Super User rockchalk06 Posted August 19, 2012 Super User Posted August 19, 2012 I recently switched over to #50 pound braid on all but one set up. I have been fishing a few really small ponds with lots of trees for shelter so I haven't noticed it. With the cooler 80 degree temp and the 3" of rain this morning I hit one of the open lakes. I swear every time I made a long cast, my line Kinda acted like a sail. I have #17 pound fluoro on my crankbait set up and didn't notice it at all. Is this normal with #50 pound? Should I drop down to 40# for normal conditions? For what its worth I was using a 1/2oz jig with trailer and a 5" hollowed body swimbait with 1/4oz weighted hook so I don't think to light a bait was the issue. Wind was a small 5-10 mph nothing major. Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted August 19, 2012 Super User Posted August 19, 2012 It's a characteristic of braid, only way to make is less of a problem is to drop line diameter, just the nature of the beast. Quote
BASSHUNTER1961 Posted August 19, 2012 Posted August 19, 2012 If there is a hint of wind that's what happens. If it's dead calm I do not experience this at all. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted August 19, 2012 Super User Posted August 19, 2012 It's the nature of the beast. I use 30 braid w/ leader for several set ups and only go up to 50 + for the heavy cover environments. 30lb handles well, is plenty strong enough and does not blow around as bad. A-Jay Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted August 19, 2012 Author Super User Posted August 19, 2012 It's the nature of the beast. I use 30 braid w/ leader for several set ups and only go up to 50 + for the heavy cover environments. 30lb handles well, is plenty strong enough and does not blow around as bad. A-Jay Will 30# dig into the spool? Quote
BASSHUNTER1961 Posted August 19, 2012 Posted August 19, 2012 Will 30# dig into the spool? If you hook a big fish or get hung up on heavy cover yes... but it's usually releases after the first cast, not a huge issue. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted August 19, 2012 Super User Posted August 19, 2012 Will 30# dig into the spool? I haven't tried them all but Power Pro & Sufix 832 braid handle just fine. A-Jay Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted August 20, 2012 Super User Posted August 20, 2012 There are but 2 functions for 50# braid, tying up your tomato plants or raising the Titanic, which will you be doing? J/K about the Titanic, I'd be using 65# braid. I don't feel there is anyplace for line that heavy for small game fishing. I know I've heard all this digging in stuff, that's why I use spinning with 15# braid when I'm targeting fish I know that are going to be less than 10# and most are smaller. I'm not into winching and dragging them in. Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted August 20, 2012 Author Super User Posted August 20, 2012 There are but 2 functions for 50# braid, tying up your tomato plants or raising the Titanic, which will you be doing? J/K about the Titanic, I'd be using 65# braid. I don't feel there is anyplace for line that heavy for small game fishing. I know I've heard all this digging in stuff, that's why I use spinning with 15# braid when I'm targeting fish I know that are going to be less than 10# and most are smaller. I'm not into winching and dragging them in. I have always run 15# on my spinning gear but wanted to try it with my BC reels too. I went with 50# off recommendations from here due to the digging in. Guess I should have researched it more. I do like the titanic bit though! Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted August 20, 2012 Super User Posted August 20, 2012 I have always run 15# on my spinning gear but wanted to try it with my BC reels too. I went with 50# off recommendations from here due to the digging in. Guess I should have researched it more. I do like the titanic bit though! I have enough technology, don't mind giving the fish a sporting chance. Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted August 20, 2012 Author Super User Posted August 20, 2012 If you hook a big fish or get hung up on heavy cover yes... but it's usually releases after the first cast, not a huge issue. Good deal. Thanks alot Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted August 20, 2012 Author Super User Posted August 20, 2012 I haven't tried them all but Power Pro & Sufix 832 braid handle just fine. A-Jay Thanks. I kinda prefer Suffix so I will try some. I have 3 new reels coming in for various set ups that need line! Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted August 20, 2012 Super User Posted August 20, 2012 How tight do you have your drag set? You can prevent some digging in with the braid if you loosen your drag a little more than if you were using a mono/fluoro. If you're fishing dense weeds or worried about the fish hanging you up, just use your thumb to give the added resistance to keep it up in the water where you need it to be. I use 20 and 30 lb braid on a few of my BC's and I have eliminated a lot of digging from this. Give it a try. Quote
Busy Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 Will 30# dig into the spool? I use 20# braid typically and the only dig I see is usually further into the spool than I use. I unwrap it every once in a while but I've never had a cast stop from the line being dug in in the middle of the spool. When you spool, do it with some pressure on the line to get it tight on the spool. This will help with dig problems before they start. Quote
Capt.Bob Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 Will 30# dig into the spool? I spool my 400 Calcutta W/ 65 # test braid on my Muskie rod, tie direct to a 70# Fluorocarbon leader for the thoothy critters, and if I lock into a log or rocks and have to pull hard enough to break it, it will dig into the spool, not bad but if you are running the reel totally free, which I do a lot, you better be careful on the next cast or you could have problems, this is magnified with lighter reels and lighter line and lures!. . On Bait casting reels W/ a MH or H rig for heavy weeds and cover I like 30, only because I use 25# test leaders with Big Game in the thick slop. I use 20# test on my finesse rods W/ 6 or 8# test Fluoro. for plastics and light rigging, same for crankin but I use 12# fluorocarbon leaders, gets down quicker and farther. I like Sufix and Fireline Tracer Braid, it doesn't bleed the color as bad as regular Braid. Regardless what you use, I can generally straighten the hooks out with 25# test when using hooks and tackle for anything Bass size in fresh water. Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted August 20, 2012 Author Super User Posted August 20, 2012 How tight do you have your drag set? You can prevent some digging in with the braid if you loosen your drag a little more than if you were using a mono/fluoro. If you're fishing dense weeds or worried about the fish hanging you up, just use your thumb to give the added resistance to keep it up in the water where you need it to be. I use 20 and 30 lb braid on a few of my BC's and I have eliminated a lot of digging from this. Give it a try. I have it set to roughly the same as I did with fluoro. I will do this. Thanks alot Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted August 20, 2012 Author Super User Posted August 20, 2012 I use 20# braid typically and the only dig I see is usually further into the spool than I use. I unwrap it every once in a while but I've never had a cast stop from the line being dug in in the middle of the spool. When you spool, do it with some pressure on the line to get it tight on the spool. This will help with dig problems before they start. Man with 20# I could get a half mile out of a cast. Quote
Busy Posted August 20, 2012 Posted August 20, 2012 I like the 20# A LOT. Yesterday I was throwing a 3/8oz. jig with a rage baby craw trailer with 1 brake on on my citica 200E. I was using 3 brakes prior to this and it was slinging. Edit: It was a little gusty yesterday and at times my 20# was bending a ton. I just try to focus on that the line is still taught. You don't have to straighten the line to your lure to give the lure action. You will probably move the lure a ton more than you intend to. Just work it normally. Quote
LexBass Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 I have been using Yo-Zuri 10 lb hybrid for the past couple of months. I mostly fish senkos and don't like the stretch or feeling. I have heard a lot about Suffix 832 and wanted to try some. My favorite senko setup is a Core 50mg and a Carrot Stix Wild Green 7ft inshore rod. What weight Suffix 832 do you guys recommend for casting distance and feeling. Casting distance is very important because I fish ponds from a bank towards stucture. Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted August 22, 2012 Super User Posted August 22, 2012 40 or 50 lb is what I would use for what you're describing Lex Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted August 22, 2012 Super User Posted August 22, 2012 I see no huge difference in casting distance using the same size spinning gear with 10-15- or even 20# braid, I get ample distance with any of them. I'm picking the line for the conditions, if I'm tossing a frog in slop I may go up to 20# braid. Quote
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