Looking To Upgrade From Yozuri. Tatsu Maybe?

[skeletor6]

So I just bought a new rod with help from you guys. It is a Powell Max 703c. I have a Lews TS1H baitcasting reel and I have been using yozuri 12# hybrid line. My biggest problem I have had is been with its sensitivity other than that it's been great. I plan on using yozuri on my other reels but want to upgrade my line on my beloved combo.

I've read through many of threads of fluorocarbon vs braid and the waters I fish here in Michigan are primarily clear except for Mona lake which is stained. The other two lakes I fish are clear. So that is leaning me towards fluorocarbon I suppose. I've read hooligan's post where he raves about Tatsu's superiority and it really makes it seem like everything else fails in comparison. If I choose fluorocarbon is tatsu really worth it?

There are many pike in my waters and they tend to prey on my lures even while fishing for bass. My buddy used braid for the first time and was really impressed with its sensitivity and thought it would hold up better against the pike although while fishing a pike broke off his line. Nonetheless, my worries of choosing braid are that it will slow down the fall rate of weightless plastics and during times of slack line I will not be able to detect bites. Also, this combo has cost me 5 times as much as the others and i do notbwant braid digging into my spool or damaging my rod. After all the my worries about choosing braid I remain open and objective in choosing it if it's the best choice. As far as using braid with a leader I jjust am not open to the idea I want to completely spool with one line on this rod and reel.

To finalize, I only have three rods and reels. The one I am talking about is my go to primarily used all around combo that I will throw anything on it besides top water for which I designate another combo of mine. All suggestions, comments, experiences, and advice would be greatly appreciated in lieu of me finalizing my first baitcasting combo that I can be proud of.

Thank you.

Skel

[pondassasin]

You might want to try something not in the upper echelon of fluorocarbons. Sunline Sniper FC goes for nearly half the price of Tatsu and I've had zero problems with it. I'm sure it's not tatsu-like but it casts easy, has good abrasion resistance, and is very strong. It has less stretch than yozuri and definitely more sensitivity. That being said, I'm dying to try a premium fluoro like Sunline Shooter, Today Upgrade, or Tatsu

[roadwarrior]

Sniper is a fine line and a better value, but if price isn't an issue...Tatsu is THE BOMB!

For treble hook lures and especially jerkbaits, the pros recommended

monofilament. I use Sunline Super Natural.

Note: I have been experimenting with a variety of lines and have decided to stay with Yo-Zuri

Hybrid as my primary brand. The closest 2nd is Izorline, another professional favorite.

[skeletor6]

Is sniper FC better than seaguar invizx? Ill also be jigging and using a lot of plastics so Im not going to go with monofilament.

Yozuri has done a good job for me too I just want something nice for my nicer rod.

[roadwarrior]

I gave up on InvizX, but I still have a baitcasting reel spooled up with AbrazX.

[skeletor6]

So its either sniper or tatsu. Would there be a huge difference in sensitivity, knot strength, memory, and casting if if I went with tatsu?

If tatsu truly makes a big difference which will result in more fish being caught then I don't mind spending the extra money since it will probably last me a couple years.

What do you guys think?

Thanks

[pondassasin]

Invizx has way too much stretch for me and the abrasion resistance isn't very good either.

[rangerjockey]

I'm not a fan of invizx either . I like sniper or good ol' trilene 100% . As far as Tatsu I've not tried it but I have heard good things . If your experienced with a baitcaster I would say give it a try if not, thats a expensive backlash.

[new2BC4bass]

Have you read tackletour's fluorocarbon line shootout? http://www.tackletou...carbontest.html

Personally I have a problem spending Tatsu's price on a line. I suppose if I fished where a world record was possible even for a poor fisherman like me, then I might spring for the absolute best regardless of cost. An occasional lost fish is part of the game. Too many lost is another story.

Make sure your friend understands that braid may be very strong...and sensitive under tension, but that its abrasive resistance is not very good. He may want a leader for those pike and Northerns.

[LgMouthGambler]

BPS fluoro is really nice IMO.

[ww2farmer]

Just about anything is better than Yo-zuri IMO, I hated that stuff, but then again I hate anything BUT braid as main line. I do use fluoro leaders, and have been fond of Seaguars Abraz-x lately.

[barroncooper]

I think that you'll be perfectly happy with sniper. yes the tatsu is " the bomb" . it is a little more manageable and casts like a dream all the way up to 20# but I dont think that it's worth double what sniper is. ive tried the toray and shooter. super sensitive, fair knot strength, super abrasion resistant, super strong and curls up like some you know what hairs. I personally think that the value is in sniper! tatsu has the lowest memory I've experienced in fluouros but a little memory is something that I can live with to experience the sensitivity that sniper has to offer. oh and I don't think that tatsu will make you catch more fish than say sniper or another line.

[iabass8]

I won a free spool of tatsu a couple weeks ago and put it on my open water/light cover jig/worm rod. I would have a hard time spending 40$ for a spool of line but i will be very sad when the line runs out. The stuff is AMAZING. I do use 3 different types of fluoro for different applications and sniper is top notch as well.

[Hooligan]

Tatsus is incredibly superior to everything out there, there's just no comparison. I've fished them, and I still go back to the best. In terms of longevity alone, Tatsu pans out cost wise.

[RyneB]

i used Seaguar Red Label and i have been more than impressed with it compared to other fluoros i have tried. It does have a bit of stretch, but the knot strength is above what i expected. It is by far the most manageable fluoro i have used and it wont break the bank.

[skeletor6]

Have you read tackletour's fluorocarbon line shootout? http://www.tackletou...carbontest.html

Personally I have a problem spending Tatsu's price on a line. I suppose if I fished where a world record was possible even for a poor fisherman like me, then I might spring for the absolute best regardless of cost. An occasional lost fish is part of the game. Too many lost is another story.

Make sure your friend understands that braid may be very strong...and sensitive under tension, but that its abrasive resistance is not very good. He may want a leader for those pike and Northerns.

I have not read that it was very informative. I,appreciate the reference to the article. Tatsu's price is surely shocking. I will be sure to run the idea of a leader by him to see what he thinks.

I think that you'll be perfectly happy with sniper. yes the tatsu is " the bomb" . it is a little more manageable and casts like a dream all the way up to 20# but I dont think that it's worth double what sniper is. ive tried the toray and shooter. super sensitive, fair knot strength, super abrasion resistant, super strong and curls up like some you know what hairs. I personally think that the value is in sniper! tatsu has the lowest memory I've experienced in fluouros but a little memory is something that I can live with to experience the sensitivity that sniper has to offer. oh and I don't think that tatsu will make you catch more fish than say sniper or another line.

Catching more fish is the ultimate goal. Spending more for a line that will not catch more fish is not what I wish to do. Therefore, I should spend the least that I can which will allow me to catch the greatest amount of fish. Sniper is what seems to be the choice in those regards.

Hearing about Tatsu's superiority does lead one to question if it actually will result in catching a higher number of fish, but surely fishing line isn't the number one component that leads one to land fish. Which then leaves one to ponder the value that should be placed on said component.

Thank you very much for your comments.

I won a free spool of tatsu a couple weeks ago and put it on my open water/light cover jig/worm rod. I would have a hard time spending 40$ for a spool of line but i will be very sad when the line runs out. The stuff is AMAZING. I do use 3 different types of fluoro for different applications and sniper is top notch as well.

What specific qualities did you find most admirable with tatsu, that the other fluoros you used lack in?

Tatsus is incredibly superior to everything out there, there's just no comparison. I've fished them, and I still go back to the best. In terms of longevity alone, Tatsu pans out cost wise.

Hooligan, your many posts alone are the only reason I've even considered purchasing such a line. The cost versus longevity argument you present does seem to be one that would apply well to my specific situation. I do not have many rods, actually only three. Only one have I decided to make of the highest quality components that I could reasonably afford. In my experience, I do not often change line. I changed to yozuri from mono only to be disappointed. I've always had problems with sensitivity and detecting bites and have never truly felt attached to my bait as to know exactly how I am presenting it.

This likely has been because of my equipment. Until stumbling onto this forum I believed in many fallacies regarding fishing equipment which has lead to a recent splurge so I could find out exactly what it's like to fish with quality equipment. I've enjoyed reading others experiences and tactics which has lead me to improve and change how I fish and approach fishing in general.

I am unaware as to which plays a greater role in sensitivity, that being, the rod or the line. Using a $17 rod and yozuri line has not allowed me to judge for myself. I solved the rod issue with help from you guys in purchasing a Powell max 703c. Hooligan, you mention that tatsu is superior in every way to other fluorocarbons. What do you believe is the most noticeable and advantageous quality and/or qualities that tatsu exhibits over other fluorocarbons using Sniper FC for comparative purposes.

Thank you all for your time and generosity.

[Quillback]

I use Abrazx myself, works fine for me, sensitive and reasonably durable. One thing I do and I would certainly do with an expensive line like Tatsu, is spool on some cheap mono as backing.

[iabass8]

The line is very managable and smooth. Probably second to none. I use 3 different fluoros for specific reasons though. Red label for squarebills and lipless cranks because it has less stretch than most others. Sniper for casting drop shot and was my worm open water jig line that was replaced by tatsu. "Manageability" hasn't been a huge concern because ive found as long as you use line conditioners and adjust break settings fluoro isnt that difficult. There are some flops out there though. Tatsu is just very easy to fish with and is an extremely sensitive line. Sunline is also.

[skeletor6]

I use Abrazx myself, works fine for me, sensitive and reasonably durable. One thing I do and I would certainly do with an expensive line like Tatsu, is spool on some cheap mono as backing.

That's a good idea thanks.

The line is very managable and smooth. Probably second to none. I use 3 different fluoros for specific reasons though. Red label for squarebills and lipless cranks because it has less stretch than most others. Sniper for casting drop shot and was my worm open water jig line that was replaced by tatsu. "Manageability" hasn't been a huge concern because ive found as long as you use line conditioners and adjust break settings fluoro isnt that difficult. There are some flops out there though. Tatsu is just very easy to fish with and is an extremely sensitive line. Sunline is also.

Thank you for the review that cleared up some of the comparison questions that I was curious about.

[Chris at Tech]

Invisx on spinning rods, Berkley 100% Fluoro on baitcasters.

Be sure to use KVD L&L conditioner liberally upon spooling, and before use and you'll be fine. Based on my experience, I have no reason to pay $40/spool for Tatsu.

[Hi Salenity]

I used 15# Tatsu for 2 days before I took it off. It was tooo streeetchy for me and what I was using it for. (long casts with a 5/0 jig)

I've always wondered if it was the line or the KVD L&L?

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

KVD L&L is a coating and won't cause line to stretch any more than it already does.