Super User A-Jay Posted July 18, 2012 Super User Posted July 18, 2012 The offseason can be a tumultuous time for many athletes as they struggle to fill the free time usually taken up by team activities, and many unfortunately turn to less than recommendable behavior. A grand total of 25 NFL players have been arrested since the Suber Bowl. (2 guys Twice) In other words, the season can't get here soon enough. Makes me ask - where would these guys be if they hadn't been drafted ? Link to article below A-Jay http://www.businessi...per-bowl-2012-7 http://media.nesn.com/2012/07/nick-fairley-marshawn-lynch-dez-bryant-among-25-nfl-players-arrested-since-super-bowl/1/ Quote
Super User Redlinerobert Posted July 18, 2012 Super User Posted July 18, 2012 oops. I'm partially responsible for one of them. Quote
tipptruck1 Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 For some reason this dose not surprise me. The sad thing is they will all get suspended. Goodell has the mind that guilty in till proven guilty. What these players do off the field. Should not matter one bit. As long as its not effecting there on field activities. Yes I know what there doing is wrong. Its still wrong to punish them for off field things. As long as there not shooting any one, drunk driving, and doing drugs. It should not matter. I also know the NFL knows these players are kids role models. I am sorry you should not have a person you do not know as a role model. Kids role models should be some one they know. Not a over paid athlete they will never know. These NFl stars have nothing on Euro soccer guys. They get arrested all the time. Almost every week at lest one get arrested. Quote
Super User Long Mike Posted July 18, 2012 Super User Posted July 18, 2012 Gee! Only 25 players? Quote
Super User Redlinerobert Posted July 19, 2012 Super User Posted July 19, 2012 I absolutely guarantee you that they will not all get suspended. Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted July 19, 2012 Super User Posted July 19, 2012 As long as there not shooting any one, drunk driving, and doing drugs. It should not matter. That was like, 90% of those arrests, haha. Quote
tipptruck1 Posted July 19, 2012 Posted July 19, 2012 That was like, 90% of those arrests, haha. really that's bad. That also proves I do not pay attention to the NFL from February to September. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted July 19, 2012 Super User Posted July 19, 2012 Gladiators...Real people are not that big, that strong or that fast. The only thing they have in common with the rest of us is the STUPID gene. It's fed by fame and fortune. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 19, 2012 Author Super User Posted July 19, 2012 The only thing they have in common with the rest of us is the STUPID gene. It's fed by fame and fortune. I have been known to take an occasional trip down "stupid lane" - but I certainly don't have either of those . . . . A-Jay Quote
Super User Sam Posted July 19, 2012 Super User Posted July 19, 2012 Tipp, in this day and age what you do off the field has an impact on your team and college. The players are in the "spotlight" for anything bad they do. Newspapers pick up the stories and coaches have to enforce their rules by suspending a player for a game or two, or in the case of some schools, the first quarter of the first game. Professional athletes have clauses in their contracts that can be used against them if they get arrested or have conduct detrimental to their team. College teams do the same and coaches are always suspending players before the season but miraculously reinstating them when the season starts. For NFL players who are big, fast and strong, getting into an altercation over thier play or their team's play is a sucker's game that they get sucked into all the time. Their first reaction is physical force. I don't think they want to have an intelligent debate after hitting the bar for a few hours. And there are the "little guys" who feel bigger and stronger after a few stiff ones that take on the NFL guys which is not a smart move. And who gets into trouble with these altercations? Not the little guy. He runs and hides. It is the pro that has to face the music as they are bigger and stronger and should not have done what they did as they have a tremendous physical advantage. But that is the life of the professional athlete. Bars, drinking, chasing women, driving too fast and in OJ's case, killing two people. It is part of the game for both college and professionals. And we hear about it because these guys are on the team. If it happened to us we would not make the newspaper or the badjocks.com web site. Quote
Super User Lund Explorer Posted July 19, 2012 Super User Posted July 19, 2012 Whatever susepnsions, if any, the Goodell hands out to these players is going to be rooted in one prior case. Michael Vick! For who knows how long, the jocks of the world have always been given the pass, whether in the classroom or in the community, for no other reason than they had the ability to play a game others wanted to watch. It starts in high school and goes all the way into the pros. However, when they witnessed the uproar generated by a single player who thought he could abuse a poor stupid animal for his own entertainment, the leadership of the NFL finally woke up to the fact that their "brand" was being harmed by these so called professionals. Yes, there were other players who got suspended prior to him, but Goodell has finally seen that the NFL must begin to grow a spine and stand up to their players that think that society's rules don't matter. Perhaps someday we'll see every team pass over drafting some of these players who have racked up a few DUI or drug arrests by the time they either graduate or are kicked out of college. Then maybe we'll see colleges doing the same thing. RW's comment about the "Stupid Gene"? I can't imagine most people would be stupid enough to risk a free college education or a multi-million dollar job just to drive drunk or to light up a doobie. Let alone to keep repeating the same thing over and over again. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted July 19, 2012 Super User Posted July 19, 2012 Even the typical jobs nowadays have 'good behavior' clauses outside of work. Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted July 19, 2012 Super User Posted July 19, 2012 I can never understand why guys with that level of income can not hire a driver for their nights out & avoid all the DUI. 1 Quote
Jake P Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 oops. I'm partially responsible for one of them. Which one? Quote
Super User AK-Jax86 Posted July 20, 2012 Super User Posted July 20, 2012 People make mistakes s*it happens! Its just magnified when the people it is happening too are athletes and make millions of dollars. thats a small percentage of the total number of people in the world! Now think about how many people WORLD WIDE have been arrested since the end of the Super Bowl.... I'd bet that it is a little more than 25 lol Quote
Super User South FLA Posted July 20, 2012 Super User Posted July 20, 2012 People get arrested everyday that are not NFL players! Here is an interesting study on NFL arrest, it is older (1999), but the conclusions may surprise you. http://www.stat.duke.edu/~dalene/chance/chanceweb/123.nflviol.pdf Another article on arrest of athletes vs general public http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ycn-10293063 Quote
Hyrule Bass Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 http://profootballta...rested-for-dui/ Make it 26, and there is probably more that were over looked by the article, or just havent come out yet... i doubt all will be suspended, probably just repeat offenders, and some will just be fined game checks. And if they are suspended, it wont be nothing comparable to the Mike Vick punishments... Quote
Super User Lund Explorer Posted July 20, 2012 Super User Posted July 20, 2012 http://profootballta...rested-for-dui/ Make it 26, and there is probably more that were over looked by the article, or just havent come out yet... i doubt all will be suspended, probably just repeat offenders, and some will just be fined game checks. And if they are suspended, it wont be nothing comparable to the Mike Vick punishments... # 25 on the list that A-Jay provided. If Mr. Dumervil's crime was committted in Michigan, a conviction with the possession of the firearm during a felony would earn him a minimum of 24 months in the big house without reagard to any other punishment. By far the most serious of all these incidents. Quote
Jig Meister Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Between obvious steroid use, and GH abuse, it is no wonder some of them feel they can act however they wish. It is obvious there is rampant substance abuse going on with NFL players, I wish they would just come out and admit it. I love football, but really, it is getting bad. Look at a few of the players. Really look at them, they are huge. I am into bodybuilding, as well as studying exercise science and I can tell normally when someone is on the sauce, there's obvious signs despite what anyone will say. 85% + of players are on one or more substances that are known or new. Couple increased hormones with a crappy family structure, and lack of upbringing, toss in money, girls, fame and you have a great disaster waiting to happen. And then you have people like Rex Ryan, who has a foot fetish.....gross..... Quote
Jig Meister Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 People get arrested everyday that are not NFL players! Here is an interesting study on NFL arrest, it is older (1999), but the conclusions may surprise you. http://www.stat.duke...123.nflviol.pdf Another article on arrest of athletes vs general public http://sports.yahoo....ug=ycn-10293063 Well, if you compare 20,000 people to 13 million of course the general population will get arrested more. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted July 20, 2012 Super User Posted July 20, 2012 Another article on arrest of athletes vs general public http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ycn-10293063 I'd like to see something more compairable than GP, like celebrities or at least people in the same tax bracket Quote
Hyrule Bass Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 # 25 on the list that A-Jay provided. If Mr. Dumervil's crime was committted in Michigan, a conviction with the possession of the firearm during a felony would earn him a minimum of 24 months in the big house without reagard to any other punishment. By far the most serious of all these incidents. ok yeah, Dumervil might get a serious suspension, but i still dont think it will be as harsh as Vicks. If Dumervil is honest when he talks to goodell he has a better chance at a lesser punishment. Vick lied to Goodell initially. In fact, i dont think the case to look at is Vicks, i would go back to Sean Taylors guns case(not his murder, his gun case) that happened in Florida as well, of course Tagliabue may have been commissioner back then, he wasnt as harsh in his punishments as Goodell, so maybe thats not a good baseline either. I dont think you will see any action taken against Dumervil by the league until the case is resolved, or atleast all the facts are straight, that could go along ways to determining the severity of his punishments. Regardless, many of these guys are stupid. Many make millions and the ones that dont make hundreds of thousands, and they drive drunk instead of paying for a taxi or a car service. Or they do something stupid like flash guns at people knowing they got millions of dollars on the line. idiots... Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted July 20, 2012 Super User Posted July 20, 2012 oops. I'm partially responsible for one of them. Ray Macdonald? Quote
Super User Lund Explorer Posted July 20, 2012 Super User Posted July 20, 2012 ok yeah, Dumervil might get a serious suspension, but i still dont think it will be as harsh as Vicks. If Dumervil is honest when he talks to goodell he has a better chance at a lesser punishment. Vick lied to Goodell initially. In fact, i dont think the case to look at is Vicks, i would go back to Sean Taylors guns case(not his murder, his gun case) that happened in Florida as well, of course Tagliabue may have been commissioner back then, he wasnt as harsh in his punishments as Goodell, so maybe thats not a good baseline either. I dont think you will see any action taken against Dumervil by the league until the case is resolved, or atleast all the facts are straight, that could go along ways to determining the severity of his punishments. Regardless, many of these guys are stupid. Many make millions and the ones that dont make hundreds of thousands, and they drive drunk instead of paying for a taxi or a car service. Or they do something stupid like flash guns at people knowing they got millions of dollars on the line. idiots... Actually, I think Goodell has suspended players before their trails were completed several times. While I'm almost sure his possible suspension won't be as bad a Vick's was, it will be the most severe of this year's crop. The Co-Runners-Up will be coming from the City of Detroit who went for quantity over quality! Quote
Super User South FLA Posted July 21, 2012 Super User Posted July 21, 2012 Well, if you compare 20,000 people to 13 million of course the general population will get arrested more. Of course it has to be compared as percentage, did you read the articles? Quote
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