Filppin & Pitchin Rod?

[Mike L]

I pitch with every single rod in my arsenal. It's just a cast. Learn to pitch with all your rods, and you will see what a handy skill it is. Especially if you're in the back of the boat.

X2..ESPECIALLY from the back.

Most times it's just a pain fishing from the back in tourn. but you learn so much more fishing from back there.

You have to think and do things that most times you don't bother with in the front.

Pitching with everything you have is just one.

Mike

[Bassn Blvd]

I can see using that much weight in Florida in the grass, but where I am from we can typically get by with 3/4oz to 1oz. and often flip baits that are much lighter. Anyway I can respect your opinion, guess it just depends on where and how you are fishing.

I looked through the posts but did not see where your recommendations were. Please share.

LOL, I'm in the same boat as the OP. I'm looking for another flippin' rod. I currently use a G Loomis Mossyback BCFR893, 7'5, fast action, rated 14-20 pound line, which is too small for serious flippin' here in S. Florida. I use an 8', heavy, 15-30, 3/8-2oz class when flipping lake Okeechobee or everglades, but the rod weighs a ton.

I narrowed my search down to 3 choices. Dobyn's (which i've never used before), G Loomis or have one built, which I'm leaning more towards. I want 7'8- 7'11, 15-30 pound class with recoil guides that are on my NRX.

[SoFlaBassAddict]

DX 795 Doug. Or just go custom. Knowing the gear you already have though, custom would probably be the better fit for you.

[Bassn Blvd]

Thanks Eric. I've been meaning to call you so I could get the model number on your Dobyns. Let's get together and hit the lake, pit or lox. I'm on vacation this week.

[aavery2]

LOL, I'm in the same boat as the OP. I'm looking for another flippin' rod. I currently use a G Loomis Mossyback BCFR893, 7'5, fast action, rated 14-20 pound line, which is too small for serious flippin' here in S. Florida. I use an 8', heavy, 15-30, 3/8-2oz class when flipping lake Okeechobee or everglades, but the rod weighs a ton.

I narrowed my search down to 3 choices. Dobyn's (which i've never used before), G Loomis or have one built, which I'm leaning more towards. I want 7'8- 7'11, 15-30 pound class with recoil guides that are on my NRX.

That makes for a tough choice, the G loomis will be lighter, and in my hands I find the GLX series and the Dobyns DX close on sensetivity, the NRX as you know is the next level. Dobyns has great balance, so even though the rods weigh a little more it is not as noticeable, if price were no concern and I only wanted the best, I would do as you say and have a custom built on a loomis blank if you can find a good one.

What reel you thinking about, maybe it makes a difference in the equation.

[SoFlaBassAddict]

Thanks Eric. I've been meaning to call you so I could get the model number on your Dobyns. Let's get together and hit the lake, pit or lox. I'm on vacation this week.

I'll check my schedule. I should be free towards the later part of the week.

[Mike__D]

Money being no object, I'd be looking JDM rod. Megabass or Evergreen!!!

mike d

[HOIST-N-HAWGS]

Im one of those guys that thinks theres a fair bit of diminishing returns in fishing rods/reels after a certain dollar amount. For me thats been right around 200 dollars.

That being said I really want to try a *** *** Black and the new Recon 2 and M1 rods by Phenix!

I bought Kistler's new KLX Grass punchin stump grinding 7'3" XH, one of the nicest rods I've ever used! If I I was looking for another open water rod it would, without a doubt, rank among the best. Unfortunately, it's not what the name projects, and IMO...they need to change the the name. The tip is way to soft and is more of an open water rod. Thankfully, Kistler is very understanding and is accepting the rod back, in addition to covering the shipping.

I've ben filp flopping between the Phenix Super Classic Flipping Rods 7'6" Med Hvy and the Cashion Flipping Rod 7'6" Heavy. I couldn't make up my mind sooooo, I ordered them both.

Prior to ordering I spoke with Phenix regarding their new M1 series. Their recommendation; "If you're looking for a pure flippin stick then go with the Super Classic Flipping Rod, if you're fishing open water then our M1 series is the ticket."

My interest in the Cashion flippin stick came from their carbon fiber grips, promotional video with Hank Cherry, and reading about the rods construction process.

"Cashion Blanks are constructed of high grade carbon fiber and manufactured by a uni-directional process, which ensures the carbon fiber runs perfectly straight from the butt to the tip. The uni-direction carbon fiber does not wrap or twist as it travels the blank, ensuring the carbon fiber is aligned at 0° without rotation. The uni-direction process ensures Cashion Blanks are extremely strong because the rod will not twist under load. Plus, vibrations have a straight path down the blank to your finger tips providing astonishing sensitivity."

Besides the above, I wouldn't mind throwing some of east coast builders some cash and support for a change.

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[sarcazmo]

I bought Kistler's new KLX Grass punchin stump grinding 7'3" XH, one of the nicest rods I've ever used! If I I was looking for another open water rod it would, without a doubt, rank among the best. Unfortunately, it's not what the name projects, and IMO...they need to change the the name. The tip is way to soft and is more of an open water rod. Thankfully, Kistler is very understanding and is accepting the rod back, in addition to covering the shipping.

I've ben filp flopping between the Phenix Super Classic Flipping Rods 7'6" Med Hvy and the Cashion Flipping Rod 7'6" Heavy. I couldn't make up my mind sooooo, I ordered them both.

Prior to ordering I spoke with Phenix regarding their new M1 series. Their recommendation; "If you're looking for a pure flippin stick then go with the Super Classic Flipping Rod, if you're fishing open water then our M1 series is the ticket."

My interest in the Cashion flippin stick came from their carbon fiber grips, promotional video with Hank Cherry, and reading about the rods construction process.

"Cashion Blanks are constructed of high grade carbon fiber and manufactured by a uni-directional process, which ensures the carbon fiber runs perfectly straight from the butt to the tip. The uni-direction carbon fiber does not wrap or twist as it travels the blank, ensuring the carbon fiber is aligned at 0° without rotation. The uni-direction process ensures Cashion Blanks are extremely strong because the rod will not twist under load. Plus, vibrations have a straight path down the blank to your finger tips providing astonishing sensitivity."

Besides the above, I wouldn't mind throwing some of east coast builders some cash and support for a change.

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I've also been super curious about the klx. They seem to be an amazing value. I read some things regarding Kistler ideology and cs but it seems whatever the issues were have passed.

Next rods on my list are the 13 *** service es and klx.

[Sam]

Any one of these:

Item # Model Length Handle Pieces Line Weight Lure Weight Action Power Price 12131-01 GLX 892C FPR 7' 5" A 1 12 - 17 3/16 - 5/8 Fast Medium $455.00 12132-01 GLX 893C FPR 7' 5" A 1 14 - 20 1/4 - 3/4 Fast Med-Heavy $455.00 12133-01 GLX 894C FPR 7' 5" A 1 17 - 25 1/4 - 1 Fast Heavy $465.00 12134-01 GLX 895C FPR 7' 5" A 1 20-25 3/8 - 1 1/4 Fast Ex-Heavy $465.00 12135-01 GLX 896C FPR 7' 5" A 1 20 - 30 1/2 - 1 1/2 Fast Ex-Heavy $465.00 12136-01 GLX 953C FPR 7' 11" A 1 15 - 20 1/4 - 1 Fast Med-Heavy

$465.00

[Sam]

All of the above are from G. Loomis.

Check 'em out.

[Hooligan]

Contrary to popular opinion a longer rod does not make an advantage in landing and fighting fish. A shorter rod gives you more leverage against a fish in straight line pull. A longer rod gives the fish more leverage to fight against you.

Just food for thought.

[J Francho]

A longer rod gives the fish more leverage to fight against you.

Sometimes that helps. This isn't bass fishing, but demonstrates the theory to an extreme: I use up to 15' rods to fish for steelhead and salmon. Yes, they can get leverage, but they don't gain an edge. They can swing 30 feet in either direction or even charge straight at you (they often do) and you still maintain pressure on them. Less reeling, more fighting.

That said, this past summer I spent a lot of time with Loomis 6-8 MH jig and worm rod, and really got to appreciate what a shorter, yet powerful stick can offer in many situations. Easier to handle, less wieldy in tight quarters, and you can really put the screws to them in the weeds when you've hooked one on a "short leash."

[Hooligan]

Sometimes that helps. This isn't bass fishing, but demonstrates the theory to an extreme: I use up to 15' rods to fish for steelhead and salmon. Yes, they can get leverage, but they don't gain an edge. They can swing 30 feet in either direction or even charge straight at you (they often do) and you still maintain pressure on them. Less reeling, more fighting.

That said, this past summer I spent a lot of time with Loomis 6-8 MH jig and worm rod, and really got to appreciate what a shorter, yet powerful stick can offer in many situations. Easier to handle, less wieldy in tight quarters, and you can really put the screws to them in the weeds when you've hooked one on a "short leash."

Very true in perspective. It goes to further alliterate what it was that I was getting at. Longer isn't always better, and shorter isn't always either. There are advantages to both. The original post here that it was directed at has been edited, so it was a general statement.

[HOIST-N-HAWGS]

I've also been super curious about the klx. They seem to be an amazing value. I read some things regarding Kistler ideology and cs but it seems whatever the issues were have passed.

Next rods on my list are the 13 *** service es and klx.

I kept the KLX, to nice of a rod not to. Also kept the Cashion, returned the Phenix super flipper. The Cashion is exactly what I was looking for and definitely the most sensitive rod I've ever fished., Every little bump, pebble, grass ect is directly tramsitted to your hand.

The carbon fiber grips are outstanding! The micro's on the KLX are a notch above the Cashion, The KLX is definitely the lighter of the two rods but, not by much

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The Cashion has more back bone with a slow tip. Like I said, exactly what I was looking for. They'll soon be more of both rods in my arsenal.

[HOIST-N-HAWGS]

Any one of these:

Item # Model Length Handle Pieces Line Weight Lure Weight Action Power Price 12131-01 GLX 892C FPR 7' 5" A 1 12 - 17 3/16 - 5/8 Fast Medium $455.00 12132-01 GLX 893C FPR 7' 5" A 1 14 - 20 1/4 - 3/4 Fast Med-Heavy $455.00 12133-01 GLX 894C FPR 7' 5" A 1 17 - 25 1/4 - 1 Fast Heavy $465.00 12134-01 GLX 895C FPR 7' 5" A 1 20-25 3/8 - 1 1/4 Fast Ex-Heavy $465.00 12135-01 GLX 896C FPR 7' 5" A 1 20 - 30 1/2 - 1 1/2 Fast Ex-Heavy $465.00 12136-01 GLX 953C FPR 7' 11" A 1 15 - 20 1/4 - 1 Fast Med-Heavy

$465.00

IMO, there's no need to spend $4 to $5 bills on a flipper, or any other rod for that matter.

[HOIST-N-HAWGS]

Contrary to popular opinion a longer rod does not make an advantage in landing and fighting fish. A shorter rod gives you more leverage against a fish in straight line pull. A longer rod gives the fish more leverage to fight against you.

Just food for thought.

A longer flippin stick gives me the ability to stay a bit further away, not spooking the fish, in addition to offering a quieter entry to the water. In my experience the longer rods also offer a quicker hook set.

[sarcazmo]

Hmmm looks like I'll have to add cashion to the short list!

[Mike__D]

Money being no object, I'd be looking JDM rod. Megabass or Evergreen!!!

mike d

As an update to my previous post - I recently picked up a Megabass Orochi X4 Destruction rod. Not sure what I will be using it for but it is rated anywhere from 3/8 to 3 1/4 ounces so I guess pretty much anything.

Mike D

[DINK WHISPERER]

Shimano Cumara 7' 7" H/F, or if u did decide to go larger the new Cumara 7' 11" H/XF....

[ChiCityBasser]

I have 2 flipping and pitching rods with one being a Quantum Super Lite/Light (depending on where you look) and it is a 7' 11" Telescopic H/F rated for 1/2oz-2oz and weighing 6.2oz. Picked it up off ebay for less than $70. My other rod is a Tec Spec 7'6" Telescopic MH/EF rated for 1/4oz-1oz for $60 from Dick's. I know neither rod is a high end rod but both serve the purpose very very well.

[HOIST-N-HAWGS]

I'm addicted to the Cashion. I've since added 3 more Cashion's to my arsenal.  I can feel nanoplankton crawling over my jigs! LOL