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John/Dwight/Matt,

Thanks for your positive comments.

Skeletor,

The Hawg Handle is 94mm long and weighs 26grams. The stock curado 50e handle is 80mm long and (I believe) weighs about 32grams (interpolating.....curado 200E handle is 84mm and 34.5grams)

Carbon fiber allows you to go longer while reducing weight. Its true that speed is unchanged (IPT remains unchanged) but the amount of effort required to achieve that speed is much less. So to many, the CF handle "feels" faster.

Virtually 100% of the people using our handle have responded favorably to the added length. The longer length really helps with fatique and the length/cork grips really help your hand stay engaged when a big fish slams your bait. Steve Daniel (elite series pro, and top Okeechobee guide) commented to this in our interview with him a couple weeks ago. I can post up the link to that later.

Thank you for the comparisons in weight and length. Being longer and saving weight is nice. I appreciate the information.

The added length would cause a greater diameter of the circle that is made in the revolution of the handle. So in theory it would take a greater distance to complete a revolution therefore it would be slower. In practice I do not think it will make a difference and actually would be more comfortable. The size of the spool and gear ratio are the main factors that effect speed or line pickup (ipt)

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WOW.... The longer the handle the faster the retrieve. Think of how bicycle gears work.

False. Bicycle gears are.. um... gears. Handle length would be more like the length of the pedals.

(IPT remains unchanged) but the amount of effort required to achieve that speed is much less. So to many, the CF handle "feels" faster.

This^^ makes sense, this is torque. T=F*R. The longer handle® torques the axis more, causing less effort(F) to turn the handle.

BUT, the longer handle slows the rate at which you can turn the reel down, effectively slowing the reel down. Think of it like inches your hand moves per1 full rotation of the handle. The longer the handle, the more inches your hand has to travel. When you work it out, you have to turn your hand 502mm with the stock handle, and 590mm with the longer handle.

When it all gets down to it though, ~90mm isn't going to slow you down that much at all, and the advantages of the greater torque on the central axis probably overcomes the slight increase in distance.

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True, not only do you get the benefit of increased torque, but also decreased weight and improved smoothness (cnc tolerances/4 stainless steel bearings). In terms of just pure "speed" its probably a wash for most people (somewhat dependant upon physicality). But in terms of power, weight, and smoothness, the cf handle wins easily.

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Longer handles are generally used for increasing leverage and torque. For me this would be deeper cranks or bigger spinnerbaits. For most other techniques standard handle legnths suffice just fine.

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Moderator Edit:

Simmer down now. There is no reason to get nasty.

The last two posts have been removed.

-Kent a.k.a. roadwarrior

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Back to the OPs (my) original thread... Which is about 50e upgrades...

Thank you for all the helpful posts and no thanks to the last page and a half of junk.

Thanks for the PM as well DVT, I'll be contacting you soon,

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