Fluorocarbon Line Breaking

[JKarbo214]

I have been using expensive fluorocarbon on my baitcasting rods. Once in a while I do get small tangles in the line but when I untangle it and cast it back out, it's no big deal. However, I am finding that lately the fluorocarbon is breaking fairly often when I send out long casts. It is 12 lb. Seaguar InvizX and this has happened numerous times, sometimes a few days after I've put brand new line on my reel. I've tried KVD Line and Lure Conditioner and this doesn't seem to help this problem. Anyone have any reasons and/or suggestions so I can avoid this in the future?

[Arv]

What knot(s) are you tying? Some knots (ie. Palomar knot) wind up cinching down on the line and leave nicks, compromising the strength. There are some ways you can modify the Palomar knot that I've seen but don't know off the top of my head, so I just tie a San Diego Jam.

[ChrisAW]

I would bet anything its because of the kinks you're getting from those tangles. That will cause failure. Are you getting backlashes and trying to pick them out too hastily?

I use InvisX on ALL my flouro applications, from 6 up to 20#, and I've never had a random break-off on a cast. After the punishment I've put this line through and the very little trouble I've had with it, I'll fish nothing else. (For flouro at least.)

[JKarbo214]

The line is breaking near the reel on long casts. I do use a palomar knot but I don't think that is the problem. I usually have to pull the lure in by hand since the line is breaking down near the reel on long casts.

[Loop_Dad]

So you were doing okay until recently? Does it break at the knot or somewhere else? If it is not at the knot, maybe something is wrong with your guides? Make sure all of them are nice and smooth.

[JKarbo214]

I would bet anything its because of the kinks you're getting from those tangles. That will cause failure. Are you getting backlashes and trying to pick them out too hastily?

I use InvisX on ALL my flouro applications, from 6 up to 20#, and I've never had a random break-off on a cast. After the punishment I've put this line through and the very little trouble I've had with it, I'll fish nothing else. (For flouro at least.)

I do get some backlashes and when I do, I do the best I can to pick them out. However after one backlash and a few casts later the line snaps. This is the problem and very frustrating.

[JKarbo214]

So you were doing okay until recently? Does it break at the knot or somewhere else? If it is not at the knot, maybe something is wrong with your guides? Make sure all of them are nice and smooth.

It is not breaking at the knot. My guides all look good, especially since two of my poles are brand new.

[Loop_Dad]

Were you doing okay before? ---> If yes, then I would suspect something you are doing is causing.

Did you just get a new spool of the same line? ---> If yes, maybe you got a bad batch of line?

[Arv]

I do get some backlashes and when I do, I do the best I can to pick them out. However after one backlash and a few casts later the line snaps. This is the problem and very frustrating.

This would also be my guess. I would pull your line out a ways and check for any nicks at all. If you find one, cut your line there. Its not the same situation, but every time I have to break off my line on a snag I check a much larger segment of the line for any kind of deformations, and have I suprisingly some before.

[M-D]

Sounds like you are getting some damage to the line when you backlash causing it to break. If this is happening with a new spool of line it could be that particular spool of line is bad. I have had that issue with mono in the past. Also, not saying you are not but, you need to carefully pick out a backlash. Pulling really hard on one can kink the line causing the problem you are having.

[ClackerBuzz]

I would bet anything its because of the kinks you're getting from those tangles. That will cause failure. Are you getting backlashes and trying to pick them out too hastily?

I use InvisX on ALL my flouro applications, from 6 up to 20#, and I've never had a random break-off on a cast. After the punishment I've put this line through and the very little trouble I've had with it, I'll fish nothing else. (For flouro at least.)

couldn't have said it better myself. you compromised the line in the backlash.

my advice: stop backlashing. all joking aside...if you don't know how to cast w/o backlashing you need to add another set of centrifugal brakes and/or dial the magnetic brakes up more. once you are consistently not backlashing you can slowly subtract brakes. how much depends on which lure you have tied on and the weather conditions. big double bladed spinnerbaits have more wind resistance so you will need more brakes than when casting a 'bullet' lipless trap or fat ika. and you will need more brakes when casting into the wind. get to know your reel better. take the time to fine tune the brakes for each lure you tie on and you will have more success.

also you will need to adjust the spectrum of ur brakes alot more if you are trying to use one 'multi-purpose rod'. its hard to not backlash if using one 7' MH rod to cast every lure in ur box. going from a senko to jig to spinnerbait to trap to a t-rig all on the same rod would have me dialing the heck out of my brakes (i don't miss the old days!).

did you every consider using braid for ur main line w/ a fluoro leader? braid is much easier to pick out w/o damaging. i spool about 90% braid w/ 10% Seaguar InvizX leaders and make out great. i just ordered their Red Lable to try b/c its so much cheaper but need some time on the water before i can comment on it

Edited September 24, 2012 by ClackerBuzz

[SirSnookalot]

Message is clear, that line isn't for you, try something else. If the problem still persists I'd be going back to plain ole mono or braid and spinning gear, I doubt that the numbers of fish you catch will suffer. Sometimes a huge variety of choices and technology ain't so good.

[rockchalk06]

Snook is right. If you haven't yet, try braid with a mono or fluoro leader. I have one set up using Invizix 12# and so far (knock on wood) it's been great. Of course (knock on wood) I haven had a major overrun yet with it.

This is my only fluoro set up. I have switched over to braid and elliminated about 99% of my problems

[dodgeguy]

all flouro will do this.the line cannot recover from being kinked!!!

[fishking247]

a good quality mono like trilene or stren will avoid the issues you are having. you can also fish braid.

[retiredbosn]

Floro has a crystalline structure any time it backlashes it kinks. It may look fine but it's not. A kink in floro causes the structure of the line to break, the outside of the line can look fine but the inside be severed. If it backlashes cut the line several feet behind the last loose loop.