ghost Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 When I buy new rod, I always check to make sure everything on it is perfect. components are good, eyelits are straight and not bent, rod is the straightest with no slight bends on the shaft. So I ordered a new rod online and received it yesterday. upon insoection, the rod shaft has a slight bendbythe top. Will thsmake anydifferencehowtherod perform? Or will this slight bend eventually fail and snap? The rod seems good, it's just that slight bend thats bugging me. should I keep or return? Quote
BenBassmaster Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 I would want a replacement, you never know what will happen overtime to a rod after continuous use. Quote
Global Moderator Mike L Posted October 10, 2012 Global Moderator Posted October 10, 2012 I know a lot of folks who buy on line with no problems...I'm not one of them for that very reason. I'd send it back. Mike Quote
BASSHUNTER1961 Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 This is why I never buy a rod online. The bend may get worse with time, or even fail. It may also last forever, but I would send it back immediately for a refund, and buy locally where you can handle the rod and make sure it meets your requirements. You will always have doubt in your mind, and you will never get past it. Send it back. 1 Quote
Super User LgMouthGambler Posted October 10, 2012 Super User Posted October 10, 2012 This is why I wont buy reels or rods online. It has to be inspected thuroughly before purchase. Quote
dam0007 Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 All rods have a slight bend on the spine in the blank. When its assembled the rod should bend opposite of the guides. When you buy something that's mass produced in a factory in some sweatshop overseas, your rod is usually the end result. Some custom rod builders may say with newer technology worrying about the curve is a thing of the past. But if it is a thing of the past then why don't we see this problem on let's say a st croix rod. Assembling a rod give or take a few steps...: Locate bend Align reel seat facing up bend facing down Align guides to reel seat Quote
Super User S Hovanec Posted October 10, 2012 Super User Posted October 10, 2012 Every blank I've ever built on had a slight bend and it's not necessarily located on the spine of the rod. Only once did I reject a blank due to the curve, and that was because it changed directions 3 different times in the tip section. Most manufacturers build on the straightest axis, as do I. It's difficult to detect the curve in that orientation. I always position the curve so that the tip is up. Let me also add that I would NEVER buy a rod off the shelf in a store. I've seen how they are shipped, handled by employees and customers. If an 'over the counter' rod fails, you can bet that it was damaged before you ever bought it. Quote
TNBassin' Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 Let me also add that I would NEVER buy a rod off the shelf in a store. I've seen how they are shipped, handled by employees and customers. If an 'over the counter' rod fails, you can bet that it was damaged before you ever bought it. This is why I don't buy any rods from BPS, and if I do, I ask if they have any stock in the back. Some of their rods are just so beat up, nicked up, scratched up, that I just can't bring myself to pay full retail for a rod that isn't in top condition. I use rod socks to prevent such damage. I will also say that I recently ordered 2 Veritas rods from Walmart.com, one for myself and one for my girl friend, and both were of poor quality. Mine had cracked guide epoxy along with the tip and one guide horrible misaligned on the blank. Her rod had black streaks near the mid section of the rod where it was gouged with something then expoxyed over during manufacturing. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 Every blank I've ever built on had a slight bend and it's not necessarily located on the spine of the rod. Only once did I reject a blank due to the curve, and that was because it changed directions 3 different times in the tip section. Most manufacturers build on the straightest axis, as do I. It's difficult to detect the curve in that orientation. I always position the curve so that the tip is up. Let me also add that I would NEVER buy a rod off the shelf in a store. I've seen how they are shipped, handled by employees and customers. If an 'over the counter' rod fails, you can bet that it was damaged before you ever bought it. x2 100% spot on! Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted October 11, 2012 Super User Posted October 11, 2012 I agree with basshunter, never buy a rod on line, I don't care who makes it. From my experience I bought 2 on line, they were absolutely perfect, but did not live up to my expectations. It was easy enough to return but a hassle I didn't care to deal with. I just kept the other rod and never use it. I buy mainly 2 brands off the shelf, 1 know is foreign made, neither brand has ever given me trouble or broke. These are inshore rods that handle hefty fish on a daily basis. Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted October 11, 2012 Super User Posted October 11, 2012 This is why I don't buy any rods from BPS, and if I do, I ask if they have any stock in the back. Some of their rods are just so beat up, nicked up, scratched up, that I just can't bring myself to pay full retail for a rod that isn't in top condition. I use rod socks to prevent such damage. I will also say that I recently ordered 2 Veritas rods from Walmart.com, one for myself and one for my girl friend, and both were of poor quality. Mine had cracked guide epoxy along with the tip and one guide horrible misaligned on the blank. Her rod had black streaks near the mid section of the rod where it was gouged with something then expoxyed over during manufacturing. With your luck on rods man, I'm still glad you like the Abu line. I guess I have been lucky. I use a dealer off eBay that has all the rods in the back except for the display models. They ship in a PVC pipe with padding. I have 4 total from this seller and all were 100% perfect. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted October 11, 2012 Super User Posted October 11, 2012 In all fairness I'm in an area where it's pretty easy to buy over the counter, I can even buy a Loomis at 6 am. Quote
TNBassin' Posted October 11, 2012 Posted October 11, 2012 With your luck on rods man, I'm still glad you like the Abu line. I guess I have been lucky. I use a dealer off eBay that has all the rods in the back except for the display models. They ship in a PVC pipe with padding. I have 4 total from this seller and all were 100% perfect. I've fished Abus for years, and this the first year I've had any issues. Quote
Super User .RM. Posted October 11, 2012 Super User Posted October 11, 2012 Every blank I've ever built on had a slight bend and it's not necessarily located on the spine of the rod. Only once did I reject a blank due to the curve, and that was because it changed directions 3 different times in the tip section. Most manufacturers build on the straightest axis, as do I. It's difficult to detect the curve in that orientation. I always position the curve so that the tip is up. Let me also add that I would NEVER buy a rod off the shelf in a store. I've seen how they are shipped, handled by employees and customers. If an 'over the counter' rod fails, you can bet that it was damaged before you ever bought it. X3 like stated spot on! Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted October 11, 2012 Super User Posted October 11, 2012 Every blank I've ever built on had a slight bend and it's not necessarily located on the spine of the rod. Only once did I reject a blank due to the curve, and that was because it changed directions 3 different times in the tip section. Most manufacturers build on the straightest axis, as do I. It's difficult to detect the curve in that orientation. I always position the curve so that the tip is up. Let me also add that I would NEVER buy a rod off the shelf in a store. I've seen how they are shipped, handled by employees and customers. If an 'over the counter' rod fails, you can bet that it was damaged before you ever bought it. x2 100% spot on! X3 like stated spot on! Three rod builders have spoken. These guys must know something. Quote
Loop_Dad Posted October 12, 2012 Posted October 12, 2012 Sounds like folks are more careful than me about buying rods. I don't have a big store near by. Out of 4 rods I bought this year, only one was from the local store. I have checked rods upon receipt and they all looked fine (so far ). One of them broke when I was fishing. There was a BPS near where I was fishing, so I stopped by on the way back home, only to find out that they do not honor Shimano's over the counter replacement warranty, which was a surprise. I went to the local store and they replaced it with no hassle. The rod broken happened to be the one I bought from them, but they didn't even ask for the receipt. Quote
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