Super User rockchalk06 Posted June 27, 2012 Super User Posted June 27, 2012 Hey guys, I will apologize first off if this has been covered, but I have been searching and read just about every thread in the Senko FAQ's and cant find the right answer. I am wanting to get a combo specifically set up for running Senko's. Preferably 5". I am a big fan of the Ugly stick and have been looking at the Lightning rod as well. I am going to more than likely stick with wacky rigging. I need a good baitcasting set up that will be able to really zing it out there. I need to stick with the 100-150 dollar range as this will be a dedicated set up and I don't want to go over board with it. I am partial to bass pro, but have access to a Gander and Cabelas as well. Thanks Quote
Bass_Fanatic Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 If it were me, I would would order a Powell Diesel 723C and a Shimano Caius reel from tackle warehouse. That would put you at $140 and you would have a DARN good setup! Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted June 27, 2012 Super User Posted June 27, 2012 I'd wait for the Pro Qualifier to go on sale, then pair it up with a MH/F casting rod that feels good to you. Spend as much as you can on the rod, because you will really notice the difference in quality for your money from lower end to budget equipment. I'd say shoot for 70-100 on a rod and try and squeeze out 80-100 for the reel. If you go cheaper on the reel it will really ruin the baitcasting experience if you are new to them. The BPS/Cabelas/Gander house brand rods are pretty good for what you pay, so i'd look along those lines. Depending on cover, you may want to opt for a M/F since your wacky rigging and you dont want the hook ripped out of the senko. Quote
Michael DiNardo Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 Whatever rod you pick, I would go with a medium rather than a medium heavy. Mike Quote
Jake P Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 Alot of people say Medium power for weightless plastics. However, senkos as im sure you know actually have a little weight to them so throwing them on MH shouldnt be too much trouble for you. Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted June 27, 2012 Author Super User Posted June 27, 2012 I just commited to buy a I'd wait for the Pro Qualifier to go on sale, then pair it up with a MH/F casting rod that feels good to you. Spend as much as you can on the rod, because you will really notice the difference in quality for your money from lower end to budget equipment. I'd say shoot for 70-100 on a rod and try and squeeze out 80-100 for the reel. If you go cheaper on the reel it will really ruin the baitcasting experience if you are new to them. The BPS/Cabelas/Gander house brand rods are pretty good for what you pay, so i'd look along those lines. Depending on cover, you may want to opt for a M/F since your wacky rigging and you dont want the hook ripped out of the senko. I just committed to buy a Pro Qualifier here on the forums for a killer price so I got that out of the way. This rod looks nice http://www.basspro.com/Bass-Pro-Shops-Graphite-Series-Trigger-Rods/product/1204170505167/460627 I read the reviews on the 2011 model and read on the net that not much other than the color pattern has changed for the 2012 model. Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted June 27, 2012 Author Super User Posted June 27, 2012 If it were me, I would would order a Powell Diesel 723C and a Shimano Caius reel from tackle warehouse. That would put you at $140 and you would have a DARN good setup! I had actually looked that over. I couldn't pass up the deal on the BP PQ reel in the classifieds here though. Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted June 27, 2012 Author Super User Posted June 27, 2012 Alot of people say Medium power for weightless plastics. However, senkos as im sure you know actually have a little weight to them so throwing them on MH shouldnt be too much trouble for you. Will the 4" have enough weight with a MH? Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted June 27, 2012 Super User Posted June 27, 2012 From what I've read, I think you will be very happy with your reel choice. Congrats on getting a great deal on one. According to this link http://www.fishsniff...o-weigh.html�� A 5 inch Senko weights .4 oz. Add a hook and you have to be near .5 oz. A MH should handle this just fine. Especially if you get one rated from 1/4 up. If you need to really zing them out there, then I would be looking at a longer rod. 7'6" should do nicely. However, check out the Daiwa Light and Tough series 701-3FB It is only 7' and is a medium, but its lure rating is 1/8-1oz. Plenty of rod for what you want. As you can see it handles heavier lures than many Medium power rods. Quote
Hyrule Bass Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 Hey guys, I will apologize first off if this has been covered, but I have been searching and read just about every thread in the Senko FAQ's and cant find the right answer. I am wanting to get a combo specifically set up for running Senko's. Preferably 5". I am a big fan of the Ugly stick and have been looking at the Lightning rod as well. I am going to more than likely stick with wacky rigging. I need a good baitcasting set up that will be able to really zing it out there. I need to stick with the 100-150 dollar range as this will be a dedicated set up and I don't want to go over board with it. I am partial to bass pro, but have access to a Gander and Cabelas as well. Thanks i fish senkos just fine with a 7'0M Ugly Stik...no need for an overly expensive rod in my opinion... Quote
OnthePotomac Posted June 27, 2012 Posted June 27, 2012 I throw my Senkos on a 7' BPS Carbonlite MH I bought on sale and my $97 Curado 50E, which I bought from one of the liquidation sales last fall. An absolutely fantastic Senko set up. 1 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted June 27, 2012 Super User Posted June 27, 2012 i fish senkos just fine with a 7'0M Ugly Stik...no need for an overly expensive rod in my opinion... I completely disagree...The highest quality, most sensitive rod will improve your jig and soft plastics fishing significantly. I fish a LES 70MF spinning rod and a BCS 893 baitcaster. More generally, I recommend 6 1/2' - 7' MF or MXF. Quote
Hyrule Bass Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 I completely disagree...The highest quality, most sensitive rod will improve your jig and soft plastics fishing significantly. I fish a LES 70MF spinning rod and a BCS 893 baitcaster. More generally, I recommend 6 1/2' - 7' MF or MXF. sensitive schminsitive, i dont buy into that. the difference is so minimal its not worth an extra $100. i have no problems detecting bites with a cheap rod Quote
Busy Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 Sensitivity isn't just about detecting bites, it's about detecting EVERYTHING. I don't have any rods that cost more than $200 but I can tell there is a difference between a $50 rod and a $150 rod. A sensitive rod will let you feel exactly what is on the bottom, the difference between wood, rocks, grass, sand, etc. Especially when searching with a C-Rig, this will probably help your fishing more than being able to detect bites better. All you need to have to catch fish is a stick, line, and hook, but better gear, and better-suited gear will make you more successful. It is not necessary, but it IS helpful. Quote
Super User MCS Posted June 28, 2012 Super User Posted June 28, 2012 I throw my Senkos on a 7' BPS Carbonlite MH I bought on sale and my $97 Curado 50E, which I bought from one of the liquidation sales last fall. An absolutely fantastic Senko set up. Carbonlite is an awesome rod I love mine! 6-6" MH with a Pflueger spinning reel. Quote
11justin22 Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 sensitive schminsitive, i dont buy into that. the difference is so minimal its not worth an extra $100. i have no problems detecting bites with a cheap rod If u only knew the fish that you where missing........ 1 Quote
jerzeeD Posted June 28, 2012 Posted June 28, 2012 Ugly sticks are an absolute beast for durability. I have one for my musky rod. But anyone who says they are sensitive enough for finesse tecniques has probably never fished a quality rod. Quote
Super User islandbass Posted June 28, 2012 Super User Posted June 28, 2012 This is not in defense of Red Earth's opinion, but some folks have more sensitive hands than others. In my hands U-Stiks are pretty sensitive too, and sensitive enough for me to feel the take of a bass no larger than a 5" senko. With that said, the U-Stik is sensitive in my hands but I know for certain that better rods do a better job of transmitting feedback and once you're using rods of higher caliber in the sensitivity department, it is very hard to go backward. The use of a U-stik would not be my first option but I wouldn't hesitate to use it if it were the only option. I don't need the ultimate sensitive rod because of my hands but I prefer to use them. Let's frame it this way... We're watching a movie. Red's watching it in the VHS format. It works, and it isn't awful by any stretch. Then some of us are watching the movie in blu ray. Extra fixings and trimmings, while certainly not necessary enhance the overall enjoyment of fishing. Quote
Hyrule Bass Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 If u only knew the fish that you where missing........ ive seen pros on TV miss fish with expensive equipment too. and i dont mean they got bit and missed the hookset. i mean there were under water cameras and the camera man is yelling set the hook while the angler doesnt even realize theyre getting bit like crazy. seen that on Zonas show and on Hook N Look Quote
11justin22 Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 ive seen pros on TV miss fish with expensive equipment too. and i dont mean they got bit and missed the hookset. i mean there were under water cameras and the camera man is yelling set the hook while the angler doesnt even realize theyre getting bit like crazy. seen that on Zonas show and on Hook N Look I have seen those also, one was hank Parker, but the point is u greatly increase your chances of catching that fish if u have a rod that can sense those subtle bites. It's about percentage, u will always miss fish even with top of the line equipment, but the chance goes down ALOT with better equipment. By the way I own an ugly stick. Durable yes... Sensitive no.... Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted June 30, 2012 Author Super User Posted June 30, 2012 I dont call myself a pro by no means but I can tell a slight difference when using one my bass pro rods over my ugly stick even though the ugly stick cost more. I have a 6'6" MH ugly stick and I cant seem to get any distance on a cast with it. I have to run a 1/2 oz weight on my plastics to get the distance I want. Kinds defeats the purpose with wacky rigging. I am using the Bass Pro Tourney LTD and with a 4" Senko, I can launch it just as far as I can with my cranks. One of my reasons for using the ugly stick is the durability and cost of course but more for the fact that Dad love em. Swore by em and my first rod was as ugly stick. Kinda one of the few things I have to remember him by. Quote
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