Abu Garcia Sx Hs Is Tangling Fluro.

[bigt89]

okay, while dealing with the mess my dad mentioned something that made a lot of sense. i don't know what the proper term is for what I'm going to describe but hopefully some one can help me get this fixed once and for all.

when i cast i have my settings were they should be the only thing i don't touch is the drag star. i out the left brake to were the line only slowy falls when i shake rod. and the other brake that slows the fall up to about 7. on the way out casting when the line stops coming out the spool still spins wondering if thats what they consider back spin. when no more line is coming out the spool appears to keep spinning, leading my dad to think thats were the birds nest comes from. i had mentioned in another post i have always used power pro on all my salt water bait casters never any problems. i hope i described this as best as possible. it hit my dad when he was helping out trying to get the bad line off when we put it back together and got fresh good clean line left the line was un spooling on its own while trying to put it back together then he wanted to test something when we were pulling lien out after i stopped pulling some out he noticed the spool was still spinning for a short period after wards that leading him to believe thats what is happening on the water.

im also goign to pick up some line conditioner at dicks its not kvd but i hope it will work as good.

[BASSclary]

it sounds to me like your just not stopping the spool when the lure hits the water, and not thumbing the spool during the cast.

Also it sounds like your drag is loose too, tighten that up.

[Diggy]

from another board, you can try this to see if it helps or not

It seems that most users will backlash at the start of a cast, more so than at the end. Therefore, many users were not able to master the mag only reels. Here are a few tips. First off, they set up differently than most reels. To set the reel, you need to remember to always start with the mag dial at zero. Anytime you change baits, and need to reset the reel, you need to turn the dial back to zero.

With the dial at zero, set the tension knob to a point that when you depress the thumb bar, the bait will not drop in freespool until you give the rod a slight shake. When the tension is set right, you should be able to get the bait to fall a foot or two, in freespool, by shaking the rod some. Once you have the tension set there, DO NOT set it any tighter. Setting the tension any tighter than that will cause the spool shaft to drill into the tension disks. So, when you get the tension set there, turn the mag dial up to where you think it should be. New users, go ahead and set the mag dial to 10 and then back it off with each cast until it starts to feel like it might be close to backlashing, then turn it back up a bit.

That will be your setting for most conditions. Turn it back up a bit from there to cast into the wind. As you master the reel and get better at thumbing the spool, you can set the initial tension looser, just remember, the tension is not a brake, it's a setting for spool tension and you will damage the reel if you run it to tight. That goes for all reels. The reason you need the mag dial at zero before setting tension is that you set the tension by watching the fall of the bait in free spool. If the mag dial is turned on, it will slow the fall of the bait while trying to set the tension. You will then set the tension based on that slower fall rate and will backlash the heck out of it on your first cast.

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

What you are describing is referred to as over-run, which causes the backlash. The SX is a pretty free running reel and will require thumb control. The Mag brakes are only to assist. Set them up as described above. You may also want to modify your casting stroke. Don't throw the bait too hard. A good rod will load with relatively little effort. A nice smooth easy cast lets the rod do the work and usually ends up in better accuracy and distance .

[MarkH024]

I think DVT nailed it. Sounds like you're trying to throw the bait with everything you got and I see that problem with more baitcast users than ever. If you have a good rod you should be able to sling your bait with a nice easy stroke. It is similar to a golf swing, if you try to over-do it, you'll shank/slice. A nice precise stroke will give you the best results.

Also, what kind of Fluoro are you using? That could be a portion of the problem as well. I also like to use a line conditioner like KVD brand. That stuff works really well in my experience.

[new2BC4bass]

Don't throw the bait too hard. A good rod will load with relatively little effort. A nice smooth easy cast lets the rod do the work and usually ends up in better accuracy and distance .

X3 Whenever I backlash my Curado 51E it is almost always because I was trying to throw too hard. Easing up a bit eliminates the backlashes and I still get pretty good distance with a 3/16 spinnerbait. Actually distance might be better than the hard throws. The cast feels better as well, and as already mentioned, will improve accuracy.

[BassinLou]

Diggy, that was a nice description and explanation imho.

[bigt89]

ill keep that in mind. i always have my thumb on spool. ill also get the drag star tight. i been throwing bait caster's ever since i was time but always with power pro.i have always been fishign salt water stripers weakies blues etc. but i have been in a boat so i get were i need to be and only was casting maybe 15-30 yards max. i did notice that i wanted my last cast perfect just on the edge of the lily cove thats wear i have been getting the bass 99% of the time drawing them out from the pads so i threw harder to get to it. that does make since. i think i might just have to learn properly how to throw farther. don't know how true it is but some people claim they can cast 100 yards easy. but yea ill try the star, and hopefully that will work. even with my thumb on the line though at some point during the cast when the line stops coming out going further the spool still spins not every time but it does maybe thats when i try to throw hard to get further distance. when i throw gently i only get to about 20-25 yards but no problems when i try to throw hard to get more distance now that a few of you said something when i did get the back lash i was throwing harder then normal to get more distance.

[Diggy]

Diggy, that was a nice description and explanation imho.

yes, The gentleman that wrote that up knows his stuff.

[Scorcher214]

It's just learning how to thumb the spool correctly. On short casts, there isn't as much force spinning the spool. When the bait hits the water and the line is no longer being pulled by the bait, the spool will stop and or not over run on you that much. On the longer casts, there's enough force to keep the spool spinning even after the bait loses momentum and goes into the water. Ya just gotta learn when to stop the spool from spinning with your thumb when the bait hits the water.

[bigt89]

thats the thing though with my thumb on the spool its not when it hits that water its while its still in the air usually within the first 3 seconds of cast. just seems like even when i stop it my self the spool it self still moves a little

[Hooligan]

Then you need more spool tension and/or higher brake settings. It isn't the line's fault.

[LgMouthGambler]

Best advice I can give is get rid of the reel and get one that has centrifical brakes.

[Deleted account]

Stiff line will be more prone to do that, some practice, a tad more brake and a "slower" oil on the spool bearings will help (but then you won't be able to sit there playing with your reel and stare at your spool while it spins for ever, can't have everything)...