New Shimano Reels Question

[gall]

i was looking at the new shimano spinning reels that are coming out and my question is do any of them have either a waterproof or sealed drag? i know the old saros did but its not saying anything about the new ones does anyone know i'm thinking about buying one but not until i find out about the drag

[mod479]

No idea if it does, cant find the answer online either.

If you're gonna get the new saros, why not spend a little extra coin on a Stradic FJ? It's slightly lighter, has X-ship, same number of bearings, has gotten excellent short and long term reviews, and you know the drag is waterproof. I love mine, the white paint is irredescent green and looks awesome up close.

[thehooligan]

No idea if it does, cant find the answer online either.

If you're gonna get the new saros, why not spend a little extra coin on a Stradic FJ? It's slightly lighter, has X-ship, same number of bearings, has gotten excellent short and long term reviews, and you know the drag is waterproof. I love mine, the white paint is irredescent green and looks awesome up close.

I second the stradic fj, i have the 1000 on my dobyns dropshot rod and its smooth as butter, awesome reel.

[gall]

ill have to take a look hows the drag on it? is it sealed and also is it a smooth drag? i have a pfluger surpreme xt and ive noticed the drag isnt like my old shimano sahara the drag on that couldnt be more smooth

[Capt.Bob]

ill have to take a look hows the drag on it? is it sealed and also is it a smooth drag? i have a pfluger surpreme xt and ive noticed the drag isnt like my old shimano sahara the drag on that couldnt be more smooth

Any of the Stradics will have a drag that is as smooth as butter and will rival a level wind drag. I upgraded my old Stradics this year and even my old Stradics FH, FI, MgFB MgF all had Super smooth drags, now there all waterproof the FJ is the way to go. It is worth a little nore cash for a lot more reel.

[gall]

thanks for the advice i still have my sarhara and that thing was a tank im extremely disappointed with my pfluger and i wish i just stuck with shimano now i know what type of reel im getting overall how do you like the ci4?

[rockchalk06]

If its not sealed I just use a heavier grease and it helps some

[00 mod]

ci4 has waterproof drag, and despite the opinions of some others on here, I still say is the best bang for your buck as far as a spinning reel goes! Lightweight and smooth as butter, I have the 2500 paired with a Pinnacle spinning rod and it is AWESOME!!!! whole setup weights 10.5 oz.

Jeff

[J Francho]

I have three CI4 2500s. All have been upgraded to Carbontex Drags from Smooth Drags. I run them dry, since I sometimes operate in freezing conditions. Great reels, light and capable.

[gall]

how do you change out the drags on a reel?

[J Francho]

Have a pro do it for you

https://www.delawarevalleytackle.com/

[gall]

how much would it cost and do you have any links? i wouldnt mind having my pfluger redone

[fishking247]

it's a fairly simple process. buy the appropriate drag washers and do it yourself. it will save you money. i'm sure you can google how to change a drag on a spinning reel and figure it out

[J Francho]

how much would it cost and do you have any links? i wouldnt mind having my pfluger redone

Have Mike at DVT do it: http://www.bassresource.com/ads/www/delivery/ck.php?oaparams=2__bannerid=228__zoneid=8__cb=6d37b5f815__oadest=http://www.delawarevalleytackle.com/

[SirSnookalot]

Shimano makes a good product, that said my comparable sized supreme (35 or a 2500) has caught many inshore fish that can really test that drag, I have never upgraded a drag on any reel, but if you think it's makes a difference go4it. Having a drag problem catching bass with your supreme may be an isolated problem and not the norm. The purpose of a drag is not to stop a bull elephant in full gallop, but tire it out, you may be expecting too much.

A simple phone call or email to Shimano will give you a definitive answer whether the saros has a waterproof drag or not, it's a very good reel. I own reels from quite a few mfgs, but I have more Pfluegers (5), Shimanos(4) and Abu sorons (4) than anything else, the drags on all 3 brands all work well, each reel is butter smooth. The max drag is a misleading number as you don't tighten it down all the way, the sorons do have the most max of those brands, as I say it doesn't mean anything, I'm setting the drag to the line. The Pfluegers and sorons may get a wind knot once in a while, the Shimanos have never had one, just the way it is, I don't make recommendations, it's your money.

My soron 20 is probably my favorite of all, I use it for bass and inshore fishing. Not that I'm in the market now, but my next purchase may be a new stradic.

[gall]

thanks for the advice and the drag for my surpreme will be like this either no line at all getting out or way to much where i cant even reel it in i really like the look of the shimano and even when i had my shara ive dunked it a few times by accident and still never had an issue

[SirSnookalot]

thanks for the advice and the drag for my surpreme will be like this either no line at all getting out or way to much where i cant even reel it in i really like the look of the shimano and even when i had my shara ive dunked it a few times by accident and still never had an issue

Sounds like an isolated issue and not the way that reel normally performs. Before I would abandon ship on it, I'd send it in to Pure Fishing, a good chance it will be repaired or replaced at their expense. As a rule their customer service is excellent with a fast turnaround time.

[gall]

thank you so much for the advice and the only other thing i noticed is when im casting baits like small cranks and top waters sometimes i heard a pop and starting reeling in to see a knot has formed my old shimano never had that happen you think its because the propulsion and all the other things on shimano that i never had that problem?

[mod479]

thank you so much for the advice and the only other thing i noticed is when im casting baits like small cranks and top waters sometimes i heard a pop and starting reeling in to see a knot has formed my old shimano never had that happen you think its because the propulsion and all the other things on shimano that i never had that problem?

Flip your bail by hand, dont just start reeling, that could be your issue there. As for the drag sticking? Sound like it needs a good cleaning/lube, or maybe something let go inside... Wont know 'til someone takes it apart.

Did you decide on a new reel yet?

[Hooligan]

@ OP The reels in question are a sealed waterproof drag.

In comparison to the pflueger reels that I've fished and handled, the shimano has a much better system. The only Flooger reel with a sealed drag is all the way up in the Patriarch XT. There are a couple of reels that say they're sealed waterproof, but they are not, because they rely solely on the spool tension cap. Other than that, they're a decent reel.

The biggest thing that shimano has over any other spinning reel is line management. They twist less, cast further, and perform better with line lay than even the new Certate. They've also got the features patented incredibly well, which is why you see only Shimano doing the things they do on spinning reels. The bail, the spool lip, Propulsion, SR Concept, Aero Wrap... the list goes on. I mean, really, who was the first company to use direct drive arbors on spinning reels? If you said VanStaal, you're wrong, it's Shimano; and now everyone is mimicking that little bit...

[gall]

i always mainly close it i get the nails on the chalk board when people turn the handle to shut the bail and ive greased and oil still same issue and after much thinking im going back to shimano the ci4 4300 i went to bps today and felt it and see how it felt i fell in love

[retiredbosn]

No bass will ever test your drag like a Snook!

[mod479]

You can't go wrong there, the Ci4 is one of the best deals out there in terms of spinning reels. I've got 3 now of varying sizes, and they've been flawless all season long.

Bring your rod to bass pro if you can and put a 2500 or 3000 on it first, then try the 4000 and decide! The 2500 balances better with rods under 7' in my opinion. Not sure what you're using for a stick, although I think I recall you saying a fenwick elite tech smallmouth rod? With my 4000 Ci4, it didnt feel right until I put it on a 7'6" Dobyns.

[00 mod]

My 6'8'' spinning and 7' spinning rods have 2500 size.

Jeff

[J Francho]

I can't imagine needing anything other than 2500 size reel for bass, unless you are looking to set up a spinning rod for frogging.