BASSHUNTER1961 Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 OK, I went out and bought some braided line for the very first time, and gave it a try. Equipment notes: AG Vendetta 6' 6" M Rod Pflueger President 6935 10# mono backing 40# braid equal to 10# mono 5' FC leader Alberto knot for line to line connections. I have lost a great deal of casting distance with this setup compared to using a spool of 10# mono on this same setup approx 15-20 yards. So, is this normal when using braid? I have the braid to leader connection set so it is just above the first guide (closest to the reel)........ The feel is very good, but I'm not impressed with the loss in casting distance. Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted July 1, 2012 Super User Posted July 1, 2012 What kind of braid are you using? And what pound test is your leader? Quote
BASSHUNTER1961 Posted July 1, 2012 Author Posted July 1, 2012 What kind of braid are you using? And what pound test is your leader? Stren Sonic Braid with 12# test leader....... I bought just to try and it may no be very good. Quote
Super User deep Posted July 1, 2012 Super User Posted July 1, 2012 What kind of braid are you using? Yeah, that might be it. Some braids like Samurai are limp right out of the box. Quote
JigMe Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 I started using braided line myself this year, and bought a spool of Power pro 50lb for top water. The casting distance is no differ than mono, and I don't use leader. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted July 1, 2012 Super User Posted July 1, 2012 The braid I have used is very soft and flows off the reel well (PowerPro, Sufix Performance, Samurai). I don't notice a loss in casting distance. I've got 30 lb Fireline on a spinning reel, but haven't used any other line on the reel yet, so don't know if it casts as well as mono. No experience with Sonic. I have read that some braids require a short break in period. Maybe Sonic is one of them. Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted July 1, 2012 Super User Posted July 1, 2012 15-20 yards is a lot of distance. In my findings braid increases your distance due to no memory. It could just be operator error :? Quote
BamaBassChaser Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 I also noticed an increase when I switched from mono to 50# PP. I'm not sure why you would lose that much distance. Quote
BassThumb Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 I've always found that braid increases casting distance, and it casts even further once it's broken it. Quote
BASSHUNTER1961 Posted July 1, 2012 Author Posted July 1, 2012 Thanks to all for the tips.... I solved the problem, and that's all I will say Quote
Bair Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 Thanks to all for the tips.... I solved the problem, and that's all I will say Can I guess? I think the line was wrapped around the blank or tip. That happens with my braid. Quote
Super User Chris at Tech Posted July 1, 2012 Super User Posted July 1, 2012 Is your knot well tied? A larger knot smacking against and through 7-10 guides during a cast is sure to reduce your distance. Quote
Capt.Bob Posted July 2, 2012 Posted July 2, 2012 I have never heard of anyone using 50# braid on a bass size spinning reel. I have a couple, 4000 Stradics, They are on MH rods, The rods are only rated to handle 20# test line, the max drag pressure of the reel is 20Lbs. I just never seen an advantage in using line heavier than my equipment can handle??? I use 20# Tracer Braid by Berkely and used to use Power Pro on these large 4000 size reels, it is 6lbs. test mono diameter and on the large spool, using this set up I am casting farther than ,,,, well it is extreme distance, and can usure you of the same results, If you think you cant throw 50# braid as good as mono, buy some 50# mono and see how far it will throw on your spinning reel. I use heavier on baitcast reels because I need the bigger diameter to keep from cutting into itself. Best braid performance on a reel comes when you match pound test mono to the same pound test braid on spinning reels. When I put braid on a spinning reel, I know under 8 pound test mono cuts into itself on my baitcast reels, so I use the same diameter or larger on my baitcast reels. Fireline Braid 30# test is the same diameter as 8# mono, that is what I use on a baitcaster. On spinning for Bass and Walleye I never use heavier than 15# test on 2500 size reels, it's 4 lbs. test mono diameter, and usually requires a fishing license in the next state to make long cast!! Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted July 2, 2012 Super User Posted July 2, 2012 The numbers printed on both rods and reels generally reference mono lines. A Pfluegar 35 reel is in between a 2 & 4000 reel, a med rod is usually no more than 17# mono line diameter, depending on the brand and model. IMO 40# braid is overkill, on a similar set up I use 15# braid, 20# would be the max I would use. On a normal day with little or no breeze fishing at or near water's level I doubt too many casts are going to be more than 35+ yds, sure you can cast twice that far from a 15' pier with a 15 -20 mph wind at your back and a thin profile spoon. The backing is irrelevant to distance, the point Chris at Tech made about the knot going thru the guides makes a lot of sense to me, personally my leaders are shorter tied with a swivel. Only time I tie leader to line is fishing for certain species, none of which are caught in freshwater. Quote
BASSHUNTER1961 Posted July 3, 2012 Author Posted July 3, 2012 Can I guess? I think the line was wrapped around the blank or tip. That happens with my braid. I need new glasses. Quote
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