flippin and pitchin Posted December 20, 2009 Posted December 20, 2009 Has anyone used hollow core pencil lead as a drop shot weight ? Did you experience line twist ? It works for steelhead fishing. Should work for drop shots ? Quote
jacobhookem Posted December 20, 2009 Posted December 20, 2009 Never used it my self but i have a friend who seems to like it. Personally i use a normal drop shot style weight for instance bosstin lead free fishing weights makes a really good drop shot weight. Quote
flippin and pitchin Posted December 20, 2009 Author Posted December 20, 2009 Bosstin weights. man..at six bucks for four weights I'll go bankrupt. Thanks anyway Quote
Super User islandbass Posted December 20, 2009 Super User Posted December 20, 2009 Has anyone used hollow core pencil lead as a drop shot weight ? Did you experience line twist ? It works for steelhead fishing. Should work for drop shots ? Wow! This is exactly what I use. You'll get as much line twist as you would with a regular drop shot weight. In other words, I have used it without any problems. I started doing this because it was starting to get too costly for "real" drop shot weights. $3 for about 10 weights and I could get a pound of pencil lead for about the same price. There is no rocket science necessary to do the math. If line twist is a real issue for you, you can employ my solution... Finally, we have good reason to use a snap swivel! 1) Tie your hook to your line as you normally would. 2) Tie on the snap swivel to the end of your line. Since you mention steelhead fishing, I am going to assume that you have the pliers that flatten pencil lead thin enough to punch a hole in them with those same special pliers. 3) Cut your piece of pencil lead, flatten one end, and pole a hole through the flattened area. 4) Attach the lead to the snap and you're done. The greatest benefit I have learned using pencil lead is that I can adjust my weight to suit the conditions. I also place the hole close to the end so that I can "break off" the lead with a decent tug. Because I fish rip rap most of the time I drop shot, I usually get snagged and lose the lead well before line twist ever has a chance to be an issue. I also allow the line to "rest" after a few casts to relieve any twist too. I do not go out of my way to use a snap swivel. I tie direct for the reasons given. Pencil lead works great. Just get the right pliers. A local shop selling steelhead stuff should have those pliers and they can vary in price from about $7 to just under $20. Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted December 21, 2009 Super User Posted December 21, 2009 Lunker and Mojo make these ds weights, they have a swivel built in..just run the line through the eyelet and tug...done...makes life easy when ds'n.. Quote
NBR Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 I just use split shot. The bottom one is not squeezed to tight and those above with even an even lighter crimp. Works well for me. Quote
Tucson Posted December 21, 2009 Posted December 21, 2009 I just use split shot. The bottom one is not squeezed to tight and those above with even an even lighter crimp. Works well for me. My method too. I tie a figure 8 knot at the end of the line to keep it a little more secure. Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted December 23, 2009 Super User Posted December 23, 2009 I messed around with drop shot fishing quite a bit last season. Mixed results. I had better results going heavier - 20 lb fluorocarbon & half ounce weights, flippin stick compared to a lighter rig with 6 or 8 lb fluorocarbon and 3/16 or 1/4 ounce weights. I'm looking for 3/4 or 1 ounce drop shot weights. I want to get a bulky, floppy plastic bait 12 to 20 feet down RIGHT NOW, rather than waiting for a lighter weight to hit the bottom. I had better luck with the longer dropshot weights compared to the round or oval ones. This is America. Somebody, somewhere is making what I want. I'm pretty sure I'll find it by next season or else I'll rig something. Quote
BassnMan Mike Posted December 23, 2009 Posted December 23, 2009 Just like others I have tried the expensive drop shot weights as well as other setups but over time I've gone back to a trick Dick Trask turned me onto back in 2000. Tie your hook as normal leaving your desired tag end length then take a mojo pencil weight, slide it onto your line, take a pair of pliers and squeeze it shut in the middle of the weight. This will allow you to pull it free if it gets stuck in a rock. It seemed like this setup didnt get hung up as bad as other weight systems. Fast forward to about 2-3 years back, I saw someone on TV, I dont remember who, using the same setup only he bent the weight to almost an "L" and said it was even less prone to hang up. I tried it and sure enough it works. It also seems to come through the water straighter with even less line twist. Quote
Super User skunked_again Posted December 24, 2009 Super User Posted December 24, 2009 I just use split shot. The bottom one is not squeezed to tight and those above with even an even lighter crimp. Works well for me. same here. Quote
Super User Munkin Posted December 25, 2009 Super User Posted December 25, 2009 I like using the brass eye sinkers from Wal-Mart myself. Allen Quote
flippin and pitchin Posted December 25, 2009 Author Posted December 25, 2009 That show was with Hank Parker. I saw that segment as well. Okay, rolled pencil lead it is boys. I 'll run it with and without a barrel swivel and let you know. You can use brass eye ball sinkers at 1 ounce or more for that heavy stuff. That's what I use for sea bass and Lings at Neah Bay (WA). Thanks all. Quote
Super User Jig Man Posted December 25, 2009 Super User Posted December 25, 2009 I use the Bakudan drop shot weights. 5/8 oz is the largest cavity in my mold. I normally use 1/8 and 1/4 oz the way I fish it. Quote
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