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Why a squarebill? Whats the purpose of it being square? Are the advantages/disadvantages vs other cranks?

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I use them in shallow water. I like the way the deflect off of cover especially wood. The come through wood extremely well.

  • Super User
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Cool. Thanks guys. Had one given to me but haven't fished it yet. Just wonderin.

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To give a little more definition to a square bill.

They are shallow water cranks. most run from 0-5 ft. The square bill helps the crank dig into the bottom and deflect off of cover better than a traditional round billed crankbait. They can be thrown near brush and trees and rocks and not get hung up like a most other treble hook lures would.

I am most successful throwing mine near the shore early in the morning when fish are actively feeding in the shallows. I hooked up with 6 fish on my first 10 casts this morning throwing a KVD 1.5 in Gizzard Shad and letting it dig into and deflect off of the rocky bottom in about 4 ft of water.

These are lures you cant be afraid to throw into a place where any other treble hook would get hung up. Good luck!

-JP

  • Super User
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I am most successful throwing mine near the shore early in the morning when fish are actively feeding in the shallows. I hooked up with 6 fish on my first 10 casts this morning throwing a KVD 1.5 in Gizzard Shad and letting it dig into and deflect off of the rocky bottom in about 4 ft of water.

thats perfect cuz thats just the time of day and lake conditions im usually fishing

  • Super User
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I love throwing square bills. As stated, they're great for deflecting off of cover and structure. One of my confidence baits and they'll work pretty much year round from my experience. Enjoy!

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I had to stop watching. Felt the bait monkey climbing up my back to whisper "buy these," into my ear.

  • Like 1
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Do they make them bigger than 2.5"?

Id like to try them but I cant imagine throwing such a small bait on a casting rod. Do you use spinning gear?

I have a handful in my tacklebox but I never use them .With the exception of lipless, cranks are not one of my confidence baits.

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the 2.5 are pretty big and cast well with casting rods....so does the 1.5 believe it or not. The 1.0 may be a lil small to cast very far unless your using a lighter setup. I think lucky craft makes a 3.5 not 100% sure though...

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the 2.5 are pretty big and cast well with casting rods....so does the 1.5 believe it or not. The 1.0 may be a lil small to cast very far unless your using a lighter setup. I think lucky craft makes a 3.5 not 100% sure though...

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  • Super User
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On our Home Page, the lure I have rigged is the LC RC 3.5, purple back/ chartreuse belly.

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the 2.5 are pretty big and cast well with casting rods....so does the 1.5 believe it or not. The 1.0 may be a lil small to cast very far unless your using a lighter setup. I think lucky craft makes a 3.5 not 100% sure though...

thanks. The ones i had were actually the small and medium sized 2" so I went out and picked up 2 new 2.5" and they feel better. I put one on and took a few casts in the yard and they cast fine. Looking forward to using them this weekend.

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try picking up some KVD 1.5 & 2.5's also...should have no prob casting them, as far as bandit goes maybe their bodies are a lil smaller im not sure as i dont own alot of bandits.

  • Super User
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I like the KVD square bills too. Another thing you can do to make them even less snag happy is to lay the front treble down like it would be as if the bait was moving. then snip off that front exposed hook.

I have done this on the majority of mine and it makes them even less snag prone and i haven't noticed any difference in hook up rate.

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Do they make them bigger than 2.5"?

Id like to try them but I cant imagine throwing such a small bait on a casting rod. Do you use spinning gear?

I have a handful in my tacklebox but I never use them .With the exception of lipless, cranks are not one of my confidence baits.

Unless you're using a really stiff rod, you should be able to cast these things fairly well. I use a BPS cranking stick for all but my really deep cranks and although I'm not getting the distance I would out of a bigger bait, I don't have any problems throwing them.

Cranks are a great tool for both covering water and giving you a good 'read' on what's going on down there, not to mention darn good fish catchers. Spinnerbaits were never one of my confidence baits until I went out one day with just a handfull of them. By the end of the day, even though I didn't catch a lot of fish, I became comfortable with them. Now, there's always one tied on to one of my rods. Give it a try with cranks sometime. They may become one of your favs.

  • Like 1
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the ones I had were very small. under 2" for sure. I thought that was "standard size". I went to Dicks and picked up a few 2.5" KVD models and they are substantially larger and I had no problem casting them in the yard.

I really like the looks of them and I am pumped to try them Saturday. I have been having mediocre luck with a spinner and chatter bait, this might be the little change up that turns them on.

Only problem is that now I have a new thing to buy compulsively.

Do you guys throw the small ones? Do you prefer a certain size?

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Unless you're using a really stiff rod, you should be able to cast these things fairly well. I use a BPS cranking stick for all but my really deep cranks and although I'm not getting the distance I would out of a bigger bait, I don't have any problems throwing them.

Cranks are a great tool for both covering water and giving you a good 'read' on what's going on down there, not to mention darn good fish catchers. Spinnerbaits were never one of my confidence baits until I went out one day with just a handfull of them. By the end of the day, even though I didn't catch a lot of fish, I became comfortable with them. Now, there's always one tied on to one of my rods. Give it a try with cranks sometime. They may become one of your favs.

Good advice, I need to convince myself to do the same, take a day and just fish cranks. They're not one of my confidence baits, even though I have a bunch of them.

  • Super User
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Spinnerbaits were never one of my confidence baits until I went out one day with just a handfull of them. By the end of the day, even though I didn't catch a lot of fish, I became comfortable with them. Now, there's always one tied on to one of my rods. Give it a try with cranks sometime. They may become one of your favs.

IMO this is the absolute best way to learn a new bait. If there is a new lure/technique that I want to learn, everything else stays home. Otherwise if I'm not catching fish the old reliables come out. If I keep fishing what I know I never learn or develop confidence on new lures techniques. So I force myself to learn

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What is the best way to get the KVD 1.5s to run a tad deeper without messing up the action??

  • Super User
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What is the best way to get the KVD 1.5s to run a tad deeper without messing up the action??

Bigger front hook, and thin line like braid.

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