Super User J Francho Posted June 6, 2012 Super User Posted June 6, 2012 Repeat after me: Lift, and separate! Quote
n8cas4 Posted June 7, 2012 Author Posted June 7, 2012 Repeat after me: Lift, and separate! i don't quite follow... I'm not a flipper (yet), and I don't put much thought into a hook set... Quote
Super User BrianinMD Posted June 7, 2012 Super User Posted June 7, 2012 The hookset while punching, or fishing heavy cover in general is to not only to get the hook into the fish but to "lift" and "seperate" the fish from the cover before it gets wrapped in it. Get that fish heading towards you and keep the pressure on until its at the boat. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 7, 2012 Super User Posted June 7, 2012 Thanks Brian, perfectly described. Quote
A-Rob Posted June 7, 2012 Posted June 7, 2012 On a related note, (i might have to start a new thread) whats the most efficient way to stay grass / muck free? Should I... t-rig with the hook 't-exposed' by bringing the hook all the way through the bait where the hook rests parrallel with the soft-plastic. Then skin the tip of the hook to lay flat and covered by a very thin layer of soft plastic. I usually use this method with a sweet beaver, but it does ruin the bait pretty quickly. That thin part on top of the soft plastic will eventually tear and then I can't skin the hook anymore. I've seen where people sometimes push the hook all the way through the soft plastic to make it easier for the hook to penetrate through the soft plastic on hook sets. They then back it off and leave the tip of the hook to rest in the soft plastic. With this method I inevitably end up pulling in grass or whatever when the tip of the hook tends to expose just the slightest amount (but just enough to bring in big stalks of milfoil). Or should I bury the tip In the soft plastic without bringing it through the bait. I've never caught a fish that way because I have no confidence that I'll set the hook hard enough to penetrate the soft plastic before the fish lets go. Switching to straight braid in milfoil/hydrilla will be a good move even if not matted. The weeds will disguise the braid, you won't loose bites. Braid gives you better feel of your lure and will contribute to you not getting gunked up as much either. With stretchy mono or FC you will get that elastic behavior of the line and it'll snag up more weeds. Straight shank hook, hide the point half way back into the plastic. Then when you fish it in the grass move it easy through the weeds. With the braid you will be able to feel it out and have good control of you plastic so that you won't be "setting the hook" into every weed getting snagged. google video: How to snell a hook the easy way Real easy snell knot. Quote
n8cas4 Posted June 8, 2012 Author Posted June 8, 2012 Switching to straight braid in milfoil/hydrilla will be a good move even if not matted. The weeds will disguise the braid, you won't loose bites. Braid gives you better feel of your lure and will contribute to you not getting gunked up as much either. With stretchy mono or FC you will get that elastic behavior of the line and it'll snag up more weeds. Straight shank hook, hide the point half way back into the plastic. Then when you fish it in the grass move it easy through the weeds. With the braid you will be able to feel it out and have good control of you plastic so that you won't be "setting the hook" into every weed getting snagged. google video: How to snell a hook the easy way Real easy snell knot. Thanks - that knot seems easy enough. So A-rob, when you say "hide the point half way back into the plastic" do you push the hook all the way through the plastic making it easier for the hook to go through the plastic on a hook set? THEN pull the point back into the plastic so it is weedless? Quote
Super User J Francho Posted June 8, 2012 Super User Posted June 8, 2012 Thanks - that knot seems easy enough. So A-rob, when you say "hide the point half way back into the plastic" do you push the hook all the way through the plastic making it easier for the hook to go through the plastic on a hook set? THEN pull the point back into the plastic so it is weedless? That's exactly what I do. Quote
buzzfrog Posted June 9, 2012 Posted June 9, 2012 sorry to make a habbit of hijacking, but all i hear is super slick PP, what is the real differance in that and the normal. sorry to impose, but maybe the OP dont know either lol Quote
outdoorsman110 Posted June 9, 2012 Posted June 9, 2012 sorry to make a habbit of hijacking, but all i hear is super slick PP, what is the real differance in that and the normal. sorry to impose, but maybe the OP dont know either lol I don't even know but it handles better! Quote
n8cas4 Posted June 9, 2012 Author Posted June 9, 2012 I'm at cabelas all day to get my boating license. How can you tell the difference from Trokar's first generation flipping hook and their new flipping hook. Probably different packaging?? But what does the New package look like?Reviews say the first generation suck vs their new ones. I'm a get one package of Trokar's and one gama. No paycheck here at cabelas. Quote
msolorio Posted June 10, 2012 Posted June 10, 2012 superlick has a coating over it from my understanding and its supposed to be quieter through the guides yada yada. i like the original, never given me an issue and i happen to like the sound of braid through the guides. i prefer sunline fx 2 but i do like me some power pro. Quote
n8cas4 Posted June 10, 2012 Author Posted June 10, 2012 Suffix performance for me. Got the trokar hooks. Already have the gamas. Paycheck hooks are tough to find. Quote
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