Super User clayton86 Posted February 27, 2013 Super User Posted February 27, 2013 A 9 year old Jack Russle Terrior and a 5 year old Belgian Malinois. Both females. Will post pics soon Iv always loved Belgian Malinois Quote
Super User Hi Salenity Posted February 27, 2013 Super User Posted February 27, 2013 This is Lucy, she is a female Boxer that was born on Christmas day. The day we brought her home. Her first snowstorm 4 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted February 27, 2013 Super User Posted February 27, 2013 Here's a few shots of the other members of our pack as well as thier humble living arrangements.  A-Jay  Diesel  Teddy Rescued in Nov 2012  Roxi - A Dutch Shepherd - she "the House Dog" Rescued in May 2012  2 Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted February 27, 2013 Super User Posted February 27, 2013 Here's a few shots of the other members of our pack as well as thier humble living arrangements.  A-Jay  Diesel.jpg Diesel  Teddy Jan 2013.jpg Teddy Rescued in Nov 2012  Roxi May 26, 2012.jpg Roxi - A Dutch Shepherd - she "the House Dog" Rescued in May 2012  Kennel sign.jpg Kennel Outside view Feb 13.jpg    Love the big dog house plaque Quote
Busy Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 My English Setter is nearing 14 years old and has been deaf for several years but he does really well with keeping an eye on you and taking hand signals. He can only hunt for a few hours at a time now so I bought a field bred Irish Setter recently. I have been working him without birds some and he is coming along ok. He has a lot of Brophy blood in him (although he is not a Brophy dog), including two very reputable dogs in Brophy's Absolute Power and Brophy's Center Fielder, both Registry of Merit Sires. Hopefully he will turn out ok. I am getting anxious to let him on a bird in April when he will be trying to pass his first Junior Hunting Test. That will be when he gets on his first bird and I cannot wait! His name is Reilly and he was born on 9/11/2012.  Here is a picture from a few days ago: Quote
Hanover_Yakker Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Not trying to be critical here, but I think you mean Irish Setter like these  As an avid professional dog breeder of sporting dogs, it is a passion of mine to know the different breeds in my group.  For those interested, the other setters in the AKC Sporting Group are:  English Setters look like this....  Gordon Setters are black and tan (the largest of the setter family)  Irish Red and White Setters are the rarest of them all and are relatively new to the AKC.  Another uncommon setter is the Llewellin Setter which is actually a specific strain of the English Setter from which the majority of the English Setter breeding stock present today originated from hence why they are almost identical in appearance. Quote
Busy Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 Not pictured is my English Setter. Yes the picture is of my Irish Setter pup. I think that's what I wrote. I'd really like to have an Irish Red & White Setter some day but yes they are hard to find and very expensive. I really like the Setters for upland birds. Nothing like that tail sticking straight up on point! Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted March 6, 2013 Super User Posted March 6, 2013 Alaskan Malamutes -  It's just what they do . . . .  A-Jay    1 Quote
Super User Tuckahoe Joe Posted March 6, 2013 Super User Posted March 6, 2013 Alaskan Malamutes -  It's just what they do . . . .  A-Jay  Mar 5th, 2013 AJ Tucker & Fenway mushing the 45th.jpg Ha! I love their little booties! Ive put a harness on my aussie and let him pull me around on my rollerblades before. 1 Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted March 6, 2013 Super User Posted March 6, 2013 Ha! I love their little booties! Ive put a harness on my aussie and let him pull me around on my rollerblades before.   Joe, you're a brave one and your Aussie must clearly be well trained. On roller-blades there is a little matter regarding stopping that would concern me. I bet you can get up quite a head of steam, especially on an extended decline.  The booties are a good deal for many reasons, especially if there is any salt on the road. The dogs want to lick it off and that causes all kinds of problems.  A-Jay  A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User Tuckahoe Joe Posted March 6, 2013 Super User Posted March 6, 2013  Joe, you're a brave one and your Aussie must clearly be well trained. On roller-blades there is a little matter regarding stopping that would concern me. I bet you can get up quite a head of steam, especially on an extended decline.  The booties are a good deal for many reasons, especially if there is any salt on the road. The dogs want to lick it off and that causes all kinds of problems.  A-Jay  A-Jay Thats why it was just the one time. Didn't really think about what I was getting into til he got going. Almost ran over a couple people and almost hit a few trees. Didn't wanna hold on but didn't wanna let go cuz there were lots of other people and dogs in the park. Not that he has a problem with other dogs but you never know how the other dog is gonna be. Sometimes he can get a little over-friendly and over playful and the other dogs don't always like that. 1 Quote
Hanover_Yakker Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 Not pictured is my English Setter. Yes the picture is of my Irish Setter pup. I think that's what I wrote. I'd really like to have an Irish Red & White Setter some day but yes they are hard to find and very expensive. I really like the Setters for upland birds. Nothing like that tail sticking straight up on point!  Gotcha - sporting dogs are just fun to watch in their element. Some of your traditionalists that breed pointers and setters only allow them to point or set the game. Most of them have a retriever of some sort to actually go and get any downed birds or rely upon themselves to get the downed bird. The cool thing about spaniels is that they are bred for upland game as well, but they are bred to quarter, find, flush, mark, and retrieve the birds on both land and water. When they quarter, they have an instinct that keeps them close, typically 30 yards away at most when they quarter from side to side. Basically a one stop shop dog when it comes to hunting.  I love to watch mine work.....  Check out the focus (prey drive) in his eyes......  Success....  And in water as well....   And the rewards.... 1 Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted March 6, 2013 Super User Posted March 6, 2013 I currently have two rescue mutts. One is a lab/golden retriever mix, I think and while he is at least 9 he still acts like a puppy. The other is a rottie/chow mix who is also about 8-9 and just a big old lap dog but he is slowing down for sure. I have owned dachshunds, shepherds and a bulldog in the past and my next dog will be a bully for sure. He was awesome and loved the water and going fishing with me. I would take him out wading and he would swim alongside me and hang out on the rocks. Quote
NEjitterbugger Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 I've got a St. Bernard and a half Great Pyrenees half Collie...  Ike (sb)  and Stella (mix)                Quote
NEjitterbugger Posted March 6, 2013 Posted March 6, 2013 The Saint Bernard isn't even 1 yet.... Quote
Super User MCS Posted March 6, 2013 Super User Posted March 6, 2013 I currently have two rescue mutts. One is a lab/golden retriever mix, I think and while he is at least 9 he still acts like a puppy. The other is a rottie/chow mix who is also about 8-9 and just a big old lap dog but he is slowing down for sure. I have owned dachshunds, shepherds and a bulldog in the past and my next dog will be a bully for sure. He was awesome and loved the water and going fishing with me. I would take him out wading and he would swim alongside me and hang out on the rocks. Â What kind of bulldog? I assume American bulldog of some type? Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted March 6, 2013 Super User Posted March 6, 2013 What kind of bulldog? I assume American bulldog of some type? Nope I want another purebred English bulldog. I found a breeder in nc that I will definitely use when I finally save the coin. Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted March 7, 2013 Super User Posted March 7, 2013 Not trying to be critical here, but I think you mean Irish Setter like these   As an avid professional dog breeder of sporting dogs, it is a passion of mine to know the different breeds in my group.  For those interested, the other setters in the AKC Sporting Group are:  English Setters look like this....   Gordon Setters are black and tan (the largest of the setter family) Irish Red and White Setters are the rarest of them all and are relatively new to the AKC.   Another uncommon setter is the Llewellin Setter which is actually a specific strain of the English Setter from which the majority of the English Setter breeding stock present today originated from hence why they are almost identical in appearance. Yak,  you have some very nice Welsh Springers, AKC reigns supreme when it comes to spaniels both working and companion dogs, when it comes to working pointers and Setters its the FDSB registry that most people look for. AKC does hold field trials and also has the JH, SH and MH categories, but it doesn't have the same standards either physically or in regards to field work. I'm not knocking you or the great work you are doing with a rare breed, but I think that Busy has field dogs and looking at his Irish Setter it's definitely field type, the FDSB may be its registry and it may be registered as a red setter, I'm thinking from the bloodline it is. Anyway there are some differences between the AKC and FDSB dogs. Many times FDSB dogs look so different from the AKC breed standard that you wouldn't recognize it as its AKC counterpart. When it comes to English Setters only AKC Setters look like the ones you posted, there is a vast difference between AKC and FDSB. And AKC English Setter is between 50-65 lbs, in FDSB 35-50 lbs, Gordons 50-70lbs FDSB 35-50 lbs. When pointing most AKC dogs point with a horizontal tail, FDSB dogs are 12 o'clock tails, a straight horizontal tail is almost considered a fault. I'm not defending this, it is just the way it is. Within the FDSB certain blood lines of dogs are highly prized and sought after, Ryman English Setter, Smith English Setter, Springset Gordon Setter, Elhew Pointer, Damascus Pointer, Hemlock English Setter, etc.The LLewellin a subset of the English has to be proven through DNA testing before it can be registered as such with FDSB. I'm posting some thumbnails to show the difference between AKC Setters and FDSB Setters as well as Pointer.  If you look at the pictures you notice the AKC Setter and FDSB setter are vastly different, the AKC is heavier and has a heavier coat with alot of feathering, the FDSB pic is untouched and the dog isn't shaved, the head is shaped different and the ears are set higher. The pointer has a totally different head and ear set as well, additionally the tail sets higher, the same with the Gordon. AKC people really frown FDSB because the physical standards are so vastly different, sometimes to the point of looking like a different breed altogether. FDSB dogs are bred for performance only, most trials are held on horseback and the dogs may cast up to 500 yds away from the hunter. Speed and nose are the only thing some people care about. I think there should be a balance. Quote
Super User MCS Posted March 7, 2013 Super User Posted March 7, 2013 Nope I want another purebred English bulldog. I found a breeder in nc that I will definitely use when I finally save the coin. Really. That is cool there are a few well bred ones out there and you are right they are some coin lol I had a Johnson type American bulldog. All the bull breeds are favorites of mine. My wife especially loves the English but they are out of reach for now. Quote
Hanover_Yakker Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 I most likely misread his original post, but I agree with you on the different types, but the beauty of the Welsh Springer Spaniel is that there is no distinction between field or conformation. The same breed standard applies around the world for our breed. As for your comments on hunt tests, I am well versed on those. I have marshalled, been a steward and am certified as a bird planter. In addition, the dog you see in the photos is my own and he is not only a WDX (working Dog Excellent), JH (Junior Hunter), and has two legs towards his Senior Hunter, but he is also an obedience champion, a Versatility Champion, a confirmation Champion, a Grand Champion, as well as an International, and National Champion and has won several Sporting Groups, Best In Shows and Reserve Best in Shows. I am well aware that many breeds like setters, pointers and even some of the spaniels (namely English Springer, English and American Cockers) have differences between breed standards for their field or trial dogs and their confirmation dogs. Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted March 7, 2013 Super User Posted March 7, 2013 I most likely misread his original post, but I agree with you on the different types, but the beauty of the Welsh Springer Spaniel is that there is no distinction between field or conformation. The same breed standard applies around the world for our breed. As for your comments on hunt tests, I am well versed on those. I have marshalled, been a steward and am certified as a bird planter. In addition, the dog you see in the photos is my own and he is not only a WDX (working Dog Excellent), JH (Junior Hunter), and has two legs towards his Senior Hunter, but he is also an obedience champion, a Versatility Champion, a confirmation Champion, a Grand Champion, as well as an International, and National Champion and has won several Sporting Groups, Best In Shows and Reserve Best in Shows. I am well aware that many breeds like setters, pointers and even some of the spaniels (namely English Springer, English and American Cockers) have differences between breed standards for their field or trial dogs and their confirmation dogs.  Your Welsh Springer is a great looking dog and very accomplished. How do u find time to fish? When I was training it was all consuming. It is a testament to your breeding program and commitment level that your dog has earned that many titles. There are undoubtably untold hours of training, hard work, and sacrafice that people who don't devote the time you have, are clueless to level of commitment you possess. Awesome  Congrats       Quote
Hanover_Yakker Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 Appreciate it - yeah it does take a lot of time, but fishing and volunteering with Heroes On the Water are my priorities outside of family, coaching my son's baseball team and work. Although I have to admit, and the setter owner can chime in on this one as well, when you have a dog that has that "it" factor where they just get it, its natural for them. It makes the training relatively easy.  Let's hope that others will share their lovely four-legged family members and keep this thread going!!! Quote
Busy Posted March 7, 2013 Posted March 7, 2013 The events are all new to me and without a horse I will only be doing Hunting Tests with my Irish Setter. I am a walking hunter and believe that this will be my best and cheapest way to get him on birds in the off-season.  Hanover Yakker - You have a great looking and well accomplished dog! I am not a traditionalist. My tastes do not prefer a flushing dog and I will make my Irish Setter steady to flush and, hopefully, wing but I will not try to get him to be steady to shot. For this reason I will probably never attempt the Master Hunter tests. He is showing a good instinct to retrieve and I encourage this by playing a lot of fetch with him. The command I use is "fetch" and I am not releasing him until whatever I throw hits the ground. I'm sure he will break early in the field but this should help him be steady to wing I am thinking. I will be more than happy if my setter picks birds up for me! Oddly, I've had two black labs and a yellow lab and none of them ever took to fetch like this dog has so I have high hopes that he will grab my birds. The "it" factor is many things. I think the easiest dog to train is a loyal dog. It is really fun when they click in the field and then everything makes sense to them but I think the main thing is having a dog that just flat wants to please you. I will likely get some odd looks at the Junior Hunting test because if I go two days, he may well be on a cord the second day! I'm more interested in working him in some birds than I am about passing the test. I'm by no means a trainer so I may have to PM you when it comes time to "whoa"!  Retiredbosn - My dog is not registered in the FDSB, although his parents may well be. I think you can be registered in both and that if you meet the AKC reqs. you meet the FDSB reqs. due to the AKC being more stringent but I may be wrong on this. My Irish Setter is registered as an Irish Setter with the AKC although he is definitely field bred. He would likely be worthless in a comformation competition. I am not really concerned with field trials or dual championships lol. Just want the birds. I agree the differences in field bred and show bred dogs are striking! I sure hope mine points with a high tail! He is gaining confidence and going further out which I think is good but I certainly don't want him casting 500 yards! He can do whatever he wants in the mean-time so long as he comes, sits, and fetches and it'll be easier in the future to reign him in than teach him run big. The big-running dogs are fun to watch but I've seen some that can't hold a bird too well which is pretty useless if it takes you 20 minutes to catch up with him lol. 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 7, 2013 Super User Posted March 7, 2013 Nope I want another purebred English bulldog. I found a breeder in nc that I will definitely use when I finally save the coin.  Here's my old dog. My ex took her when she left. She plans on producing a second litter. Her grandfather was Calvin Klien, look him up, world champion in 2003. I'll let you know if she's got puppies if you want.  1 Quote
Super User retiredbosn Posted March 7, 2013 Super User Posted March 7, 2013 Busy, I have trained English springers and English setters, pointers, German shorthairs, and wirehairs i've officiated field trials (all walking), planted birds, judged etc. FWIW from my experience spaniels are the easiest to train, then setters, pointers are a little harder. Force breaking to retrieve is not fun but can be done. There are trials for walking Hunters, the national shoot to retrieve comes to mind, but AKC had them as well. Good luck with your setter, I need to find some old pictures and post them. 2 Quote
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