Poison Tail Jig

[HookSetDon]

Im thinking about getting one of these molds for 1/2 , 3/4 and 1 oz.

How do you like them? Do you prefer them over the standard arkies? I like how you can get a heavier jig with them without the bulky bullet head style. what hooks are best for this mold? I plan on using this as a flipping jig primarily.

[Jig Man]

I like it so well that I sold my football and Arke molds.

Mustad 91768BLN is the hook I use. I buy from Shorty's Hook Sales by 1000 ct. If you don't have a tax number then go to Captain Hooks.

[HookSetDon]

what size hooks are you using for the 1/2 3/4 and 1 oz?

[smalljaw67]

Take a look at the "weedless hair jigs" thread, those are made with the smaller poison tail mold. I use the 91768BLN hook also as I felt that hook is really good, no need to use a different style. In the bigger styles use a 5/0 hook, believe it or not I've fished pretty heavy cover and never had a problem with it but it is the smallest flipping hook I ever used in terms of thickness. You should like the mold though, the jigs are balanced really well and the hook is a sticker, I rarely lose a fish caught on that jig.

[HookSetDon]

Thanks, that's what concerned me. The hook look awfully light. Is there a heavier hook that the mold would accept in the event I have issues? I saw online someone is making it with a 30 degree 3x hook but not sure which kind

[smalljaw67]

Thanks, that's what concerned me. The hook look awfully light. Is there a heavier hook that the mold would accept in the event I have issues? I saw online someone is making it with a 30 degree 3x hook but not sure which kind

I use a 4/0 in the 3/8oz cavity and I never had a problem with it and I've caught some nice bass over 4lb out of brush and the hook holds well, that is probably the best quality of the hook is how well it holds. The sizes you are going to use are really stout, they aren't quite as thick as a flipping hook but it is still quite strong which is why I haven't looked for an alternative and I'm picky with hooks, especially for flipping jigs. There is another hook that fits it without modifying the mold but the wire diameter is still the same. If you buy hooks on a regular basis from the same source you can ask them for a sample hook when you place an order, I do it all the time with Captain hooks but I also get hooks from them every 2 months and I've been a customer for years.

[HookSetDon]

Looks like I'll be adding another mold to my collection. Thanks for weighing in.

[smalljaw67]

Looks like I'll be adding another mold to my collection. Thanks for weighing in.

Looks like I'll be adding another mold to my collection. Thanks for weighing in.

You'll like the jig that mold makes, trust me!

[shimmy]

disagree with some statements here. The poison tail jig is actually the least stable jig in terms of resting on the bottom. For example, put the jig head, lets say a 1/4 oz jig head with either a 3/0 or 4/0 hook in water in the sink or tub and it will flip over on its side. Without the right trailer, these jigs flip over on their side. Not sure how much of a difference that makes, but i only use these jigs with floating trailers to keep it more upright and even then, i have to make more modifications to keep it up. Arkies are less likely to do this. However, in terms of hook up ratio, when i get a bite on this jig, i can probably count on one hand how many of them have thrown the jig. They don't come off. The angle and design just keep them on and the hooks bend but it just doesn't seem to cause problems. I use it on 20 pound line. Hope this helps

[mikey5string]

disagree with some statements here. The poison tail jig is actually the least stable jig in terms of resting on the bottom. For example, put the jig head, lets say a 1/4 oz jig head with either a 3/0 or 4/0 hook in water in the sink or tub and it will flip over on its side. Without the right trailer, these jigs flip over on their side. Not sure how much of a difference that makes, but i only use these jigs with floating trailers to keep it more upright and even then, i have to make more modifications to keep it up. Arkies are less likely to do this. However, in terms of hook up ratio, when i get a bite on this jig, i can probably count on one hand how many of them have thrown the jig. They don't come off. The angle and design just keep them on and the hooks bend but it just doesn't seem to cause problems. I use it on 20 pound line. Hope this helps

How many times do you use a stand up jig without a trailer?

[shimmy]

How many times do you use a stand up jig without a trailer?

Thought it was made clear but maybe not. The jig with many sorts of plastic trailers will flip over on its side in the water. Put the jig with a trailer, skirt and all, in the tub and certain trailers will turn to the side. Mentioned the jig head alone because several jig heads take a lot to turn on their side. Hope this helps you out.

[mikey5string]

It does thanks.

I think any most stand up jigs, like shakey heads, eventually tip in the water. The pull of the line is enough to set it upright again. As long as you keep contact with the jig it should stay up. That and using the right bait. I usually use longer more slender plastics like the zoom trick worm.

For flipping jigs, the line tie should keep the bait upright as long as it doesn't sit too long on slack line. It probably won't be sitting on the bottom too long anyway.

[smalljaw67]

disagree with some statements here. The poison tail jig is actually the least stable jig in terms of resting on the bottom. For example, put the jig head, lets say a 1/4 oz jig head with either a 3/0 or 4/0 hook in water in the sink or tub and it will flip over on its side. Without the right trailer, these jigs flip over on their side. Not sure how much of a difference that makes, but i only use these jigs with floating trailers to keep it more upright and even then, i have to make more modifications to keep it up. Arkies are less likely to do this. However, in terms of hook up ratio, when i get a bite on this jig, i can probably count on one hand how many of them have thrown the jig. They don't come off. The angle and design just keep them on and the hooks bend but it just doesn't seem to cause problems. I use it on 20 pound line. Hope this helps

Jigs with flat bottoms that are designed to stand will stand on the bottom of a tub but not a lake bottom, I proved to a friend that a round head shaky head will stand better than a spot remover head so we dropped both in clear water about 3 or 4 feet deep and guess what, the round head stood stright longer than the spot remover but both eventually fell over after a few seconds. The poison tail jig is a rocker style head which is any jig that has a rounded contact surface like that of a rocking chair, they are designed to be slowly dragged , hopped , or flipped. Jiggs that are meant to stand up when not moving have large flat surface areas but on an uneven lake bottom it really doesnt matter, take a good look at grass jigs or a lot of heavy flipping jigs, that have a cone or bullet shape to go through cover, hit the bottom and then come back through the cover and they catch fish. I really think the stand up concept with jig fishing is a little over rated but I will say one thing, the poison tail does keep fish pinned, the hook design works perfectly with the head which is why very few fish can throw it.