unionman Posted May 28, 2012 Posted May 28, 2012 I searched for a related topic and surprisingly didnt find one. Ive got three new baitcasters and I was looking for a good, long lasting lube. Quantum had some I looked at when I got my reel but it was rediculously expensive($20). Recommendations? Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted May 28, 2012 Super User Posted May 28, 2012 Take a look at TG's RocketFuel and Cal's drag grease. 1 Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted May 29, 2012 Super User Posted May 29, 2012 In the overall scheme of things reel lube/grease will be one of the cheapest products you will buy. Compared to fuel, line, baits, etc., twenty bucks ain't much, when you consider how many times you can use it to lube your reels. I'd stick with the brand of lube the reel maker recommends. Some like Hot Sauce, if memory serves, is not compatible with all reels. It can literally ruin internal parts of some brands from what I've read on this forum. You may pay more, but you won't go wrong using the products with the manufacturers name on them. 1 Quote
RyneB Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 iv used hot sauce, but once i switched all my reels over to Abus, i started using Reel Butter and i love it. Quote
Super User BASSclary Posted May 29, 2012 Super User Posted May 29, 2012 I use Ardents products in all my reels, and it's very nice in my opinion Quote
Michael DiNardo Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 I'd like to see JFrancho's and DVT's opinions on this topic. Mike Quote
Jaheff Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 Cal's original grease on gears and drags,cheap walmart marine grease in non spool bearings, and oust for spool bearings. Quote
Jake P Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 · Hidden by J Francho, May 29, 2012 - Not appropriate Hidden by J Francho, May 29, 2012 - Not appropriate Astroglide 1
unionman Posted May 29, 2012 Author Posted May 29, 2012 In the overall scheme of things reel lube/grease will be one of the cheapest products you will buy. Compared to fuel, line, baits, etc., twenty bucks ain't much, when you consider how many times you can use it to lube your reels. I'd stick with the brand of lube the reel maker recommends. Some like Hot Sauce, if memory serves, is not compatible with all reels. It can literally ruin internal parts of some brands from what I've read on this forum. You may pay more, but you won't go wrong using the products with the manufacturers name on them. Well put. Quote
Stasher1 Posted May 29, 2012 Posted May 29, 2012 · Hidden by J Francho, May 29, 2012 - Not appropriate Hidden by J Francho, May 29, 2012 - Not appropriate Astroglide Not reel-related, but I found KY liquid to be the best lubricant for putting window seals in my VW. It's water-soluable, non-staining, won't dissolve rubber, and it's as slippery as wet goose turds.
Super User .RM. Posted May 29, 2012 Super User Posted May 29, 2012 27 yrs reel servicing. We use our Lithium Gold Grease, have recently added Cals (depending on the regon the reel is in). Oil is our RM reel oil (same viscosity as Shimano's) ... FYI only use Quantum HS in Quantum reels!!! Tight Lines All! Quote
Super User LgMouthGambler Posted May 29, 2012 Super User Posted May 29, 2012 Ardent has a nice little kit that has grease, lube, cleaner, a brush, foam applicators, etc. I think its like $25. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted May 29, 2012 Super User Posted May 29, 2012 I don't have a solid, single answer. In a general sense, Cal's light grease (purple stuff) works well, so does Shimano Star Drag Grease, and Dave's gold grease holds up really well. For oil, Bantam oil is hard to beat. You really have to take into account how the reel is going to be used to develop the best lube strategy. Little things, like packing knob bearings in grease, or just oil make a big difference to some users. Quote
Super User SoFlaBassAddict Posted May 29, 2012 Super User Posted May 29, 2012 Shimano Grease Cal's light drag grease Shimano Oil The first two I've found work about the same. No noticeable difference to me. Both are great products. The Bantam oil has worked flawlessly for me for years. If I ever run out, I'll be buying more of it. I've tried Abu and Daiwa oil and found the Shimano stuff to work a little better IMO. Mind you, I've also got a stockpile of Shimano oil lying around that came with my reels.... Quote
TrippyJai Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 I use Shimano Star Drag Grease and Bantam Oil on my Shimano reels and they work fine. Have no had a problem for a couple seasons now. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 Lube brand is much less important than proper application combined with cleaning. Adding new lube on top of old can do more harm than good. Once everything is clean a marine grade grease will work and you may have some already. If you're going to buy, using Cal's drag grease on the gears as well as drag lets you keep one less product laying around. The Super Lube synthetic works well but is not suitable for drags. I would not recommend Hot Sauce grease for any reel. It gums up too much. The same applies to bearings. Flush them completely before relubing and use one of the quality lubes available. I like Yellow Rocket Fuel and currently use Boca Speed Oil if I want lighter vis. One small drop is all you need on a spool bearing so a tube of the Bantam oil will last a long time. Non-spool bearings can be packed with grease or oiled more heavily. I use a middle ground and give them a bath in 90w-140 gear lube. Quote
Dr. Watson Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 I haven't used the Hot Sauce grease, I probably won't ever now that I've read this; but for me, I use Ardent reel butter grease on my gears and drag (light coating), Hot Sauce bearing lube on my spool bearings, and then ardent reel butter bearing lube on the other bearings. To clean and degrease I use the Mil-com reel cleaner sold under the Bass Pro name. This system has worked awesome for me and keeps everything very smooth and clean. I have also used dry lube, like Remington dry teflon lube, for the worm gear; it seems to work very well, but it does need to be re applied after a few outings as it does get washed out a little. I mainly like to use the reel butter grease on my worm gear (light coat) Quote
0119 Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 Shimano wont warranty their reels if they find remnants of hot sauce inside. For spinning reels and gearing I use Yamaha marine grease. Baitcasters get Reel-X oil. All drags get Cals Drag Grease. Quote
unionman Posted May 31, 2012 Author Posted May 31, 2012 Lube brand is much less important than proper application combined with cleaning. Adding new lube on top of old can do more harm than good. Once everything is clean a marine grade grease will work and you may have some already. If you're going to buy, using Cal's drag grease on the gears as well as drag lets you keep one less product laying around. The Super Lube synthetic works well but is not suitable for drags. I would not recommend Hot Sauce grease for any reel. It gums up too much. The same applies to bearings. Flush them completely before relubing and use one of the quality lubes available. I like Yellow Rocket Fuel and currently use Boca Speed Oil if I want lighter vis. One small drop is all you need on a spool bearing so a tube of the Bantam oil will last a long time. Non-spool bearings can be packed with grease or oiled more heavily. I use a middle ground and give them a bath in 90w-140 gear lube. I am new to baitcasting and have been trying to find videos on "greasing" a reel. There are plenty on cleaning and oiling, which I have done, but I want to know how to pack bearings and grease my gears and drag. I plan on getting Boca Bearing upgrades for both my Quantum TE's and my Smoke so I need to learn these things well. p.s. I tried quantum hot sauce and it worked great. It added distance to my cast and made my reel more quiet. I hope it doesnt get gummy like you said. It should be the perfect product for what they charge for it... Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 Shimano wont warranty their reels if they find remnants of hot sauce inside. For spinning reels and gearing I use Yamaha marine grease. Baitcasters get Reel-X oil. All drags get Cals Drag Grease. I don't know Shimano's policy on warrantees regarding lube, but if this their policy it is a total cop out and should be challenged if experienced. Some automakers tried this in the 80s and it didn't work out so well for them. I'm not a fan of the Hot sauce lubes. There are better choices but in all fairness they won't cause a self destruction. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 Some drags are designed to be run dry. If they are greased it must bebd one a drag specific grease by rubbing a film over the fiber washers. Gears are greased by applying a thin coat pressed into the teeth with something like a small craft brush. It's not necessary to pack the gear teeth. Most of the grease squeezes out and just makes a mess. To properly pack a bearing requires a special tool. Just to maintain your own I'd suggest just a heavy oil, for non-spool bearings this is. You'll need all 3 bearings for an upgrade to be effective. Quote
0119 Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 That was straight from Bantam, back when he had a page here. Miss those days Quote
unionman Posted May 31, 2012 Author Posted May 31, 2012 Some drags are designed to be run dry. If they are greased it must bebd one a drag specific grease by rubbing a film over the fiber washers. Gears are greased by applying a thin coat pressed into the teeth with something like a small craft brush. It's not necessary to pack the gear teeth. Most of the grease squeezes out and just makes a mess. To properly pack a bearing requires a special tool. Just to maintain your own I'd suggest just a heavy oil, for non-spool bearings this is. You'll need all 3 bearings for an upgrade to be effective. I went to Boca's site and they only have a 'two bearing upgrade' ,and an 'eight bearing upgrade'. I just want to upgrade the spool bearings on my Quantum Tour Edition. Which three do you mean and how do I find the exact size of the third bearing ,for ordering, if its not in the upgrade kit already? Quote
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