Super User Long Mike Posted October 23, 2012 Super User Posted October 23, 2012 I have four Patriarch baitcasters and will soon be in the market for two more. All four of my spinning rigs are Pfleuger Presidents. I don't own a Shimano and never will. Shimano probably makes good stuff, but I've found the reels I love and will stick with them. 1 Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted October 23, 2012 Super User Posted October 23, 2012 In case you haven't read tackletour's review of the Patriarch. http://www.tackletour.com/reviewpfluegerpatriarch.html Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 23, 2012 Super User Posted October 23, 2012 I have four Patriarch baitcasters and will soon be in the market for two more. All four of my spinning rigs are Pfleuger Presidents. I don't own a Shimano and never will. Shimano probably makes good stuff, but I've found the reels I love and will stick with them. He wouldn't even fish mine when his was busted! Quote
jignfule Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 The Plueger is an excellent reel, but compare to the Shimano in comes in a close second. IMO Quote
bass1980 Posted October 23, 2012 Author Posted October 23, 2012 Higher cost does not ensure better quality. What makes you feel the E series is not as good as the older series? I'm sorry guys, the Curado is a G series. I think I had typed E series. It probably wouldn't matter on people's opinion anways. I was looking at it from a value stand point. A top of the line Pflueger for half price, and still new. If the reel is not a total bust and still near the top of it's class then this is probably a great deal too. However the Curado G with still relatively new, is also a great deal at $100. I think I'm going to get the curado and hope to sell some things off to get the Pflueger too!!! Thanks fro the many response. Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted October 23, 2012 Super User Posted October 23, 2012 He wouldn't even fish mine when his was busted! And your didn't bust under the same scenarios? Hmm..... Jeff Quote
Super User Long Mike Posted October 24, 2012 Super User Posted October 24, 2012 And your didn't bust under the same scenarios? Hmm..... Jeff Hey Numb Muts, it was a problem with my line, not with my reel. Operator error. Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted October 24, 2012 Super User Posted October 24, 2012 Hey Numb Muts, it was a problem with my line, not with my reel. Operator error. Oooohh. Testy testy in your defense of your floppy-doppy-doo. Jeff Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted October 24, 2012 Super User Posted October 24, 2012 Once you start talking about quality reels (lets say $100 or more form reference) you really can't go wrong with many of today's reels. The differences lie in personal preference and intended techniques used. Does one reel out last the other? Does one cast further than the other? These are questions that are difficult to measure. Is one reel lighter than the other? Does one feel more comfortable than the other? Is the retrieve any smoother? These are things that can be measured but also boil down to individual angler preference. If you have access to a tackle shop where the reels can be compared side by side, I would highly suggest this. Figure out which reel YOU prefer and DONT be swayed but others opinions. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 24, 2012 Super User Posted October 24, 2012 Figure out which reel YOU prefer and DONT be swayed but others opinions. Well, "right out of the box" doesn't really tell you much, most reels feel pretty good new, The advice of our membership is a much better guide, although it can be confusing and contradictory. The equipment I use has a history of proven performance: Smooth, strong, silent and reliant. I have been fishing many of my reels for more than a decade. These reels perform better today than the day I took them out of the box. 1 Quote
Super User LgMouthGambler Posted October 24, 2012 Super User Posted October 24, 2012 Well, "right out of the box" doesn't really tell you much, most reels feel pretty good new, The advice of our membership is a much better guide, although it can be confusing and contradictory. The equipment I use has a history of proven performance: Smooth, strong, silent and reliant. I have been fishing many of my reels for more than a decade. These reels perform better today than the day I took them out of the box. I wonder what brand that is? Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 24, 2012 Super User Posted October 24, 2012 WARNING! Get your next punch in before the page runs out...Irene is warming up! Quote
Super User LgMouthGambler Posted October 24, 2012 Super User Posted October 24, 2012 WARNING! Get your next punch in before the page runs out...Irene is warming up! Lol. Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted October 24, 2012 Super User Posted October 24, 2012 Well, "right out of the box" doesn't really tell you much, most reels feel pretty good new, The advice of our membership is a much better guide, although it can be confusing and contradictory. The equipment I use has a history of proven performance: Smooth, strong, silent and reliant. I have been fishing many of my reels for more than a decade. These reels perform better today than the day I took them out of the box. I agree that smoothness can diminish over time. The point of my post was for the OP to make his own decision without feeling like he has to get what a few "strong voices" suggest. I am partial to shimano and Daiwa, but have fished many other brands and can relate to the decision making process. Basically for $100-$150 you can gets a great reel today with very minor differences among manufacturers. If he could put the reels he is considering on the intended rod he plans to use it with he can gauge for how it feels and palms and what feels more comfortable. RW... I very much see where you are coming from but by reading the responses on this board lately, you would think that your only options are an Abu or Shimano. There alot of guys out there using BPS, Daiwa, Lews, Okuma, etc... that are very happy with the product. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted October 24, 2012 Super User Posted October 24, 2012 I would like to get Pinnacle into the mix, too! http://www.bassresource.com/fishing_lures/pinnacle-optimus-xlt-dhc-review.html Quote
Super User tomustang Posted October 24, 2012 Super User Posted October 24, 2012 Best way to do it is get both. Buy from the local guy. Tell your friend you're interested in the reel and try to do payments on it. Quote
Super User Long Mike Posted October 25, 2012 Super User Posted October 25, 2012 The problem with this forum is that there are four or five guys who continually try to shove Shimano down everyone's throat while knowing that there are a number of other options available, equally as good, or better. 2 Quote
Super User LgMouthGambler Posted October 25, 2012 Super User Posted October 25, 2012 This thread was Shimano or Pflueger, right? So, what is the other option here other than............. I think there were some other companies mentioned, just saying. If it was that more people on here fished Abu, then it would be another story. We that fish Shimano know how good they really are, you cant blame us for that. Quote
Super User Long Mike Posted October 25, 2012 Super User Posted October 25, 2012 My comment was off-topic. I was talking about this Forum in general. My apologies. Quote
Super User LgMouthGambler Posted October 25, 2012 Super User Posted October 25, 2012 Oh, OK. No problem. Quote
PaddleOut Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 I have both. If the Curado is an "E" series get it. The only thing I like about the Patriarch is how smooth it retrieves. It doesn't cast as far as the old Presidents imo. However, the Curado has light spool that helps casting light lures. It's pretty dependable. I guess I'm turning into a Shimanoite myself. I bought 3 Citica 200E's on clearance. It's just a good bass reel. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted October 26, 2012 Super User Posted October 26, 2012 The problem with this forum is that there are four or five guys who continually try to shove Shimano down everyone's throat while knowing that there are a number of other options available, equally as good, or better. I'd go and tell a moderator about this, wait it would probably end up in your own inbox Quote
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