Shawn Dompierre Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 I meant to build a box , your current locker seems like its the side that opens up, I like the idea of the new rod box being used as storage for rods and seating for friends . I'll draw something up. Quote
(='_'=) Posted May 18, 2012 Author Posted May 18, 2012 thanx Shawn... thats more or less what i have in mind... my only concern is that from the seat, to the beginning of the deck, i only have a little more than 6'... so, in order to accomodate a rod locker where you drew it, i need to cut into the current storage area under the deck... and thats no problem, i can cut, however im not sure if i would be able to fit a 7' rod in there, as i need to leave some leg room in front of the passengers side.... now, what i would really like, would be to permanently install the rod locker where you put it, and then make a removeable storage locker between the rod locker and the livewell/console and new storage... this way i would have a full deck for fishing, and a bench for friends... Quote
Traveler2586 Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 did you modify your post to include this part?? because i missed it yesterday.... Yes, you must have seen it while I was editing; some times I'll post something, read it a second time or so, and think it isn't clear or doesn't read well so I'll add to it. Quote
Shawn Dompierre Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 You can accommodate that , cut the existing storage and make the rod locker as long as you can with leaving just enough room for feet. Shawn.D Quote
(='_'=) Posted May 18, 2012 Author Posted May 18, 2012 thanx Traveler, i do that also to clarify or correct spelling... and Shawn, ill check how much space is there in the existing storage... im worried i will not be able to fit a 7' rod, as the floor space right now is only about 6'6" long from the seat, so if i give say, 1 foot for leg room, and the storage is also 1 foot, there is no way i will have a 7' rod locker in there =S Quote
Traveler2586 Posted May 18, 2012 Posted May 18, 2012 Dan, the lid to the rod locker does not need to be seven feet long. The lid to my rod locker is only 46" long, I have a Ranger 185; inside on the forward wall of the locker are tube ports, I think mine are three tubes wide by three row for a total of nine ports. These tube ports are flexible, smooth, thin walled, PVC tubing like you see being buried along the roadways for fiber-optic cables. The idea is the separation of the tubes in the locker wall is even to afford easy access, but the tubing bends to converge at the bow of the boat with some tubes being a little shorter than others. The tubing is under the decking where you don't see it. I'll try to get a pic tomorrow for you. Cheers, E Quote
(='_'=) Posted May 19, 2012 Author Posted May 19, 2012 thanx traveler!! i understand what you are saying. i think i didnt explain well. the lid doesnt needs to be 7 feet long, i know that. however, the storage space needs to be 7' long. in order to accomplish this, i would need to cut into the storage compartment AND into the flotation chamber. heres a rough diagram of something i just measured tonight... the blue rectangle is what i would like to have, serving as a rod locker/ bench... for this, i would have to cut holes (yellow circles) in the storage wall, for the rod tips to go in... i was thinking on putting PVC or some other tubes to protect the rods.... however, in order to leave some leg room, the rod storage compartment was only about 5'5" long, so the PVC pipes needed to be about 1'1" long, entering the flotation chamber.... the red rectangle is approximately 7' long, and as you see, it reaches the end (front) of the boat.... so, tonigh, one of my fishing parters and i were sitting on the boat, having a beer and thinking on what to do.... we noticed that the front livewell is about 2 inches higher than the front deck... so, we thought the following... what if we raise the front deck to be the same height as the livewell, and use those 2" of space between the current deck and the new deck, as the extension of the rod locker... in other words, the "rod locker" would be really thin, only 2" high, but wide enough to accomodate about 7 rods parallel to each other... and, under the rods, we would have enough space to store other things such as skis, rope, backpacks etc... basically the rod locker would be as the red rectangle shown above, and on top of the existing deck... we also thought about making it fixed, and also fixing another storage compartment between the livewell and the deck... this would leave an "alley" from the console to the deck... for this, we would make a removeable storage space, that we can put to fish, making the front deck almost flush with the rear of the console, and remove it for skiing/hanging around, leaving the rod locker as a bench.... hopefully this is somehow understandable... i have to make some drawings to clarify it, im already making a really rough sketch on google sketchup to explain better... if you could understand my ramble, what do you think?? Quote
Traveler2586 Posted May 19, 2012 Posted May 19, 2012 .........................we would make a removable storage space, that we can put to fish, making the front deck almost flush with the rear of the console, and remove it for skiing/hanging around, leaving the rod locker as a bench.... That's an interesting concept, a modular configuration to fit the need at the time. Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted May 19, 2012 Super User Posted May 19, 2012 It would be really hard to brace the deck enough so that it wouldn't flex and break rod tips, while walking o the deck and rods in lockers. do you want to put rods in boat to leave them or plan on taking ods out every trip. if the later is the case, my buddy just uses rod straps and straps them to the deck, as you would after arriving at lake. hey do not move going down the road, and you eliminate the need for a locker. i will take a picture tomorrow of his setup, to help you understand! PS.. with all of these pictures you are posting, I will quote traveler here, "your over 5lb PB" is still missing! Jeff Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted May 21, 2012 Super User Posted May 21, 2012 On the way out this morning..... A little cramped but it gets the job done! Jeff Quote
(='_'=) Posted May 21, 2012 Author Posted May 21, 2012 It would be really hard to brace the deck enough so that it wouldn't flex and break rod tips, while walking o the deck and rods in lockers. do you want to put rods in boat to leave them or plan on taking ods out every trip. if the later is the case, my buddy just uses rod straps and straps them to the deck, as you would after arriving at lake. hey do not move going down the road, and you eliminate the need for a locker. i will take a picture tomorrow of his setup, to help you understand! PS.. with all of these pictures you are posting, I will quote traveler here, "your over 5lb PB" is still missing! Jeff i had been thinking the same, it would be hard to protect them.. this is what i have come up with so far, a 2" x 1 1/2" wood block, with slots for the rods.. im thinking on using one on the end of the exsting deck (where this one is drawn) and another block further ahead... i could even join the slots with a pvc pipe, to guide the rods and prevent them from lifting or something.... besides this, i would use the same 2 X 1 1/2" to do a full perimeter... i am planning on removing the rods and put them in every trip... however, since its a small boat, i would prefer not to have them all on the deck... while fishing, i just have 2 rods on the deck, and the rest of them on the locker, ready to go, with lures tied and everything, but inside the locker, since it gets too clustered with an ice chest, tackle bags, net, oar.... hopefully with this new storage space the deck wont be as clustered, but still, i dont like having too many rods out there, risking braking one or something... when i fish by myself (which i rarely do) i can have more rods in the deck, since i can be careful with them and place them where they dont get in MY way.... but 99% of the time we are at least 2 in the boat.... and regarding the PB, ill try to post a couple of pics from a skiing trip we made.... Quote
Ima Bass Ninja Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 Have you thought about using vertical rod holders? seems the issue is space and vertical ones would eliminate that. You could just bolt them right to the console and have that rod holder space for something else. something like this: Quote
(='_'=) Posted May 21, 2012 Author Posted May 21, 2012 thanx for the pic. we had thought about those, but, wont they get in the way while fishing?? probably for transportation it wouldnt be a problem, as i can put the rods in a PVC pipe, close both ends, and put it in the boat.... but, for fishing, i think they may be getting in the way, specially with 3 people on board.... Quote
Ima Bass Ninja Posted May 21, 2012 Posted May 21, 2012 thanx for the pic. we had thought about those, but, wont they get in the way while fishing?? probably for transportation it wouldnt be a problem, as i can put the rods in a PVC pipe, close both ends, and put it in the boat.... but, for fishing, i think they may be getting in the way, specially with 3 people on board.... It really depnds on how much distance you have between the decks and console and the position in which you cast.. Cant really tell by the pics. The best way to tell is to mount some with double sided tape or something and stand on the decks to see what fishing would be like with them in place. If its a problem then you can simply remove them or it they work you can bolt them in place. Quote
(='_'=) Posted May 21, 2012 Author Posted May 21, 2012 thanx, i guess i will have to do the test and see if it is an option or not... Quote
Shawn Dompierre Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 Dan, I like your idea with the blocks. they'll protect the rods from the floor and you guys dancing on it all night Sorry I haven't been "around" I've been working on my own rig and trailer.. Took her out for the first time this year. it was sweet.. Quote
(='_'=) Posted May 22, 2012 Author Posted May 22, 2012 hey shawn!! what are you doing to your boat?? mine hasnt seen the water this year yet =( but hopefully it will be soon... here is a rough diagram i drew yesterday on sketchup... its very basic but gives the idea... first, the boat as it is right now... now, remember i mentioned a permanent storage area and a removeable one?? this is where the permanent storage would be.... you can see the bracing on the perimeter of the deck... this will be to raise the deck 2", making it flush with the front livewell, which right now is a bit higher.... the drawings are not complete, just to give a general idea.... between the deck and the livewell i plan on putting an ice chest, a friend suggets making it permanent, but i think i would rather just leave a space and insert my current ice chest there... what do you think?? yesterday i bought some cardboard to begin cutting the pieces and see if it will actually work and look as im thinking... another question came to my mind today... how do you fix the deck to the boat?? should i use a metal angle and screw one leg to the wood block and the other one to the floor of the boat?? or how do you do it?? thanx! this is how i plan on bracing the rod locker... i think it could be strong enough, using 2x2 for all the supports... Quote
(='_'=) Posted May 22, 2012 Author Posted May 22, 2012 i just suscribed to your thread to see the progress... i liked your console, i think i will try to cut mine like that... it would give more leg room and give it a nice look... do you think it would harm something if i cut it like this with a dremel?? Quote
Shawn Dompierre Posted May 22, 2012 Posted May 22, 2012 Your going to have to look at how its built. I looked at some of your pictures and I can't see the harm it would do. I would cut out whatever you feel is in the way and the measure a piece of plywood to match whats left ( be sure to measure accurately you want a tigth fit to support any weight.), clean the inside of the console and then add glue to the wood (PL GLUE) and press in.\ Done. Quote
(='_'=) Posted May 22, 2012 Author Posted May 22, 2012 i get it... i dont think it handles much weight, but ill check it and if we decide to cut, we will reinforce it on the inside with the wood as you mention.... Quote
(='_'=) Posted May 23, 2012 Author Posted May 23, 2012 yesterday i was feeling sick so i couldnt work much in the boat, i just sketched the lower frame and one of the storage spaces and the cooler place.... i have some big pieces of cardboard from which i will cut the templates today, and hopefully by the weekend i will begin building the frames... Quote
(='_'=) Posted May 23, 2012 Author Posted May 23, 2012 hey. i have one question regarding the fishing seats.... my boat had these ugly and tall pedestal mounts that can be seen here... when i removed the seats, the pedestals would always be there in the way.... so, i want to install recessed pedestal mounts, so when im not using the fishing seats, the decks will be flat.... i have seen some boats have these, where, without the seat, all you see is a hole in the carpet... thats what im looking for: but all i have been able to find is something like this, where, if you remove the seat, you still have the big stainless steel square..... do you know where to find it or how to do it?? im thinking about using the system i pictured with the big SS square, and just put the carpet on top of that, but i dont think thats the proper way of doing it.... Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted May 23, 2012 Super User Posted May 23, 2012 If you wish to do that all you need to do is take a plunge router and mark the area that you want the seat to be, remove 1/16 of an inch of material from the area and the face of the plate will be flush with the surface of the deck, some plates are thicker than that so you may have to shave a little more. There are a lot of web sites you can use to get those parts. Quote
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