(='_'=) Posted June 17, 2012 Author Posted June 17, 2012 hey bigbarge, thanx!! as you see, we dont really know what we are doing, neither of us has done it before... but thanx to forums like this one, we have been asking a lot of questions, doing research, and then doing as best as we can... when i began this thread i wasnt sure if it was going to be a "how to do it" or a "how not to do it"... i figured out it could be usefull for someone, so, here it is.... hope we can be of some help!! and Robert, thats right... we could have paid for someone to do it, but im sure we wouldnt enjoy the boat as much, even if the final result was better than ours... we have always been of the idea that what we have to learn how to do, we learn by doing it... thank you for your comments!! Quote
(='_'=) Posted June 17, 2012 Author Posted June 17, 2012 so, here are some pics of the painting proces.... after we primered the first time, we saw a lot of new dents... so we used some kind of putty to cover them... this putty is like bondo, but much thinner, so it covers smaller dents better.... after we finished applyng the putty, we sanded everything with 400 sandpaper... this left a smooth surface... then we applied another coat of primer, thicker than the first one... after this, we sanded everything again, but now with 1000 sandpaper.... this left a REALLY smooth surface.... of course, after each sanding, we had to wash the boat... so basically yesterday we washed the boat like 4 times.... anyways, enough with the talking, here s a pic of the second layer of primer: and here are some of the first paint application: here are some of the before and after of appling the flakes: before: after: a little flake will go a long way... we bought $20 worth of metal flake, and it was maybe less than 2 tablespoons.... the seller considered it was enough.... we didnt even used all of it, we left some for when we paint the motor, and here is how it looks: so, we have maybe $120 USD in materials.... and a lot of labor, most of it done by ourselves, however, a couple of days we had to "hire" some friends, fortunately they charged in beer..... yesterday we also got the material to recarpet the seats... this work will be done by my grandmother and my GF, so again, free labor..... i dont have pics of the cloth yet, but we choosed 2 different gray shades for the textil, and 1 darker gray for the vinyl.... as soon as i have one seat, i will post the before and after..... Quote
(='_'=) Posted June 17, 2012 Author Posted June 17, 2012 the flake is mixed with the clear, and then applied to the base paint.... after that we applied another layer of clear coat.... we will put a second layer of clear coat later, when we are ready to paint the motor.... another thing i forgot to add: the darker color gets really hot... today i touched the bow, which had been on the sun all morning, and it was hot, almost too hot to touch... hopefully this wont be a problem, i have seen pics of some dark boats before so i think this wont be an issue... the boat will always be covered anyways, exept while in use.... also, you may have heard that on a paint job, "PREPARATION IS EVERYTHING"... i cannot emphasize this enough... after we applied the putty, we thought most of the dents were covered.... with the next coat of primer, we discovered some more of them, but we considered they werent enough to justify appling putty and sanding and primering again... mistakenly we though the paint would cover them.... IT DOESNT.... we dont really care much about it, since we removed maybe 90% of the dents, including all the big ones.. but there are a lot of really small dents that are noticeable, specially if seen with the proper angle and light.... so, if you want a perfect job, you have to be very patient, and remember once again, PREPARATION IS EVERYTHING.... anyways we are really happy with the end product, but if we had taken more time (which we dont have, fishing season is in 10 days) to prepare the boat, we would have had a perfect looking boat.... Quote
Traveler2586 Posted June 18, 2012 Posted June 18, 2012 Really good pic's. Is that "Carnival flake" it looks good. Can you smooth out the smaller dimples by sanding the clear coat? Don't rush, this boat is going to last you for years; the start of fishing season may be raining or something else may stop you from going. So take you time and do what you need to do. Bottom line - great job so far. P.S. Can I have that drop cloth in the background when your done with it?????? Quote
(='_'=) Posted June 18, 2012 Author Posted June 18, 2012 thanx Traveler!! the thing is that the flaws are not dimples, but nicks, dents, or depressions that would need to be filled with putty or bondo.... and yes, ill store the cloth for you haha Quote
(='_'=) Posted June 18, 2012 Author Posted June 18, 2012 now, what do you propose for the bottom part?? as you can see on the first pics, the boat has some defined protruding edges, which limits what we can do as far as wraps... today we are going to remove one of the bunks, to take better pics of the entire boat and see what we could do, we are not sure if we should wrap it, or paint it.... i would prefer wraps, but we dont know what to put in them... Quote
Traveler2586 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 now, what do you propose for the bottom part?? as you can see on the first pics, the boat has some defined protruding edges, which limits what we can do as far as wraps... today we are going to remove one of the bunks, to take better pics of the entire boat and see what we could do, we are not sure if we should wrap it, or paint it.... i would prefer wraps, but we don't know what to put in them... I would keep it simple, just a solid color - white, cream, or something like that. It's likely to get scratched if you fish close into submerged wood, rocks, or old docks. You'll want something easy to maintain. Some may tell you to use a dark color on the under side of the hull so when the fish look up all they see is a dark shadow, I don't know if that really works or not. Quote
(='_'=) Posted June 19, 2012 Author Posted June 19, 2012 well, by "the bottom part" i meant the part that is not painted.... so actually it would be "the outside"... i think we are going to paint the part marked in red, and wrap the rest.... this part we would paint with the same color we used for the inside.... also the keel would be painted with the same color.... the bottom of the boat, what you cant see unless you lay on the floor, maybe we will leave as it is.... here is the pic of the boat as it is: one of the front to view the bends of the boat.... so what would you do?? i have a full color wrap work for free, but i dont know what to put on the wrap.... Quote
Tattoo25 Posted June 23, 2012 Posted June 23, 2012 Ive got a boat almost exactly like that one. I love that thing. I did a lot of work on mine also. Found it in the woods. It had been laying there for 12 years. I got mine looking nice but i didnt have the time to do all the stuff you did to it. Quote
(='_'=) Posted June 23, 2012 Author Posted June 23, 2012 we dont have the time either!! haha, we have to create the time... i work from 7 am to 6 pm, so we have been working from 6 to 10 pm, and on weekends... it is hard, but worth every minute!! Quote
(='_'=) Posted June 24, 2012 Author Posted June 24, 2012 more progress was done this weekend.... i began working on the deck extension, finally.... since we use this boat for both fishing and skiing, i was wondering how to create a rod locker, and deck extension, and yet keeping the boat able to carry more than 2 persons... so today, after some thinking, and moving the cooler and 2 tackle bags around for a while, we came up with the solution.... we are going to create a rod holder on the left side.... then, on the center, we are going to put the 2 tackle bags... this will leave a small space on the right side, where we are going to keep our burritos =) all these will be permanent... and, we will make the space between the rod locker and the console and livewell, just big enough to fit an ice chest... since we can also step on the chest, and it is the same height as the deck, the chest will be part of the deck.... when we go fishing, we will put the ice chest there, since we jump on the boat in the morning and generally get down until dark... and, for skiing, we will remove the ice chest, and the rod locker will work as a bench, while the livewells will work as ice chests.... what do you think?? nothing is written in stone yet, we can change the design if you have a better idea... here is a small diagram of the deck... i would like to do it in Sketchup at least, but my brother is out of town with my laptop so im using the one from work, and i dont want to download the program in this one.... so this will have to do for now.... anyways i plan on building this tomorrow, i will take pics of the progress.... Quote
Addicted to Smallies Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 I have nothing in terms of knowledge to share, but I just wanted to add how great this thread is. X2. I don't think I can help with your questions since I haven't done this myself, but I love this thread. If I had the space (and the time) I would definitely do a restoration like this myself. Love following your progress on this thread and just wanted to say "great job" and "I'm jealous." :-) Quote
(='_'=) Posted June 24, 2012 Author Posted June 24, 2012 thanx addicted!!! and it doesnt matter if you havent done this yourself ( neither do i hahaha)... im sure everybody here has more experience than me regarding bassboats (besides mine i have never been on another one in person), so i appreciate all your input!! Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted June 25, 2012 Super User Posted June 25, 2012 Really nice progress so far, it's looking really cool !!! As for the wrap, I would suggest loud colors since you went with a dark color base to make the boat pop out. As for graphics, it all depends on personal preference, like, do you like flames etc...and apply those to your wrap. At the keel you can do a bat wing, leaving the bottom white and bring the dark color down as far as you can and pin stripe it with like a neon green or something, like this, That way you won't have to paint anything under the boat. Quote
(='_'=) Posted June 25, 2012 Author Posted June 25, 2012 thanx!! thats more or less what we had thought about in the first place, but, wont the wrap tear down on the first outing?? here in mexico we dont have boat docks and many lakes dont even have ramps, we have to load/unload on a shallow shore, so the boats take a lot of abuse... thats why we decided against wraps, we thought they wouldnt last long... Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted June 25, 2012 Super User Posted June 25, 2012 I may have missed something here, are you wraping the sides or painting the sides? Quote
(='_'=) Posted June 25, 2012 Author Posted June 25, 2012 i am wanting to paint the part marked in red, as well as the keel: and wrap the rest... Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted June 25, 2012 Super User Posted June 25, 2012 Maybe this will give you a little better idea of what I was after. Quote
(='_'=) Posted June 25, 2012 Author Posted June 25, 2012 Really nice progress so far, it's looking really cool !!! As for the wrap, I would suggest loud colors since you went with a dark color base to make the boat pop out. As for graphics, it all depends on personal preference, like, do you like flames etc...and apply those to your wrap. At the keel you can do a bat wing, leaving the bottom white and bring the dark color down as far as you can and pin stripe it with like a neon green or something, like this, That way you won't have to paint anything under the boat. here, did you mean paint the bat wing, or wrap the bat wing?? because at first i understood you were suggesting to wrap it, but now i think maybe you are saying to paint it?? Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted June 26, 2012 Super User Posted June 26, 2012 here, did you mean paint the bat wing, or wrap the bat wing?? because at first i understood you were suggesting to wrap it, but now i think maybe you are saying to paint it?? Yes, Paint the bat wing with the color you chose for the top, then pin stripe it in a neon green, the carnival flake will blend well with the vibrant or loud color of neon, either red, green, or blue neon will work for the pin stripe. Once you choose your wrap, if you choose to do so, you can also seperate the wrap into sections and allow room for a pin stripe or two to continue down the complete side of the boat, ending them at the rear. Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted June 26, 2012 Super User Posted June 26, 2012 Sorry, all I have is a cheap paint shop on my lap top, but hopefully this will give you the general idea of what I am talking about. Quote
(='_'=) Posted June 26, 2012 Author Posted June 26, 2012 thanx!! i like that neon green... however, i already have the material to upholster the seats, i have 3 different shades of gray, and the carpet will also be gray... would the green look good if there is no green inside the boat?? Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted June 26, 2012 Super User Posted June 26, 2012 It does not need to be on the inside at all but it would be better to stay with one theme, so you can still paint the bat wing if you wanted to and pin stripe it with a real light gray color Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted June 26, 2012 Super User Posted June 26, 2012 The most important part of this whole layout is the Burrito storage space! LOL NICE Jeff Quote
Shawn Dompierre Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Looking good ! Don't stop. I started tournament fishing with my buddys new tr177 and now I have no time for my own boat hahaha... Quote
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