POPRG Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 Got 3 tubes of quantum hot sauce oil a few years back thrown in a clearance bin by mistake,but they honored the yellow sticker price of 50% off..was always hesitant to buy it from the mixed reviews i've read on line,but for the price i figured what the heck.. Its been running for over 2 [heavy-use!] seasons in a 200 E7,zillion sha,revos and now recently a lews PT. The difference in my E7 after a complete break-down/re-lube was insane! I never knew it could cast that well! I'm pretty sure any other high quality oil would have worked as well,but i was very impressed and so were a few others that tried it. I work on all my own reels [and curse a lot!] and have never seen any ill effects to them caused by the HS oil..i have NEVER used the grease,still have a huge tub of super-lube & cals,so that may be a different story as to reel damage,but i think many people are getting the 2 mixed up. Not sure if i'll buy it again,there are many good products out there now,but i'm just finishing up the first tube! i know im in the very small minority here,but so far,ive been very pleased with the HS oil performance. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 I went to Boca's site and they only have a 'two bearing upgrade' ,and an 'eight bearing upgrade'. I just want to upgrade the spool bearings on my Quantum Tour Edition. Which three do you mean and how do I find the exact size of the third bearing ,for ordering, if its not in the upgrade kit already? My first suspicion was that they weren't including the bearing under the pinion gear but it's actually the crank side bearing under the control cap that's not in the kit. I have no idea why but I'll contact Boca and let them know. I think the missing one measures 3x8x4. I think I have one staged for service that I can measure. Bearings are sized by IDxODxW(thickness). You'll need a caliper or take it to a shop that has one. Quote
unionman Posted June 1, 2012 Author Posted June 1, 2012 My first suspicion was that they weren't including the bearing under the pinion gear but it's actually the crank side bearing under the control cap that's not in the kit. I have no idea why but I'll contact Boca and let them know. I think the missing one measures 3x8x4. I think I have one staged for service that I can measure. Bearings are sized by IDxODxW(thickness). You'll need a caliper or take it to a shop that has one. Thats what I figured too. That they werent inluding the bearing under the tension control cap. Kinda weird. The video I watched on youtube for the smoke series had a three bearing replacement too... Quote
unionman Posted June 1, 2012 Author Posted June 1, 2012 My first suspicion was that they weren't including the bearing under the pinion gear but it's actually the crank side bearing under the control cap that's not in the kit. I have no idea why but I'll contact Boca and let them know. I think the missing one measures 3x8x4. I think I have one staged for service that I can measure. Bearings are sized by IDxODxW(thickness). You'll need a caliper or take it to a shop that has one. Thats what I figured too. That they werent inluding the bearing under the tension control cap. Kinda weird. The video I watched on youtube for the smoke series had a three bearing replacement too... Quote
BobP Posted June 1, 2012 Posted June 1, 2012 Yellow Rocket Fuel, Superlube Grease, Shimano Ace-2 Drag grease, Reel Butter oil (non spool bearings). There are lots of good spool bearing oils nowadays. Which is best depends on to what extent that last 5% of casting performance is important to you, how often you want to relube high speed spool bearings and the temperatures you fish in. Lower viscosity oils perform better but it's a trade-off because they get thrown out of bearings faster than higher viscosity oils. Temperature is important because the viscosity of most bearing oils tends to increase substantially below 50F. Yellow Rocket Fuel does this but I seldom fish in cold temps, so it's not an issue for me. It's a good "middle of the road" high speed bearing oil. Superlube is a white grease fortified with PTFE and works excellently well in reels. An 8 oz can of the stuff is reasonably priced at many NAPA stores and will last almost a lifetime. Don't lube a drag with anything other than a drag grease like Cal's or Shimano. They are based on thick/sticky cosmoline grease and that's what drags need to keep working properly. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted June 2, 2012 Super User Posted June 2, 2012 Shimano wont warranty their reels if they find remnants of hot sauce inside. For spinning reels and gearing I use Yamaha marine grease. Baitcasters get Reel-X oil. All drags get Cals Drag Grease. I emailed Shimano about this and this is the reply I received "It will not void the warranty but we do not suggest using their lubricants in our reels. We have seen some damage occur on certain reel models from their lubricants. We only suggest our lubricants that were designed to work with our products." I picked-up Rem Oil seems to work well Quote
unionman Posted June 2, 2012 Author Posted June 2, 2012 I emailed Shimano about this and this is the reply I received "It will not void the warranty but we do not suggest using their lubricants in our reels. We have seen some damage occur on certain reel models from their lubricants. We only suggest our lubricants that were designed to work with our products." I picked-up Rem Oil seems to work well This sounds like some BS. How would a lube damage a reel? If anything, it may attract dirt or something and gum up your reel but thats your fault for not cleaning it.( Not aimed at you quake, but Shimano) Sounds like a , DONT USE ANY "XYZ" PRODUCT BUT OURS! Its usually followed by, "Damage will occur" or "You risk poor performance"...blah blah Do you guys think when they say this that it has nothing to do with money? Quote
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