Super User Crestliner2008 Posted July 24, 2012 Super User Posted July 24, 2012 I'll be honest with you folks. The designers of this line really screwed it up. I was very optimistic about Nanofil when it first appeared on the stage. Tried the 2# & 4# test on my 7' UL rig for crappie & bluegill. Total failure! Line kept breaking off. Could not find a knot to use with any kind of leader. Tried uni-uni, alberto, blood knot. Nothing worked. Breakage always occurred at the main line knot, not the leader. Then I tried tying direct to my jigs, using their "nano-knot". Same thing; line break-offs at the jig. I even tried a very slow "sweep-set". After loosing way too many expensive non-lead jigs (MA requirement now), I went back to my old reliable, Trilene XL. No problems....no worries. Now I'm not quite sure why I switched in the first place! I also tried 10# test and the 12# test. Tied to a small Spro Powerswivel, with a 2 1/2' section of fluoro. Tried texas rigging some Senkos and again, lost about 1/2 dozen rigs - at the swivel knot. Tied direct and same thing. Tried doubling the "nano-knot" and that worked for awhile, but I still had a few break offs. If I use it with a circle hook, no problem; however, with any kind of "hook-set" being required, the odds are pretty good that I'll break off. Very disappointed. I've been fishing a very long time and am quite proficient at tying knots. I just can't imagine how this line has survived the market place. Am I the only one experiencing these problems? Guess I'll be switching back to Fireline and PowerPro on my heavier rigs. Expensive testing! 1 Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted July 24, 2012 Super User Posted July 24, 2012 Good thing to know. I was looking at it at DSG's Sunday, but passed. Glad I did. I am trying 10# Sufix 832 in white on a ML spinning outfit. Didn't catch any fish Sunday with it, but did haul in this humongous clump of weeds. Thought for sure it would break. Didn't. I feel your pain about losing all that terminal tackle. Too expensive these days to lose very many. Heck, I almost cried when I lost a 1/2 oz. spinnerbait in the Delaware the other day. Quote
Super User LgMouthGambler Posted July 24, 2012 Super User Posted July 24, 2012 It should be called NoNoFill! Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted July 24, 2012 Super User Posted July 24, 2012 My buddy from Florence spooled up brand new line this weekend against my recommendation. After a few hours he respooled. The line has ABSOLUTELY NO ABRASION RESISTANCE. It was pitiful. Quote
moguy1973 Posted July 24, 2012 Posted July 24, 2012 I never had break offs at the knot (Palomar) but the line isn't strong at all and would break at the slightest snag up I would have. I junked it for some pline cx and haven't looked back. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted July 24, 2012 Super User Posted July 24, 2012 Crestliner... I've been using two spinning reels with 10lb NanoFil + 10lb Sensation leader since June 2011, one spinning reel with 8lb NanoFil + 6lb leader since this past June (2012) and recently spooled a finesse baitcaster with 17lb NanoFil + 10lb leader. They are used primarily smallmouth fishing, but I catch my share of walleye, large white bass, drum, northern pike and muskies as well. I haven't had break off problems as you've reported. Very early on using NanoFil I learned to leave 1/2" of tag line with my NanoFil knots to accommodate any slippage that occurred with the line (that stuff is SLICK). I haven't used the 17lb/baitcasting combination long enough to form an opinion... I'll report back after a couple of weeks use. oe Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted July 25, 2012 Global Moderator Posted July 25, 2012 I've got one spinning reel with 8lb and one with 12lb Nanofil, both have flouro leaders. I've been attaching mine with back to back uni knots and skipping swimbaits under cables and senkos under docks, pulling fish back across crossbars with no issues. The main thing for me has been to throughly check my knots before I starting to fish with it. I really like the stuff and enjoy fishing with it. I could count the number of breakoffs I've had on one hand. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted July 25, 2012 Super User Posted July 25, 2012 I've been fishing a very long time and am quite proficient at tying knots. Try this- double the line over a good foot or so -go through the eye twice - 7 turn UNI knot-1/4" tag This is working very well for me with 6# on wacky rigged senko #2 weedless hook. Quote
mikeeasttn Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 I tried the Nanofil this sring in 10#. After losing two crankbaits that broke off on the hook set i replaced the line and have not used it again. Have a friend that tried to fish light jigs but from what he said he had the same problems I had. His and my experience is all I know about first hand but from what I have read on the forums a person is asking for a headache using this line even through it cast great. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted July 25, 2012 Super User Posted July 25, 2012 Thats dissapointing..........I was thinking of using it on my ice fishing rods this winter, I guess I will stick with Micro Ice. Quote
WdyCrankbait Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 Yeah, I have had some issues with the line breaking easily. Great concept, just not sure it was perfected. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted July 25, 2012 Super User Posted July 25, 2012 just not sure it was perfected. I look at everything as a "work in progress". oe Quote
Super User smalljaw67 Posted July 25, 2012 Super User Posted July 25, 2012 One thing that every review of this line mentioned was that you cannot use it in or around cover as there is almost zero abrasion resistance. Once I read that I knew I'd never even try this line, where does someone fish at that they won't encounter cover of some type, no cover no fish is my school of thought but whatever, at least it is another reminder not to even think about using it. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted July 25, 2012 Super User Posted July 25, 2012 One thing that every review of this line mentioned was that you cannot use it in or around cover as there is almost zero abrasion resistance. Once I read that I knew I'd never even try this line, where does someone fish at that they won't encounter cover of some type, no cover no fish is my school of thought but whatever, at least it is another reminder not to even think about using it. It's worse than that. A standard bullet weight nearly wore through my buddy's line! I consider it "unfishable". Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted July 25, 2012 Super User Posted July 25, 2012 I've used it in 10# and 12# for walleye (mostly) and smallmouth. On the miss, zebra muscles just eat it alive. Ive had the line fray and break easilyy in snags but i don't believe i ever lost any fish (including 15# flatheads) with the line. It is a very "sensitive" line. I did use 6-8# fluoro leaders for smallmouth l. I was able to pull (had to really tug) the nanofil-braid knot out but still didnt lose a fish with it. I also cannot stand the noise it makes on my legend xtreme recoils. It just screeches. 10/2 pp s8s does not. Since i didnt have any leader issues i do find myself going bqck to itonce in a while for casting dropshots and mojo rigs because you will outcast other lines with ease.However with high vis yellow now avaliable in nanofil i may try it again but i wont be in any rush. Quote
cueball Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 Couple of thoughts. Dyneema lines are by their nature thin so they lack abrasion resistance and slippery so they are hard to tie knots. I was just on vacation for a week and used 6# Nanofil on my primary drop shot rod for the entire week. The only problem I had was that my fluorocarbon leader broke at the knot with the Nanofil after fishing with it for 4 days. I blame myself. Normally I would have broke off the leader enough to need to retie before then. I used a 8# BPS XPS fluorocarbon leader tied to the Nanofil with a 10 turn Alberto knot. With most braid I use 8 turns, but heard that Nanofil was slippery so I upped it to 10. Never broke off a fish and when snagged broke the sinker off every time. I think it is important to remember that lines are being designed for very specific situations. I don't think Nanofil is a general purpose line. I think using Nanofil just like you would Power Pro or Sufix 832 could lead to problems. I have always tied a leader to any braid, not because of visibility concerns, but because of knot strength, abrasion resistance and ability to break off on snags. Braids have been formulated to have better abrasion resistance, but when the first came out the big complaints were it was hard to tie knots and no abrasion resistance. I thought the biggest advantage to the Nanofil is how it felt when in the water. I have several rods with Sufix 832, compared to the Nanofil it felt like the 832 had a lot of drag in the water. In fact, I was able fish a lighter drop shot sinker with the Nanofil than I could with the 832. A couple of final thoughts. Increase the number of wraps for any knot with slippery line. The slipperiness that makes it hard to get a knot to hold, also makes it easier to tighten the knot so you can use more wraps. I purchased a ring that is used by wrapping the braid around it to help pull knots. You can pull knots much tighter and you don't cut your hand or fingers. I think it is a very useful tool. Quote
CybrSlydr Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 So, I've been very disappointed with the 8# Nanofil. Absolutely adore it's ability to cast a country mile (especially since I shore-fish) but I've had similar issues as above - the knot will just not hold.  So I'm asking you folks - is there a similar line out there that can cast similarly but the knots actually hold? Gliss? Appreciate the input! Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted January 22, 2017 Super User Posted January 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, CybrSlydr said: So, I've been very disappointed with the 8# Nanofil. Absolutely adore it's ability to cast a country mile (especially since I shore-fish) but I've had similar issues as above - the knot will just not hold.  So I'm asking you folks - is there a similar line out there that can cast similarly but the knots actually hold? Gliss? Appreciate the input!  Back from the archives ~ Yours & mine A-Jay 3 Quote
CybrSlydr Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 Would I have a different experience with a spinning setup vs your casting? Â Especially with some in the sub-10lb. Quote
Loomis13 Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 Suffix Nanobraid has been better for me than nanofil. Only tired it on spinning though. 1 Quote
d-camarena Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 I have found that nanofil has its advantages... In the garbage Quote
Super User RoLo Posted January 23, 2017 Super User Posted January 23, 2017 I well remember A-Jay's field report on Nanofil line. Knowing the integrity with which he writes, that was enough to "keep me at bay". After reading Crestliner's review, I'm revamping that passage to "dodging the bullet" Â Â Roger 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted January 23, 2017 Global Moderator Posted January 23, 2017 I liked Nanofil, but Gliss is better and has taken it'splace. 1 Quote
Super User burrows Posted January 23, 2017 Super User Posted January 23, 2017 On 7/24/2012 at 3:37 AM, Crestliner2008 said: I'll be honest with you folks. The designers of this line really screwed it up. I was very optimistic about Nanofil when it first appeared on the stage. Tried the 2# & 4# test on my 7' UL rig for crappie & bluegill. Total failure! Line kept breaking off. Could not find a knot to use with any kind of leader. Tried uni-uni, alberto, blood knot. Nothing worked. Breakage always occurred at the main line knot, not the leader. Then I tried tying direct to my jigs, using their "nano-knot". Same thing; line break-offs at the jig. I even tried a very slow "sweep-set". After loosing way too many expensive non-lead jigs (MA requirement now), I went back to my old reliable, Trilene XL. No problems....no worries. Now I'm not quite sure why I switched in the first place! I also tried 10# test and the 12# test. Tied to a small Spro Powerswivel, with a 2 1/2' section of fluoro. Tried texas rigging some Senkos and again, lost about 1/2 dozen rigs - at the swivel knot. Tied direct and same thing. Tried doubling the "nano-knot" and that worked for awhile, but I still had a few break offs. If I use it with a circle hook, no problem; however, with any kind of "hook-set" being required, the odds are pretty good that I'll break off. Very disappointed. I've been fishing a very long time and am quite proficient at tying knots. I just can't imagine how this line has survived the market place. Am I the only one experiencing these problems? Guess I'll be switching back to Fireline and PowerPro on my heavier rigs. Expensive testing! I can't believe you tried it 4 times till you finally gave up on it:/ I think I would have learned the first time . Quote
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