Question About Some Lower Priced Rods

[chilliblanket]

I've been comparing the lamiglas excel, veritas, and compre rods. I was wondering if any of those who owned these rods could provide some input regarding the sensitivity and weight of the blanks. I prefer rods that are not very tip heavy, and i was looking for a light one with good sensitivity. I dont have access to all three of these rods to try them out, so i was thinking that asking experienced users would be the next best thing. Thanks for all the help.

[Dave P]

The Lamiglass is a very good rod for the money. I have the XL704C. Recommended uses are spinnerbaits, light jigs and light Texas-rigs. I have used up to 1/2 oz spinnerbaits and 3/8 oz tx rigged worms up to 10". It has plenty of backbone for a medium and has more backbone than some MH. Sensitivity is very good. I have caught a ton of fish on it and it still looks new. I can highly recommend it.

[chilliblanket]

have you messed around with a veritas?

[eyedabassman]

have you messed around with a veritas?

It is the best rod for the money!!!!!!

[Dave P]

have you messed around with a veritas?

I personally have not. Just a Vengeance spinning rod which I like fine. Don't be afraid to look at the Powell Diesel in that general price range as well.

[iabass8]

The powell max/endurance rods would be worth a look. They are only 30-40$ more than the lamiglass and (personally) are a much better balanced/sensitive rod.

Never liked the veritas. Seem too stiff but to each their own.

[bassh8er]

I grabbed a Compre cranking rod earlier this year and have to say it seems very light compared to my Mojos. I like the Veritas as well, but don't own one

[chilliblanket]

I'll make sure to take a look at the powell rods too. I was just trying to minimize cost. I am most interested in a light balanced rod.

[buzzfrog]

i have veratas and compre, i love my compre rod for frogs, I use the worm and jig 7'2 H, i have it paired with a smoke and it is pretty balenced

[Hi Salenity]

The Veritas is a nice stick.

[chilliblanket]

i have veratas and compre, i love my compre rod for frogs, I use the worm and jig 7'2 H, i have it paired with a smoke and it is pretty balenced

do you prefer your compre to your veritas? which size and action is your veritas?

[buzzfrog]

my veritas is 7' mh, this is my opnion, but i like my compre better, for the price point i think shimano has made the compre nicer, i do love the thumb grip better on the veritas, have you had a chance to hold both and mount a reel on them

[smalljaw67]

Is there a specific length you are looking at? The reason I ask is the the Excel, Veritas, and Compre are all tip heavy once you get to 7', in fact most rods over 7' with a split grip are tip heavy except for a few. The Dobyns Champion Extreme rods are very expensive but well balanced, I'm not a fan of those rods but I will say they are balanced well. I heard the same argument about the Champion and Savvy series but they too have some tip heaviness to them, it all depends on what is acceptable. I like rods for cranks, spinnerbaits and most of my topwaters a little on the tip heavy side but I prefer a more balanced rod for worms and jigs and it is a reason I like rods under 7'. Now, depending on what length and action you're looking for the Fenwick Elite Tech smallmouth series has to be one of if not the lightest rod in its price range and I bet you won't find a better balanced rod at the price they sell for. Like I said, just about every rod has a bit of tip heaviness to it, the difference is the degree of it so if it is a big issue I suggest you find a place that sells the rods you're interested in and handle them yourself, it is the only way to know.

[chilliblanket]

my veritas is 7' mh, this is my opnion, but i like my compre better, for the price point i think shimano has made the compre nicer, i do love the thumb grip better on the veritas, have you had a chance to hold both and mount a reel on them

no sir. I've felt the veritas, but its been difficult for me to get a hold of a compre to compare. What is it that makes the compre more appealing to you than the veritas?

Is there a specific length you are looking at? The reason I ask is the the Excel, Veritas, and Compre are all tip heavy once you get to 7', in fact most rods over 7' with a split grip are tip heavy except for a few. The Dobyns Champion Extreme rods are very expensive but well balanced, I'm not a fan of those rods but I will say they are balanced well. I heard the same argument about the Champion and Savvy series but they too have some tip heaviness to them, it all depends on what is acceptable. I like rods for cranks, spinnerbaits and most of my topwaters a little on the tip heavy side but I prefer a more balanced rod for worms and jigs and it is a reason I like rods under 7'. Now, depending on what length and action you're looking for the Fenwick Elite Tech smallmouth series has to be one of if not the lightest rod in its price range and I bet you won't find a better balanced rod at the price they sell for. Like I said, just about every rod has a bit of tip heaviness to it, the difference is the degree of it so if it is a big issue I suggest you find a place that sells the rods you're interested in and handle them yourself, it is the only way to know.

Thanks for the reply. If i prefer a balanced rod to a lighter rod, do you suggest that if i purchase a rod longer than 7 that i ditch the split grip to improve the rods balance?

[Jake P]

Compre will not disappoint you. Light sensitive and plenty of backbone. I have had mine for years and still use it every outing.

[buzzfrog]

chilli, i really couldnt tell ya man,my favorite type of fishing is topwater so my veritas(buzzbaits) and compre(frogs) get takin out often and i just like the compre better, i do know bps carries them, so ya may just wanna get ya hands on one, now in a whole new argument i do love full cork handles better, but comparing the 2 split grips above, deff, a compre.

[smalljaw67]

no sir. I've felt the veritas, but its been difficult for me to get a hold of a compre to compare. What is it that makes the compre more appealing to you than the veritas?

Thanks for the reply. If i prefer a balanced rod to a lighter rod, do you suggest that if i purchase a rod longer than 7 that i ditch the split grip to improve the rods balance?

I think it would be easier if you told us what you want to use the rod for, it will help because you want a balanced rod with good sensitivity and sensitivity is different depending on what you are doing, for example are you wanting to feel the difference between hard and soft bottom or the blades of a spinnerbait turning? For a bottom contact rod you aren't going to find a less expensive rod that is going to give you the feel and balance you are looking for. I think the best bet out of the rods you are looking into would be the Veritas, and the reason is simple, it is a bit stiffer than the Lamiglas Excel which will make it a bit more sensitive and it balances better also, the Compre also would work but I'm not sure on the balance as the only one I ever handled was the cranking rod but based on the construction it is probably a rod you would want to look at.

[chilliblanket]

I think it would be easier if you told us what you want to use the rod for, it will help because you want a balanced rod with good sensitivity and sensitivity is different depending on what you are doing, for example are you wanting to feel the difference between hard and soft bottom or the blades of a spinnerbait turning? For a bottom contact rod you aren't going to find a less expensive rod that is going to give you the feel and balance you are looking for. I think the best bet out of the rods you are looking into would be the Veritas, and the reason is simple, it is a bit stiffer than the Lamiglas Excel which will make it a bit more sensitive and it balances better also, the Compre also would work but I'm not sure on the balance as the only one I ever handled was the cranking rod but based on the construction it is probably a rod you would want to look at.

well honestly i prefer to have rods that are all the same series, and I'm currently looking for the best series in my price range. the rod i am looking to purchase first though is a jig rod. I already have a heavier action 7'6 for denser cover, but i just dont enjoy throwing my jig with it because at my lake, the heavy action is very unnecessary. The rod i use for my jig is also very tip heavy so giving the jig small twitches gets a little tiresome at the end of the day. just looking for the best budget series to begin following that provides a light and balanced rod.

[hatrix]

I don't own any of those exact rods but I do have a crucial and a convergence that are above and below the compre. I like how there's no threads to wear on my finger from the way I hold it and think the both handle well and are plenty sensitive.

[chilliblanket]

I don't own any of those exact rods but I do have a crucial and a convergence that are above and below the compre. I like how there's no threads to wear on my finger from the way I hold it and think the both handle well and are plenty sensitive.

what rod lengths do you have?

[Senkoman12]

as an owner of the lamiglas excel it is an excellent rod. well worth the $120

[chilliblanket]

as an owner of the lamiglas excel it is an excellent rod. well worth the $120

how is the balance for you?

[Senkoman12]

how is the balance for you?

it balances very well the bps reels that i have on the 2 the that i own

[Hi Salenity]

how is the balance for you?

Don't get overly concerned with balance as it's irrelevant. The lighter a rod is the more sensitive it is 100% of the time.

This means just what it implies if a rod was made lighter it would be more sensitive than the SAME rod that was heavier. With that said a rod that is light in the tip is nice but with a 1/2oz jig hanging from the end of the rod (or on retrieve of said jig) it will be tip heavy.

Basically unless you are "dead sticking" the balance of the rod is of little importance.

[chilliblanket]

Don't get overly concerned with balance as it's irrelevant. The lighter a rod is the more sensitive it is 100% of the time.

This means just what it implies if a rod was made lighter it would be more sensitive than the SAME rod that was heavier. With that said a rod that is light in the tip is nice but with a 1/2oz jig hanging from the end of the rod (or on retrieve of said jig) it will be tip heavy.

Basically unless you are "dead sticking" the balance of the rod is of little importance.

i understand what youre talking about and i agree with certain points, but i am not keeping a taut line with my jig at all times. In fact, i may spend more time with slack line when i am fishing a jig than with it tight. With that said, having a more balanced rod would be beneficial to me because holding the rod for longer periods would allow me to feel less fatigue. The only real weight i feel from the jig is if i pop it a couple times or shake it a little. Thanks for your opinion btw. I will definitely consider your input.