mikey5string Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 The pegged t-rig is so much better than a traditional jig IMO. I have thought of adding a skirt and tried to add it to a worm hook a few times with no success. Are you using those one piece skirts with the center hole? I cant see how you could use a standard rubber band style skirt. Even better for a vertical presentation is the jika or "jig" rig as it has the sinker as the first thing in the water, not the line. I have also seen bullet weights with an eye that get inserted into the end of the bait and the hook is texas rigged from the other side and passed through the eye of the sinker. Much easier to show via picture but I dont have any, only seen it on youtube. Quote
bwell Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 It's all good - btw - what color skirt and which plastic bait are you considering for Your Rig ? This week a green pumpkin skirt and Rage Lobster behind a 1/2 tungsten has been the hot bait. The secret has been coloring the tips of the claws chartreuse with a Spike-It pen (garlic) Now if I could just keep the Pike off it . . . . . . A-Jay I bought both green pumpkin and black and blue, plan on using sweet beavers and rage tail craws with it. I didn't really buy to heavy of weights though because I don't generally fish deep (2-8ft). 1 Quote
Jig Meister Posted July 11, 2012 Posted July 11, 2012 ^^^^^^^^^ ~ This ~ The Jig Alternative. Basically it's just a Texas Rigged plastic bait with a skirt between the weight and the hook. What I do like about this rig over a Standard Fixed hook jig: First and fore most, the fish eat it. The hook-up ratio is the same as a standard jig or maybe even a bit better. It comes through cover better. I can modify / customize the rig any way I want. By switching the weight, the skirt color or type, the hook size or type and the plastic trailer of my choosing - the options are endless. With very little chance of hanging up, I Fish it through lily pad fields, milfoil patches, cabbage patches, stump/log jams, and open water ~ All on One Cast ! So, instead of carrying a ton of different color and size jigs, I can be ready for anything (including punching through the slop) with a hand full of weights, skirts, hooks and a small assortment of plastics. Beavers, Beasts, Grubs, Craws and creature baits have all taken fish. I have 3 Plano (3700) boxes of jigs that hardly ever get wet. Here's the rig, from the main line to the hook: -A stopped knot (I use a double uni-knot made from left over braided line) - A small bead to keep the knot from slipping through the weight. - A 1/2 oz tungsten weight - a Boss Punch Hub - this is placed inside the skirt collar - The skirt of your choice - A parasite clip (optional, but does help prevent the plastic from sliding down the hook) - A 5/0 Owner wide gap plus EWG hook (#5139 - very stout, I love this hook) - Your favorite soft plastic - pictured is a Power Bait Beast Hope this helps A-Jay you either just saved me a lot of money, or are forcing me to spend a lot of money. The most amazing thing ever! 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 11, 2012 Super User Posted July 11, 2012 you either just saved me a lot of money, or are forcing me to spend a lot of money. The most amazing thing ever! Right ~ perhaps a little bit of both. A-Jay Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 11, 2012 Super User Posted July 11, 2012 The pegged t-rig is so much better than a traditional jig IMO. I have thought of adding a skirt and tried to add it to a worm hook a few times with no success. Are you using those one piece skirts with the center hole? I cant see how you could use a standard rubber band style skirt. I'm using a standard rubber band style skirt (I make my own) but it's nothing special. The skirt is pushed / slipped onto a Boss Skirt "hub" which is then placed on the line between the weight and the hook. You could also use any of the "Punching Skirts" but there are a little more $$$. I've used a light "Punch Weight" with some success. This weight has a short extension on the back to slip a skirt directly onto the bullet weight. This eliminates the need for the skirt "hub". I had fish chewing / pulling the skirts down off the weights so I've gone to the hub. A-Jay Quote
mikey5string Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 I'm using a standard rubber band style skirt (I make my own) but it's nothing special. The skirt is pushed / slipped onto a Boss Skirt "hub" which is then placed on the line between the weight and the hook. You could also use any of the "Punching Skirts" but there are a little more $$$. I've used a light "Punch Weight" with some success. This weight has a short extension on the back to slip a skirt directly onto the bullet weight. This eliminates the need for the skirt "hub". I had fish chewing / pulling the skirts down off the weights so I've gone to the hub. A-Jay shoot. just placed an order for some terminal stuff the other day. Is there any "DIY" method for securing skirts on the line? I'll pick some up next order but I am fishing Saturday and would like to try this presentation. Thanks Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 12, 2012 Super User Posted July 12, 2012 shoot. just placed an order for some terminal stuff the other day. Is there any "DIY" method for securing skirts on the line? I'll pick some up next order but I am fishing Saturday and would like to try this presentation. Thanks I do not know of a method to secure a skirt to a line /weight other than what has already been mentioned here. A-Jay Quote
Aluma-Bass Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 here is one of my fav pitching rigs Havoc Pit Boss with addition of new boss hub & skirt.The skirt is a all-terrain skirt. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 12, 2012 Super User Posted July 12, 2012 Now you're talking ~ That's a fish catching rig if there ever was one. A-Jay Quote
hookset on 3 Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 This is the Boss hub I'm using to make up my "A-Jay Rig". It's kickin for sure! 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 13, 2012 Super User Posted July 13, 2012 This is the Boss hub I'm using to make up my "A-Jay Rig". It's kickin for sure! And there ya go. That's a definitely a good option. And What Ever You Do, Do Not hang a 10" Power worm on this rig. If you do, right after the cast, there is usually a very strange tug at the end of your line. A-Jay Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted July 13, 2012 Super User Posted July 13, 2012 ^^^^^^^^^ ~ This ~ The Jig Alternative. Basically it's just a Texas Rigged plastic bait with a skirt between the weight and the hook. What I do like about this rig over a Standard Fixed hook jig: First and fore most, the fish eat it. The hook-up ratio is the same as a standard jig or maybe even a bit better. It comes through cover better. I can modify / customize the rig any way I want. By switching the weight, the skirt color or type, the hook size or type and the plastic trailer of my choosing - the options are endless. With very little chance of hanging up, I Fish it through lily pad fields, milfoil patches, cabbage patches, stump/log jams, and open water ~ All on One Cast ! So, instead of carrying a ton of different color and size jigs, I can be ready for anything (including punching through the slop) with a hand full of weights, skirts, hooks and a small assortment of plastics. Beavers, Beasts, Grubs, Craws and creature baits have all taken fish. I have 3 Plano (3700) boxes of jigs that hardly ever get wet. Here's the rig, from the main line to the hook: -A stopped knot (I use a double uni-knot made from left over braided line) - A small bead to keep the knot from slipping through the weight. - A 1/2 oz tungsten weight - a Boss Punch Hub - this is placed inside the skirt collar - The skirt of your choice - A parasite clip (optional, but does help prevent the plastic from sliding down the hook) - A 5/0 Owner wide gap plus EWG hook (#5139 - very stout, I love this hook) - Your favorite soft plastic - pictured is a Power Bait Beast Hope this helps A-Jay If you could make a video on this I would buy you several cold ones! Quote
hookset on 3 Posted July 13, 2012 Posted July 13, 2012 And there ya go. That's a definitely a good option. And What Ever You Do, Do Not hang a 10" Power worm on this rig. If you do, right after the cast, there is usually a very strange tug at the end of your line. A-Jay It's funny, but I need to be more open minded about what to use in back of a jig skirt. I primarily thread on a creature bait, but I'll have to try the plastic worm set-up. That 10" Power Worm with the skirt will keep the dinks away, that's for sure. Thanks for the tip A-Jay. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 13, 2012 Super User Posted July 13, 2012 On 7/13/2012 at 5:00 AM, rockchalk06 said: If you could make a video on this I would buy you several cold ones! OK - I'll take a shot at it but please keep in mind - I'm no Glenn May . . . . . Give me a day or two and I'll get one up. A-Jay Quote
Super User deep Posted July 13, 2012 Super User Posted July 13, 2012 I've been trying the Dirty Jigs California Swim Jigs the last few times out. They are at least as weedless as a weedless hudd. They (Dirty Jigs) also make all other sorts of jigs, but they're kind of pricey. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 13, 2012 Super User Posted July 13, 2012 If you could make a video on this I would buy you several cold ones! Here you go - and I like Samuel Adams ~ Summer Ale. A-Jay 4 Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted July 14, 2012 Super User Posted July 14, 2012 Sweet man. Thanks a millon. I will have to give this a shot. Quote
A-Rob Posted July 14, 2012 Posted July 14, 2012 I have only had experience with Hackney's Strike King Jig. I find that once it gets sloppy I switch to a texas rig on a straight shank. But the Hack attack jig is pretty heavy duty and I've enjoyed using it Quote
Super User deep Posted July 14, 2012 Super User Posted July 14, 2012 Great video A-Jay. Thanks for sharing, On 7/13/2012 at 0:38 PM, Vinny Chase said: We have a variety of quality jigs at an affordable price. For heavy cover fishing, our flip and swim is hard to beat...unique head design, 3x 30 degree round bend hook, wire tied, great colors, and comes through cover very well. Â I feel compelled to give a more detailed response. Before I start though, I must say I think the northstar jigs are good, no questions. Now, as for the California Swim Jig, it is one half of a system. The other half being a roboworm EZ Shad. And it does come through grass very well, almost with a 100% impunity. I was surprised to find that. Would the Northstar Flip and Swim jig work in place of the Cali Swim Jig? Probably. But, almost certainly, I'd have to make adjustments, either to the jig, or to the trailer to fit the system. And I don't have the knowledge/ experience to make those subtle adjustments. When someone of the calibre of Matt Allen tells me that something works for him, I listen to him. It may or may not work for "me", but I will try it out firsthand. The odds of catching a big bass are bad enough as it it, don't want to mess those odds up any more. Now onto regular bass fishing casting jigs;I use mainly two sizes- the 1/4 oz for spinning gear, and the 1/2 oz for casting gear. For the 1/4 oz size, the booyah baby boo jig- the color of the skirts, the head style, the weedguard- works for me, the way I fish. For the price (I got 50 of them for $1.20 each), I don't think they can be beat either. Do they have wire-tied skirts? No, they don't. But I don't really care. I can't keep a jig beyond 10 fish anyway. Would I try some other brands? Absolutely, if I could get them that cheap. For the 1/2 oz size: I like the "grass" head style of jigs. Last summer (2011) I bought 3 or4 jigs from Chris (northstar), and I had a little trouble with the weedguard and trailer keeper. So when I was looking to make an order this winter, I emailed him first with a couple of questions. He never got back to me. Well, Dominic/ Backwater4 made me the jigs, with exactly the sort of skirts I want, at a great price ($2 per jig including shipping). Are they better jigs? I don't know, but they have worked very well for me so far. Thanks Dominic. (He posted a reply to a WTB ad I posted here.) When I lose them all, I might place a northstar order, or a siebert outdoors order, or I might hit up Dominic again. I haven't decided. I use 1/4 oz swim jigs too, both the strike king KVD, and the NorthStar (that I got during a TW discount). They both work for me. Quote
tallen316 Posted July 15, 2012 Posted July 15, 2012 A-Jay that is one slick setup you have there. Well done!! 1 Quote
BassinMD Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 For me the northstar flip and swim has been the deal, at 3.50 a jig they arent that bad to replace and they have all the colors and patterns I look for in a swim jig, come through clean and hold trailers well. I have no complaints and the customer service has been good to me. The "away-rig" or punch rig is also a great way to fine tune and find what the bass want if the jig bite is tough. I use a similar setup except I use paycheck punch skirts, I also punch a lot without a skirt using a ragecraw or lobster the only thing I change between the 2 is I use a 3/4-1 1/4 tungsten with the skirt and without I prefer a 1/2 oz Stanley wedge weight Quote
bwell Posted July 17, 2012 Posted July 17, 2012 Ready to go now! It looks good, I can't wait for my tourney Sunday! Thanks A-Jay Sorry for the crappy cell phone picture... 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted July 18, 2012 Super User Posted July 18, 2012 Ready to go now! It looks good, I can't wait for my tourney Sunday! Thanks A-Jay Sorry for the crappy cell phone picture... Oh Ya ! ~ Good Luck Bud ~ A-Jay Quote
skeletor6 Posted July 24, 2012 Posted July 24, 2012 What kind of bead are you guys using? Would the Eco pro bead from TW work or is that too large? Also, where I fish the bass reach a max of 3 lbs. what kind of creature baits would you recommend for that? Thanks a-jay that's a really clever idea and will help tremendously at this weedy lake I fish. Ps. What creature bait is that pictured above by bwell? Quote
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