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Treble hooks: 6'6" M XF or 6'6" MH F

Hollow Body Frogs: 7'3" H F

Soft Body Frogs: 7' MH F or XF depending on cove

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PR844C/ Core 100/ Sunline Super Natural

More generally:

For enthusiasts, technique specific gear is fun

to collect. However, three rigs cover all the

basics:

#1 6 1/2' or 7' MH baitcaster for jigs, some

soft plastics and spinnerbaits

#2 6 1/2' or 7' MM baitcaster for treble hook

lures

#3 7' MF spinning rod for lighter lures and a

variety of techniques

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whatever you buy, buy a short rod (6'-6'6") the short rod helps work topwater baits (especially spooks) a lot easier.

now if you're talking about topwater please disregard what i said.

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I do think a shorter rod with a shortish rear butt is easier to work any topwater bait. Like anything else it's getting used to your equipment, I enjoy using my 7'6 and 8' rods with topwater.

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That would be a fine choice. The lightweight will be helpful over the long haul. Personally I like the stiff tip of the veritas for spook type baits, especially on a long cast. You'll be able to get good distance with the 7 footer also...

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Does anybody recommend the Abu Garcia Veritas micro guide 7' Medium fast action rod for this application?

This is my top water rig for everything but frogs. I can zing a small popr way out there

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I would look at Powell's line of crankbait rods. Right now at TW, you can get their Endurance Glass 7' H MF for $119 with the Labor Day sale. Their cranking rods are superb for top waters.

I have two rods for tops waters: Max 7' H MF graphite cranking rod, paired withs reel with a 6.4 or 7.1:1 ratio and 30 lb Powerpro. I use that for any hard floating top water under 3/4oz.

Then I have their 7'2" MH xf Diesel rod with the same reel and line. This is for small frogs and (mainly) super spooks.

Please note: I thin you need to pair the rod with the HOOKS. If you have thin trebles, standard number 6 or 4, then you need a soft rod. However, if you upgrade to 2x trebles, like my spook, those thicker hooks demand a stiffer rod to aid in penetration and holding power, not to mention the monster bass that will take a giant top water.

The same philosophy applies to jerkbaits

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I would look at Powell's line of crankbait rods. Right now at TW, you can get their Endurance Glass 7' H MF for $119 with the Labor Day sale. Their cranking rods are superb for top waters.

I have two rods for tops waters: Max 7' H MF graphite cranking rod, paired withs reel with a 6.4 or 7.1:1 ratio and 30 lb Powerpro. I use that for any hard floating top water under 3/4oz.

Then I have their 7'2" MH xf Diesel rod with the same reel and line. This is for small frogs and (mainly) super spooks.

Please note: I thin you need to pair the rod with the HOOKS. If you have thin trebles, standard number 6 or 4, then you need a soft rod. However, if you upgrade to 2x trebles, like my spook, those thicker hooks demand a stiffer rod to aid in penetration and holding power, not to mention the monster bass that will take a giant top water.

The same philosophy applies to jerkbaits. Good luck!

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I would look at Powell's line of crankbait rods. Right now at TW, you can get their Endurance Glass 7' H MF for $119 with the Labor Day sale. Their cranking rods are superb for top waters.

I have two rods for tops waters: Max 7' H MF graphite cranking rod, paired withs reel with a 6.4 or 7.1:1 ratio and 30 lb Powerpro. I use that for any hard floating top water under 3/4oz.

Then I have their 7'2" MH xf Diesel rod with the same reel and line. This is for small frogs and (mainly) super spooks.

Please note: I thin you need to pair the rod with the HOOKS. If you have thin trebles, standard number 6 or 4, then you need a soft rod. However, if you upgrade to 2x trebles, like my spook, those thicker hooks demand a stiffer rod to aid in penetration and holding power, not to mention the monster bass that will take a giant top water.

The same philosophy applies to jerkbaits

I match my rod to my lure weight and if it's fresh water the vegetation is a consideration too. One mfgs hvy rod may not be another's, I don't use a heavy rod for anything( hvy rod is a bait rod for me), mh 10/20 lure weight max of 1 oz is as heavy as I go, freshwater is lighter than that. When it's time for hook replacement I use mostly 3x and 4 x, setting the hook is of no concern, whether it's a top water, jerkbait or spoon. With a moving bait, especially if it's a larger fish, you should be getting hit hard enough the fish sets the hook themselves, I don't see enough difference to be using a xf over a fast tip. In the case of a smaller fish where I might have to set the hook, I don't want to catch them little guys anyway.......braided line is the equalizer, I use it exclusively for repetitive cast and retrieve.

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