Carolina Rigging Questions...

[Jim_M]

Little late to this party but hope to get a bit more detailed information. Just started using the C-rig, its catches fish and I like that.

Curious about the keeper thingy. Am I correct in guessing it 'can' eliminate the leader all together? For you anglers who use it successfully I have a couple questions.

1. Does the Keepers convenience out weigh the benefits of a smaller diameter leader line, of say mono, witch 'seems' to help my plastics in the buoyancy department?

*note, I use braid as the main with 6-8# mono leaders. If I hang up I can easily break it off at the hook thus saving the rest of the rig.

2. Does the Keepers convenience out weigh the benefits of the swivel minimizing line twist?

Thanks in Advance...

[BassinMD]

Not sure what the keeper thing is ? I c-rig when I can't get bit on a jig and I have always tied traditional, weight, bead, clacker, swivel, 15lb mono leader, hook. I also use braid on my c- rig rod to make te weight side knot tougher and less likely to break. But I am curious about this "keeper"

[Broke bass fisherman]

Not sure what the keeper thing is ? I c-rig when I can't get bit on a jig and I have always tied traditional, weight, bead, clacker, swivel, 15lb mono leader, hook. I also use braid on my c- rig rod to make te weight side knot tougher and less likely to break. But I am curious about this "keeper"

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[00 mod]

http://www.basspro.c...uct/23166/90182

I believe he is referring to these. And yes they work.

1. I don't use braid.....

2. shouldn't be too much line twist with a c-rig

Jeff

Edit*** guess I should have not opened so many tabs, so when I got to it, Gene had already answered your questions***

[Jim_M]

Not sure what the keeper thing is ? I c-rig when I can't get bit on a jig and I have always tied traditional, weight, bead, clacker, swivel, 15lb mono leader, hook. I also use braid on my c- rig rod to make te weight side knot tougher and less likely to break. But I am curious about this "keeper"

yes, a bit more info... here you go.

http://www.basspro.com/Carolina-Keeper/product/23166/90182?hvarAID=shopping_googleproductads&om_mmc=shopping_googleproductads&affcode_c=17kw2359705&SST=3710b9db-949c-b0a8-2a90-00000b6d3ca9

[BassinMD]

Ah gotcha, I can see where that would be useful for leader adjustment. Might have to give it a shot I am just kind of a traditionalist with a lot of things but assuming they hold well and all I don't see much wrong with using it. I personally like a 3/4 tungsten bullet weight faceted glass bead and a clacker I feel like the clicking it creates helps attract bass as it is generally a search type of bait. Another thing I like to do is put a bobber stopper about 1/2-3/4 inch in front of my weight, in my mind it is helping get more clacks. Not sure if it really is but gives me more confidence.

[mikey5string]

I dont like the carolina keeper. It is difficult to install (esp on braided line!) not good for your line to just slide it down and make adjustments and it picks up more weeds.

I would rather just toothpick it, or use a swivel. in the time it takes me to thread the line through the keeper while keeping strong even tension on it with wide nose pliers I can tie a knot.

I just started using C-rig more often. I use a thin sinker with swivels built into each side. Thinks its called a mojo weight? ANyway, that allows me to have some rigs made and just tie one on and be done.

[B@ssCrzy]

I have not bought the carolina keepers for the sole fact that I like using braid for the main line, but then the ability to use mono for the leader. On long casts I like the feel of braid and the ability to get a good hook set with no stretch. It also allows me to break off the leader if it gets snagged and still come away with my weight. To each his own I guess.

[Jim_M]

OK. The C-Keepers will have a permanent home on my light tackle split shot set up. I am using 6-8# fluoro and the pinch type sinkers never stay where I want them so, problem solved. Jury is still out for me using the Keeper on the heavy Carolina rig, but will work with it this weekend. Thinking I might have issues threading 50# Sufix 832 through the Keeper. I'll bring back up.

[logan9209]

I would rather just toothpick it, or use a swivel. in the time it takes me to thread the line through the keeper while keeping strong even tension on it with wide nose pliers I can tie a knot.

I was under the impression that the weight moving somewhat free would cause it to hit your bead which in turn would create a clacking noise. So why would anyone peg the weight on a c-rig? I have one of those pre rigged c-rig and all i have to do is tie the line to one end and the leader with the lure to the other lure. But the weight can still slide around about 1"-1-1/2".

I'm not knocking you for it (except it does damage the line), I'm not understanding the logic behind it.

[mikey5string]

I bought a pack and used them several times. I think they are a fine product, just dont see how they save any time or eliminate much at all. They were a little tough to open too like I mentioned, they are difficult to open with needle nose pliers (the type most fisherman carry). I think a swivel is just as convenient. I dont c-rig as much as other techniques so I suppose that for someone who really uses them a lot, little things matter.

I use a toothpick on braid when I peg bullet weights flipping mats. I dont think braid get damaged much but you are right, I would be hesitant to do it with other lines.

logan,

I suppose some add the clacking for presentation, I dont. I use the c rig so I can get a "weightless" worm floating and free-falling within a controlled distance off the bottom (however long my leader is). I never really understood the use of the bullet weight besides clacking - but I think that was a residual effect. It was probably what they had available when the technique gained popularity. There are a few weights out now made specifically for carolina rigging.

[logan9209]

Once again, I was of the understanding that the bullet weight was for punching through heavy cover like weeds. Don't get me wrong, I would rather listen to the people on here than to some I've run across. However, in a way it seems that you have to get a general consensus of other fishermen/women and then find what works for you.

The only hit on a c-rig that I've ever had was when I was using 8# test with a 3/16 ounce bullet weight, bead, and swivel on a ml spinning gear. The draw back to using a lighter rig like that is that you can't really get a feel for the bottom which is half of the reason for using it to begin with (the other more important half is the semi floating lure).

[logan9209]

Okay. Maybe I can finish the reply without a storm knocking out my power. I finally caught a bass using a Zoom Speed Craw. I've had those for darn near 3 months. What's that got to do with a c-rig you ask? It just so happens that my craw was on the end of the pre-rigged c-rig. So, I'm happy on both accounts.

It's funny too. I caught the bass right before the storm got too close. And I came in here to post about it (trying to race the storm). I was almost done and the power got knocked out. That was at 7pm and it didn't come back on till 1am. I know, there are people (half a million) without power through out parts of the U.S. and with this heat I feel bad for them.