes. The first thing that caught my eye was the awesome finish and overall design and craftmanship of the rod. Not sure where the heck your getting your rods from but it sounds like they are buying factory rejects and riping you off. Got mine from Dick's and tackledirect.com.

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It really feels like people expect way too much for a 100$ rod.

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I've gotta agree with unionman. I love everything about my mojo. The only flaw is the scratch that I put on it because I'm a moron and got mad while holding a knife.

A lot of fishing is about confidence. If you pick up a rod you're excited about, you give it a better chance. You'll fish it longer and harder. If you pick up a rod you don't have so much confidence in, you'll fish it faster and be quicker to dismiss it.

I have not touched a Veritas but I can vouch that the Mojo, Carbonlite and even the old Vendetta are good rods. I have not touched the newer Vendetta.

You've gotta pick one up to determine it.

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It really feels like people expect way too much for a 100$ rod.

Yours doesn't call fish out of the water like mine???

  • Super User
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Wow taking a shot over my bow for a opinion. I'm feeling pretty onery this evening so think I will respond. Thanks :eyebrows:

I would suggest getting your hands on a few more rods then.

I'm not a Shimano groupie :punch-2: , them's fightin words lol. Just ask Gambler don't think he issued me a card for the possee. In my boat I carry rod wise Quantum Tour PT's , KVD PT, BPS Crankin Stick, Diawa Procyon, Shimano Convergence and a Dick's Field and Stream Tech Spec.As far as the Mojo, St Croix should drop that line IMO as they do nothing positive for the brand. They are dead sticks, tip heavy, craftsmanship leaves a lot to be desired, hardly get the guides on straight or inline, the finish is sloppy, the reel seat doesn't even touch the blank until it is at the opening where you can lay your finger on it, additionally the glue used to affix it looks likes and feels likes silicone glue, which is typically offcenter. Reel wise I have more BPS PQ's than anything. I recommended the Convergence as it is in the price range, something goes wrong you take it back to the dealer no shipping it anywhere and absorbing that cost, it is much more sensitive than the Mojo and is balanced better. St Croix's are assembled in America, with parts that are mainly if not entirely made in Asia, no more American made than the Chevy Malibu or Ford Focus made in Canada and Mexico respectively. Ask Bass Pro what blanks are used for the Extreme Rods, the same as St. Croix Premier. I do agree you should buy American trouble is in today's global market its nearly impossible.

100% Talking out your rear end.................like you usually do. I have seen boat loads of Mojo rods, as every sporting goods store around has racks of them, never seen any of the issues you describe, they must have magicly all been sent to your area. These disscussions all ways turn into this, and ususally there is the one post where someone gets off the chart stupid..........congrats, you made that post.

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100% Talking out your rear end.................like you usually do... there is the one post where someone gets off the chart stupid..........congrats, you made that post.

Sounds like you haven't done to bad yourself......lol

Hootie

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I do what I can to maintain status quo.

  • Super User
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Remove the reel seat tension nut (that little thing you twist to hold the reel in place), look into the reel seat, where the rid goes in is where you'll see the resin that looks like silicone. Both of mine had one huge glob on one side, that is what killed the sensitivity of the rod.

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Veritas hands down against the mojo. They are lighter, crisper and IMO are just a better product.

mike D

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The one point that continues to be missed here is one of the most critical in deciding which rod you should consider. Unless you take your actual reel or at least get one from the reel counter to mount onto the various rods you are choosing, you are just shooting in the dark and hoping for a good match.

Your "feel" for agiven rod will undoubtedly be different than someone elses. While personal preference and experience lend itself to the opinions and suggestions so far, all we can do as a collective group is provide insight and experience. It takes a careful touch to convey that information without flaming one brand over another.

Do yourself a favor, take your reel spooled up with the line you are going to use and install it on the various rods and see which one feels the best. Once you have it narrowed down to 2-3 choices, then test the sensitivity of the rod and reel together. Ask the attendant or your fishing buddy/spouse to come with you and have them place the rod tip against their vocal cords and speak softly. If you can't feel the vibrations, then have that person speak a little louder until you can feel it. Now switch to the other rod and repeat until you have a clear picture in your mind which rod was the most sensitive.

Once you have your various attributes checked off, the rod of choice should be a clear decision at that point. If you still are at an impass, then default to the other standard criteria of: warranty, customer service past experiences, price point and rod length.

Hope this helps!

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I will take all of the "hated" Mojo's off peoples hands that want to get rid of them.

 

 

my thoughts exactly very solid rods

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*** *** black will solve all your problems :) its a very nice rod in that price range.

If I had to choose id take the veritas over the mojo fwiw.

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