n8cas4 Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 I've had difficulty with swimming a toad on top because it almost always flips upside down on the retrieve. I've tried every soft-plastic toad/frog. I think the rage toad makes the most commotion and I'll use it if I need a lot of action. I think the zoom horny toad has the least amount of commotion and use it accordingly. My favorite has to be the Stanley Ribbit regular size toad - not too much noise, not too little. I throw it on a 7ft MHF 7.1-1 with 50lb braid. I use screw-in hooks in either 5/0 or 6/0. I think the hooks with a little lead weight in front (on the nose not the shank) help me the most to keep it keel down, but I still have this problem. I've even tried the ones that have a double hook. Haven't caught any monsters, any advice? Quote
lavbasser Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 I've settled into using the Ribbitts for this style frog the past few years. Make sure the hook is resting flat in the groove, against the top of the frog. I find that when it lifts up, even a little, then the frog wants to turn over. Also, make sure the frog is completely flat after you rig it and that you screw it in dead-on center. Quote
Super User Marty Posted June 10, 2012 Super User Posted June 10, 2012 It's hard to prevent those things from rolling over, but so what. A friend uses a Horny Toad a huge amount of the time, it runs upside down and it doesn't seem to affect his catch rate. I use Ribbits and they run upside down some of the time, but I can't seem to do anything about it, even though I'd greatly prefer for it to run with the hook point up. Quote
Diggy Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 Stanley has those dual hooks, have you tried those? Quote
james 14 Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 I wouldn't worry about how it runs. My tourney partner and I have no problems on most days. He uses the double hook and I use an Owner 5/0 Beast with a Strike King 2/0 trailer hook. Quote
B@ssCrzy Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 I use the stanley ribbit double hook with the weight on it and never have a problem with them flipping. Helps you cast them further as well. Highly recommend. Of course when I fish it i am just buzzing it so if you are wanting to pause them then the weightless double hook would be what you want. But I cant comment on those since I have never used them. Quote
Big-O Posted June 11, 2012 Posted June 11, 2012 This is the proper hooking instruction for all toads regardless of brand or style... Follow them closely and you're in business! I developed the illustration 5 yrs ago and hope it helps! Quote
BassResource.com Administrator Glenn Posted June 11, 2012 BassResource.com Administrator Posted June 11, 2012 And here's Big-O explaining how to rig it... http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/bass-fishing-rage-tail.html Quote
n8cas4 Posted June 11, 2012 Author Posted June 11, 2012 The rage tail kicks up a lot, but I think it is the easiest to keep running right side up. Whenever I use a larger offset without a screw lock - I have had problems. The ribbit double hook always needs some serious tuning out of the box, but works okay for me as well. Quote
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