GaterB Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 Anybody got any opinions on what would be better paired with a Duckett Micro Magic 7'6" for frog fishing and pitchin--Shimano Chronarch or Lew's Tournament Pro? Thanks! Quote
Aluma-Bass Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 i have 4 arch's and love them! Cant speak for the lew's never fished one....plus that white on white will look nice! Quote
rubba bubba Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 Personal preference. Both are fine reels. Decide which one palms better and looks nicer in your eyes. Quote
ipeeinmywetsuit Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 Either will look great on a white duckett.. but the tp is lighter and much smaller than the Chronarch. But because that 7'6" might be a little more tip heavy maybe the chronarch will balance better with it. Also the Chronarch has a larger line capacity which will be nice considering you should be spooling up with some heavy lb braid. Quote
Super User NorcalBassin Posted September 18, 2012 Super User Posted September 18, 2012 I have one of each and would go with a Chronarch if I was to buy another. Quote
skeletor6 Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 Which chronarch are you looking to get? The 200e or 50e? Either way, I think the white on white would look really cool. Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted September 18, 2012 Super User Posted September 18, 2012 Another vote for the chronarch e series. Quote
The Rooster Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 On this I'm torn. I was just thinking about this same choice the other day and I think I decided that I'd rather put $200 on the Chronarch over the Lew's, but that's after fishing for several days in a row with my Curado E in hand. I love that reel. If I had to choose today, it would be the Chronarch. The VBS braking is just flawless. The Lew's only has 4 pins, not 6, but it does have magnetics to back it up also. The 6 pin needs nothing extra though. Just your thumb. Quote
Super User LgMouthGambler Posted September 18, 2012 Super User Posted September 18, 2012 A nice Chronarch 200E7 would be a sweet reel. I love mine. This thing casts a mile, even with 20# YoZuri on it. Quote
GaterB Posted September 18, 2012 Author Posted September 18, 2012 Thanks for all the feedback everybody! Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted September 18, 2012 Super User Posted September 18, 2012 I have the new 200E5 Chronarch and it was worth every penny to me. I use it for my cranking rod and the combination is killer. It's all I ever want to throw. I don't get into the nitty gritty details of reels like some but I have yet to have any reel of mine lock up, fall apart, drag breaking, or whatever else. I own Shimanos, Quantums, and an Abu. All work perfectly. Quote
Capt.Bob Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 Both are super reels decide how much you want to spend and that's the one to get, the Team is a little better reel than the TP with the Titanium coated aluminum side plates, and can still be had for less than the Chronarch, and either one of the Lew's has a stronger drag, and every bit as smooth with their Carbontex drag washers. 1 Quote
Bassego Posted September 20, 2012 Posted September 20, 2012 I have both and they are both superb. Its really up to you what you want. What i do is just make a spreadsheet with the pros/cons of each and that helps me decide in the long run especially if one is at a discount. Quote
Capt.Bob Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 The VBS braking is just flawless. The Lew's only has 4 pins, not 6, but it does have magnetics to back it up also. The 6 pin needs nothing extra though. Just your thumb. Six pin four pin??? I have had both and have never used more than 2 brakes on any real, I think anything over 4 are a waste, does anybody ever turn all there brakes on and try and cast???? I think to many worry about a feture that can't be used, without hindering performance! Either one of these reels cast superb, one is smoother than the other??? Pick one and you will be happy, they are both excellent reels. Quote
The Rooster Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 About the pin braking, I always heard to have brakes on in even spacing around the reel spool. Some people believe in this totally. With the 4 pin system it means either 2 or 4 only. With the 6 pin you can do 2, 3, 4, or 6. I doubt there are many who would ever use 6, but I do occasionally use 3. I was thinking about it the other day though and I can't see that you would need to have them balanced as described above. That little brake pad is only moving out about 1/16 of an inch or so. How much difference can that make really?? I think you could use 3 on the Lew's reel in a T shaped pattern and you wouldn't have any adverse effects at all. Likewise you could use 5 on the 6 pin system, or even just 1 and it would be fine. I don't think it's even physically possible for the spool to be "out of balance" with odd brake settings. I think next time I'm out I'm going to set 3 brakes to on with the Curado and have them all on the same side to see what happens. I bet it's the same as 3 in a Y pattern. Quote
skeletor6 Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 About the pin braking, I always heard to have brakes on in even spacing around the reel spool. Some people believe in this totally. With the 4 pin system it means either 2 or 4 only. With the 6 pin you can do 2, 3, 4, or 6. I doubt there are many who would ever use 6, but I do occasionally use 3. I was thinking about it the other day though and I can't see that you would need to have them balanced as described above. That little brake pad is only moving out about 1/16 of an inch or so. How much difference can that make really?? I think you could use 3 on the Lew's reel in a T shaped pattern and you wouldn't have any adverse effects at all. Likewise you could use 5 on the 6 pin system, or even just 1 and it would be fine. I don't think it's even physically possible for the spool to be "out of balance" with odd brake settings. I think next time I'm out I'm going to set 3 brakes to on with the Curado and have them all on the same side to see what happens. I bet it's the same as 3 in a Y pattern. If you think about it as an imperfect sphere spinning. Perhaps a basketball with a lump in it. When it spins along an axis, it will certainly wobble. This wobble will cause the rotational forces to not maintain the same energy levels compared to a perfect sphere. The centrifugal brakes would work in a similar fashion if unbalanced. I agree with you about that not causing issues with the reel, but I have noticed there to be a differences in casting behavior between the two. The primary action of the brakes is the initial throw of those pins extending, so the differences are subtle since this will occur in both unbalanced and balanced systems and will result in similar energy loss to the spinning spool. That action is the centrifugal brakes primary action, to slow the front end of the cast. I feel that is why many do not want their centrifugal brakes slowing any other part of the cast. I tested the same exact idea. I would like to hear if you notice any differences. As far as which one to choose, you are going to have to match the features and decide which are important to you. If you just can't decide I would just choose the one that you prefer aesthetically. I don't think you can go wrong with this one. There are not many unsatisfied customers on either side. Quote
rubba bubba Posted September 21, 2012 Posted September 21, 2012 With the 4 pin system it means either 2 or 4 only. With the 6 pin you can do 2, 3, 4, or 6. I doubt there are many who would ever use 6, but I do occasionally use 3. You didn't mention the magnetic brake on the Lews, in addition to the centrifugal, which gives it far more adjustability than just a third pin on or off. Quote
The Rooster Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 I am mostly thinking that the spool doesn't have the room to be out of balance and wobble due to the bearing to shaft tolerances. It's so tight that it couldn't possibly wobble. I plan to find out though. I can speculate about it all day on what it might do but there's only one way to know. Quote
The Rooster Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 You didn't mention the magnetic brake on the Lews, in addition to the centrifugal, which gives it far more adjustability than just a third pin on or off. This is true. However I think for me personally I'd prefer a reel with brakes that were simpler to use. I think pins and magnetics used together in such a way as to achieve the same slowing power of pins alone in another reel is just a bit too complex. I'm not trying to bag on the Lew's reel though. I may end up with one in the future. I like them. But if they had a 6 pin system, I'd love them. Quote
rubba bubba Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 I think pins and magnetics used together in such a way as to achieve the same slowing power of pins alone in another reel is just a bit too complex. My point isn't that pins and mags achieve the same as pins alone, rather pins and mags achieve much more adjustability and thus performance than pins alone. It's just a feature to be weighed when making a decision; some may want it, some may not. Quote
Capt.Bob Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 The centrifugal brake system on the Shimano is totally different than the Lew's, as they don't use the same system. I most often use only one brake on the Lew's if I am using any at all, I use no breaks most of the time, The Lew's uses a spring assisted brake where Shimano relies totally on centrifugal force. The pins are also much larger and heavier on the Shimano reels. Lew's recommends the use of one two three whatever is needed not like Shimano which suggest two, four, or six whether you need them or not. I will say I have used 1 on Shimano when it was needed, and it did cast better than 2?? Ether reel will be capable of being dialed in to suite anyone's needs! Quote
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