Difference between shakey head and jig?

[Carrington]

I am looking to start shakeyhead fishing and i am wondering what is the difference between fishing a shakeyhead and a jig.

[Raul]

The what differentiates a jig from a jighead is the components.

Jig:

Hook

Skirt ( silicone, marabou, hair ( natural or sinthetic ), living rubber, either alone or in combination )

Molded weight

There may be or not a weedguard

Shakey jighead

Oversized hook

Molded weight

While a jig is a bait by itself the shakey jighead is terminal tackle. 

[RoLo]

The difference between a "jig" and "head" is getting into semantics.

For instance, we've all read articles where a lure was called a "head",

then a few sentences down the same lure is called a "jig".

Though it's not carved in stone, "HEAD" usually applies to a plain leadhead and hook,

for example the 'Owner Sled Head'. "JIG" on the other hand, as Raul indicated,

generally refers to a leadhead that's equipped with a bristle weedguard and stranded skirt,

and may or may not include rattles, for example: 'Jig & Pig'.

The original shaky head design used a "ballhead jig", because a sphere

doesn't produce any offsetting resistance that would interfere with the rocking action.

For instance, a football head wouldn't make a very good shaky head.

Roger

[Carrington]

ok thankyou, do yall have any suggestions for worm color and brand for clear water and then other colors for stained water.

[RoLo]

ok thankyou, do yall have any suggestions for worm color and brand for clear water and then other colors for stained water.

The worm is more important than the head (you can go to jail for saying that).

Three excellent high-floating worms are the Gambler Big Stick, Roboworm Zipper

and Strike King 3x Finesse worm. I prefer dark colors like black, dark green, pumpkin, etc.

Roger

[Carrington]

ok, and what weight shakeyhead is a good weight to use for most occasions.  also do you rig the worms texas style or how do you rig them?

[RoLo]

ok, and what weight shakeyhead is a good weight to use for most occasions. also do you rig the worms texas style or how do you rig them?

Yes, T-rigged on a 1/8oz head (3/16oz in the wind).

[Carrington]

ok thankyou, and im guessing to get a shakeyhead with the lead weight painted black?

[Carrington]

also, final question, what length worm should i use?

[kikstand454]

we did really well lately throwing shakyheads to docks in stained water with black zoom trick worms.

used 1/16oz , on spinning reels. 10lb test .

clear water.... u cant go wrong with anycolor green.

[RoLo]

also, final question, what length worm should i use?

Four to five inch worms are probably the most popular for finesse fishing,

so you might want to hang with the consensus.

Maybe I got it wrong, but I think of "finessing" more in terms of the retrieve

than the size of lure. My favorite is the Gambler Big Stick which is a 7" worm.

Especially during the hottest months (water temps in the 90s), this 7" worm

will often get the skunk out of the boat when no other lures are working.

The Big Stick is best described as a "tube worm", and behind the solid head section

the worm body is hollow, which is why it floats so well.

IMO, the retrieve is far more important than the color and even the size.

As I'm sure you know, the best retrieve to use varies from day-to-day

and sometimes from hour-to-hour. On balance though, we use subtle twitches

interspersed with pauses, while mending the slack line. A subtle twitch is enough

to kick-start the tentacled tail, which floats high above the head.

Lots of luck.

Roger

[Carrington]

thanks for the help

[Paul Roberts]

Roger pretty much covered it.

But...I've gotta gripe a little...

A "jig head" is lead in various configurations molded to a hook. You can put almost anything on one. Together they are a "jig".

When the "rubber-leg" material came out in the 80s it became very popular on a jig head, to the point that the most common "jig" used for bass now is skirted. Prior to 1980, the term "bass jig" referred to bucktail for the body. Now it's a skirt.

But you can put anything on a jig, including worms. This is not new either, and back then they were called "jigworms".

The "Shaky-head" is a jig head configured to fish a worm T-rigged or Texsposed, thus the long shank hook and various ways of holding the worm's nose. Then came the idea of getting the worm to stand up, so various lead molds were designed to get the head to stand up. Problem is, as Rolo mentions, is most worms simply fall over regardless of the head shape. What you are left with is...a jigworm.

Now...if you want to go Shaky the way it's imagined (but doesn't have to be to catch the heck out of bass) -that is, standing up -then you have to use a worm that will float to begin with. Rolo offers some that will do the trick.

Harrumph! Call me an old curmugeon with a burdock n his drawers. ;D

[Captain Chaos II]

I like the zoom shakey head worm .. i think it's 4 inches .. watermelon red flake or green pumpkin is mostly what I like to use.  I also use the trick worm ..

[Catt]

When the "rubber-leg" material came out in the 80s it became very popular on a jig head, to the point that the most common "jig" used for bass now is skirted. Prior to 1980, the term "bass jig" referred to bucktail for the body. Now it's a skirt.

Strange since we were throwing Stanley jigs back in 1972 & it was called Jig-N-Pigs

[Paul Roberts]

When the "rubber-leg" material came out in the 80s it became very popular on a jig head, to the point that the most common "jig" used for bass now is skirted. Prior to 1980, the term "bass jig" referred to bucktail for the body. Now it's a skirt.

Strange since we were throwing Stanley jigs back in 1972 & it was called Jig-N-Pigs

Guess I started using those Stanley's about 1980 -still have a bunch. I thought I started that craze! ;D

You know, I used them sans trailer (jig no pig) and they caught bass pretty well that way.

If Francho drops in... This happens to be the pond just north of Bosch, about '83, before the beavers came in to it. It was very different then. Notice I wasn't wearing waders.

[J Francho]

No waders, but slick aviator sunglasses, LOL.

North of B-pond huh? I think I know which one - "Sneak Under the Fence" pond. They've added another, almost connecting pond directly west. Its got some nice structure.

And yes, up here, a jig was a bucktail.  What we call "jigs today" were arkey heads to us.  I know there are many designs, but those and the Stanleys were all about anyone could get up here.

[Catt]

We were flipping/pitching/punching back then but we just called it fishing

[roadwarrior]

Hmm...

My shakey head jig head is a Evolution Shake2.

It has a striking resemblance to E2 Jigs. One's

naked and the other furry.

http://www.megastrike.com/

8-)

[Paul Roberts]

No waders, but slick aviator sunglasses, LOL.

North of B-pond huh? I think I know which one - "Sneak Under the Fence" pond. They've added another, almost connecting pond directly west. Its got some nice structure.

And yes, up here, a jig was a bucktail. What we call "jigs today" were arkey heads to us. I know there are many designs, but those and the Stanleys were all about anyone could get up here.

Hmmmm...it was N of the "Company Pond" -forget what company. No fence then, but we did tend to night fish it a lot lol. It's open to fishing now, last I knew, and I was shocked that it was entirely flooded from beaver activity. Used to be able to walk all around it -with cobble shorelines.

Ahhhh yes...it was an Arkie -not a Stanley. Was a Stanley a "banana head"? Bah Golly! I don't remember.

[Catt]

The Stanley Original Casting Jig & Original Flipping Jig has not changed since day one other than the addition of rattles

[Paul Roberts]

I see. Looks similar. Pretty sure mine are Arkie's.

Nice skirt on that one. I like ***'s Texas Craw color too. But the Arkie's I used were all brown. Bass ate 'em.

Guess I'm more sophisticated now, having upgraded to various layered colors and nifty trailers. I bet the bass haven't changed all that much though lol.

I still have a bunch of Mango's with black with red flake skirts. I hate that color but the bass don't have any such issues with 'em.

[Team9nine]

Strange since we were throwing Stanley jigs back in 1972 & it was called Jig-N-Pigs

Maybe you were, but Lonnie has stated in interviews that he didn't start building them in his garage until 1979 and Stanley Jigs, Inc wasn't formed until 1983.

[Dan:]

Strange since we were throwing Stanley jigs back in 1972 & it was called Jig-N-Pigs

Maybe you were, but Lonnie has stated in interviews that he didn't start building them in his garage until 1979 and Stanley Jigs, Inc wasn't formed until 1983.

busted!  ;D

[Catt]

Strange since we were throwing Stanley jigs back in 1972 & it was called Jig-N-Pigs

Maybe you were, but Lonnie has stated in interviews that he didn't start building them in his garage until 1979 and Stanley Jigs, Inc wasn't formed until 1983.

busted! ;D

Lonnie started building jigs for he's own personal use & friends long before he started selling to the public in 1979.

Busted not...come back real soon & try again