What Kind Of Jig To Use

[MIbassin]

hey everyone!

I've watched all the videos on jigs and one thing is unclear,what kind of jig should i use for SUBMERGED weeds and what weight , I'm not talking about flipping.

i know i mention it a lot but the lakes i fish are mainly 99 percent submerged weeds

thanks!

[Arv]

Arkie or Alien in 3/8 or 1/2 oz would be my recommendation assuming you're not talking about swimming jigs

[WRB]

You need a jig that will slide through the submerged weeds without getting weeds wrapped around the jig head or the line tie at the hook eye. You are casting the jig, so you don't want the weed guard to get in the way of hook point when trying to set the hook. Brush guards, regardless of what everyone is telling us, causes missed strikes. To reduce missed strikes; spread the fiber type weed guard out into a Y, then fan the fiber strands out flat as possible. The fanned out weed guard will help to improve hook sets and keep weeds off the hook.

Go with the lighter weight jig heads, the jig should work through the weeds and contact the botttom where the weeds are less dense. 5/16 oz or 3/8 oz is a good starting weight. If you need more weight, just peg a 1/8 bullet weight to the jig hook eye.

Tom

PS; take a look at the Horizontal jigging thread, some good tips on casting a jig.

[Siebert Outdoors]

I agree with WRB. This is why I started offering my Grass Jig. The Grass jig works great in grassy areas you are fishing.

[papajoe222]

A Stanley WedgeHead, if you can find some, are one of the best for fishing through weeds. I fish a stand up jig head that comes to a point at the line tie with either a Reaper or paddle tailed worm as a trailer. You can use craw trailers, but anything with an action tail, or limbs will give you some problems. Oh yea, don't forget to give whatever jig you're going to use a good dose of oil based attractant. That'll help keep the weeds from clinging to it.

[Bankbeater]

It depends on the type of weeds your going to be pulling through. I will use a 3/8 jig when the weeds are not so dense, and a finesse jig when I the weeds get real thick. If the bait gets tangled I will take up the slack and give the bait a quick jerk. Usually the jigs comes right out with little or no weeds on it.

[MIbassin]

wouldn't the finesse jig not slide through the weeds?

[Siebert Outdoors]

It will work but not as well as a more cone or slim lined shaped head.

[WRB]

wouldn't the finesse jig not slide through the weeds?

Like most fishing terms what is the definition of a finesse jig? A dart head, shaky head, wacky or any small jig?

The jig head with living rubber trimmed to have a lion collar; Original Skinny Bear for example is a poor choice because the forward facing skirt strands collect moss. The grass jig with protected line tie eye and jig head shaped to slide through weeds is your best choice. Sieverts look perfect!

Tom

[deep]

Until two weeks back, 50% of my jigs were grass, and the other 50% were brush (and then I got some Nu-jigs, but I digress). To answer the original question, I'd use a grass jig in appropriate weight (not too heavy).

I like backwater4's jigs, and also own some Siebert Outdoors jigs as well. Both are quality products, as are several other brands.

[MIbassin]

after taking a look, would the strike king hack attack jig be good? and also whats the difference between grass and brush

[Jigfishn10]

after taking a look, would the strike king hack attack jig be good? and also whats the difference between grass and brush

Denny Brauer Pro Premier will be good for both.

[river-rat]

When it comes to a grass jig, I've used Oldham's Jigs for many years with good success. They are a first rate product.

You can buy them direct from Terry Oldham. His contact info is on the Oldham Jigs site -- http://www.oldhamjigs.com/ .

[Arv]

after taking a look, would the strike king hack attack jig be good? and also whats the difference between grass and brush

Yes, I like this jig a lot

[papajoe222]

after taking a look, would the strike king hack attack jig be good? and also whats the difference between grass and brush

That'd be a good choice for two reasons. First is the cone shape of the head and second is the verticle line tie. Both help you get your jig through the weeds without catching on them, or should I say they reduce the tendency to catch weeds.

As far as your brush/grass inquiry, brush is a type of wood cover (submerged bushes, cut branches, beaver houses, etc.) and grass is a generic term for vegetation.

[WRB]

after taking a look, would the strike king hack attack jig be good? and also whats the difference between grass and brush

ThenHack Attack is a classic flipping / pitching jig designed for vertical presentations. Grass is a term used for aquatic vegetation or weeds is some regions. Brush is wood, underwater bushes with lots of small branches to hand up in. Grass will wrap around the line and the jig, where brush doesn't. A brush jig is designed to go through small branches without getting hung up. A good grass jig wil go through bush when cast a distance and retrieved, a good brush jig may not get through grass without being wrapped in grass.

Tom

[skeletor6]

A quick slack line jerk of the line should remove the weeds from a jig. I fish many vegetated areas and will cast out and use brush heads just fine, they are very similar to Northstar alien heads too for reference. I like tying the line within the jig head as opposed to my knot being exposed. I use these because of the way it stands up the trailer when resting on the bottom. I also have siebert's grass jig and northstar's flip and swim which head design's are both effective at slipping through grass as well probably better, but will stand the trailer up different on the bottom. I enjoy the versatility and working the jig back to me with many different retrieves, until I figure out what is getting the job done that day. If I had a nicer boat I would rather not be casting out and retrieving it back, but that's a personal preference. Sometime's you'll get strikes when you jerk it through the weeds and the bait falls after that initial fast movement.

I think when most people are talking about "finesse jigs" they mean the lighter jigs. The term is somewhat ambiguous, but the idea of using a lighter jig is that it has a smaller head and thus has less surface area for weeds to get caught on.

Jigs with a weed guard and single hook are going to be weedless or 'weed-resistant' by design. Buy a few different head styles and see what works for you. It doesn't hurt to have many styles anyways. Siebert didn't call one of his jig heads a "grass head" without intent. Good luck!

[Jigfishn10]

It will work but not as well as a more cone or slim lined shaped head.

Basically you want mimic a t-rig worm: Bullet shape head as Siebert mentions and the line tie that comes out as close to inline as possible to the hook. For grass jigs that would be approx 30*. That doesn't mean that the other jigs won't work, you just have better options to make the day more enjoyable.

[MIbassin]

what weight would you guys recommend and what color?

[craww]

Papa joe nailed it. Vertical line tie and a conehead are key. In the millfoil covered lakes I fish, the grass stalker jig is perfect in grass and wood.

[iceintheveins]

I've found swimjigs come through clingy grass/weeds better than a standard arky head.