Megastink Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 I like Gamakatsu's Heavy Cover Worm hooks, but the bait keeper slides off from time to time. It gets to be an issue. I watched a video of Aaron Martins taking a Superline strait shank hook and, using thread and glue, tied a small piece of weedguard right below the eye to act as a bait keeper. I also have heard of guys using shrink tubing, but I think thread is more effective. Does anyone here make or modify your own flipping hooks? If so, what do you do? What brand hooks do you use and why? I like the looks of Owners strait shanks, but they have no bait keeper. I use the Gammy's because they hold their points, are stout, and have a shorter shank. Please help if you can. Thanks! Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 27, 2012 Super User Posted September 27, 2012 Owner Twist Lock or similar knock-offs Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted September 27, 2012 Super User Posted September 27, 2012 Are you wanting an EWG hook with a keeper for worms? I use the Mustad Pin and the Trokar pin hooks For flipping I use the Trokar straight shank as it has the bait keeper as well Quote
jkarol24 Posted September 27, 2012 Posted September 27, 2012 I like Gamakatsu's Heavy Cover Worm hooks, but the bait keeper slides off from time to time. It gets to be an issue. I've noticed this problem as well, and came up with a simple solution. When you buy one of those eagle claw or similar rod guide replacement things, they come with a hot-melt glue stick. Basically, i heat the end of the stick up with a lighter, then roll the hook shank in it, putting a thin film of the glue over the bottom of the keeper and maybe a 1/4"of the actual hook shank below it. I do this to all of my Gammi heavy cover hooks, and it makes those keepers last much longer than the 2-3 fish they last without the glue. Quote
Megastink Posted September 27, 2012 Author Posted September 27, 2012 Owner Twist Lock or similar knock-offs: http://www.ownerhooks.com/accessories.htm Not looking for a corkscrew hook. I want a think strait shank hook. I like te glue idea... Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted September 28, 2012 Super User Posted September 28, 2012 What? It's not a hook, it's a connector. Quote
Super User WRB Posted September 28, 2012 Super User Posted September 28, 2012 Gamakatsu makes a heavy hook with a wire wrapped keeper shank, check their web sire. Tom Quote
wisconsin heat Posted September 28, 2012 Posted September 28, 2012 Gamakatsu's flippin hooks suck,the keeper never stays on, I used super glue, but they still only last a few fish on the water. They even made new hooks with an *improved wire keeper* but I heard it still falls off. Quote
gobig Posted September 28, 2012 Posted September 28, 2012 I generally use the Gami hooks bought through paycheck baits. Comes with shrink tube. If it starts to move I just cut another piece and replace it. I have been trying out the Trokar hooks and really like them also. Quote
mikey5string Posted September 28, 2012 Posted September 28, 2012 you could use a corkscrew keeper on any hook. Just attach it to the eye. It is a much better keeper than any of the "keeper on hook" styles I have tried. Quote
papajoe222 Posted September 29, 2012 Posted September 29, 2012 I like to add my own keeper to a straight shank Gammy worm hook. I use my fly tying vise, wrap an angle cut piece of finishing nail a bit below the eye. A drop of super glue and I have a keeper that works much better than an offset. Don't know why I don't use this hook for all my plastics, but I just use it for flipping creature type baits. Quote
Megastink Posted September 29, 2012 Author Posted September 29, 2012 you could use a corkscrew keeper on any hook. Just attach it to the eye. It is a much better keeper than any of the "keeper on hook" styles I have tried. I feel like the use if a screw lock would inhibit my flipping baits from penetrating cover easily. I want something hydrodynamic in design, and screw locks, for this application, are not the answer. I will edit the thread to be more specific. Quote
merc1997 Posted September 29, 2012 Posted September 29, 2012 i see that lots of people like a spoat style hook for t-rigging. the new trokars and gammies to name a few have attached a big ol' barb the the hook shank to better hold your plastic on. has anyone stopped to think that as your plastic is pulled down the hook shank as the shank comes through the lips of the bass, that big ol' barb that is added on there can or will catch on the lips as it is passing through and prevent any further forward motion on the hook, and you will never bury the hook past the barb. anything that prevents forward motion of your hook on the hookset is not good. just my opinion. bo Quote
merc1997 Posted September 29, 2012 Posted September 29, 2012 by the way, forgot to mention that the j bend set up to keep your plastic on the hook is not any better than the sproat style. you have a vertical wall formed on the front of the hook that will hang on the lips of the bass going out, and will sometimes prevent forward motion of the hook, just has the shank slices or barbs on the sproat style. i think kent mentioned using a spring type keeper attached to the eyelet of the hook. this is a much better set up. your plastic can not slide down the hook shank blocking the throat of the hook because it is not attached to the hook shank. this set up will also come through brush and vegetation better because the plastic is more secure, and it is sitting completely behind the hook shank. bo Quote
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